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John Turco said:
Hello, Horst:

You definitely harbor some strange notions about Usenet, I see.
Despite belting out 40+ articles, since Wednesday (6-21-06) - which,
according to Google, is when your posting "career" began - it seems
you've failed to have any of them dispelled, yet.

This only goes to prove, once again, that quantity is hardly a fair
substitute for quality. :-P

And he's now crawled under the bed and is
presumably wimpering away under there now.

Today's kids, wota packa wimps |-)
 
Previously John Turco said:
Hello, Horst:
You definitely harbor some strange notions about Usenet, I see. Despite
belting out 40+ articles, since Wednesday (6-21-06) - which, according
to Google, is when your posting "career" began - it seems you've failed
to have any of them dispelled, yet.

I noticed a large gap between compenetnce and confidence there too.
This only goes to prove, once again, that quantity is hardly a fair
substitute for quality. :-P

Very true. And shouting "NO" or "YES" does not help either...

Arno
 
John Turco said:
<edit>

Hello, Stimpy/Folkert:

Recall, also, that even the "great" John Clarke, himself,

Maybe the Clarkes share the same ancestors afterall?
was apparently fooled by Rod Speed's "dew" alias, in the lengthy "Window is
stealing my HD" thread, recently!

You sure?
It was really quite entertaining, watching them exchange "pleasantries."

I think you have to point out exactly where.
Funnier, still, was how Rod played him like a percussion instrument. <g>

Funny how I remember it quite differently. That was the thread
where Rod made a rather spectecular fool out of himself.

Both couldn't get it right. I think it was a draw.

You a fan of Rod?
 
Arno Wagner said:
I noticed a large gap between compenetnce and confidence there too.
Very true. And shouting "NO" or "YES" does not help either...

Right, that is about as juvenile as:
"You can claim that all you like. It does not make it true."

Oh, who was it again who last said that?
Some Wagner guy, or what's his name.
 
Rod said:
You'd be amazed at how many say similar things to me in email.


Hello, Rod:

Do you mean your "sock puppets" have valid e-mail addresses, and some
people are gullible enough to respond to them? Or, are you saying that
they commend you for the public beatings you regularly administer to
self-styled know-it-alls, such as John Clarke?

Or, both? ;-)


Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>
 
Folkert said:
Maybe the Clarkes share the same ancestors afterall?

Hello, Folkert:

Are you implying something incestuous said:
You sure?

Of course! Would Google lie? :-)
I think you have to point out exactly where.

Google it said:
Funny how I remember it quite differently. That was the thread
where Rod made a rather spectecular fool out of himself.

Both couldn't get it right. I think it was a draw.

You missed my point, entirely. John Clarke had "plonked" Rod Speed,
years ago, but was unable to recognize one of Rod's thinly-disguised
"sock puppets" (i.e., "dew" <[email protected]>).

Therefore, in my opinion, John lost that battle, simply by allowing
himself to be drawn into it, to begin with.
You a fan of Rod?

<edit>

Why not? Rod and yourself give this newsgroup a unique (if rather
feisty) flavor...never a dull moment, around here! :-J


Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>
 
John Turco said:
Hello, Rod:

Do you mean your "sock puppets" have valid e-mail addresses, and some
people are gullible enough to respond to them? Or, are you saying that
they commend you for the public beatings you regularly administer to
self-styled know-it-alls, such as John Clarke?

Or, both? ;-)

The last, and quite a few of them just find it hilarious like you did too.
 
John Turco said:
Hello, Folkert:

Are you implying something incestuous, perhaps? <g>

No, not necessarily.
Of course! Would Google lie? :-)

AFAIK Google doesnt have an opinion.
Google it, yourself, man. <g>

No point in that when it concerns someones opinion on what happened.
And, for the most part, I found the conversation quite civil.
You missed my point, entirely.

Yes, indeed. Because there wasn't one, maybe?
John Clarke had "plonked" Rod Speed, years ago, but was unable to
recognize one of Rod's thinly-disguised "sock puppets" (i.e., "dew"
(e-mail address removed)).

Well, that's for John to say whether he did or did not or that he just
chose to respond to this Rod Speed this time.
Therefore, in my opinion, John lost that battle, simply by allowing
himself to be drawn into it, to begin with.

Well, that's nothing close to "Rod played him like a percussion instrument".

So, -in your expert opinion-, did John's

"Like you're mangling a lot of other things."

refer to just that thread alone or maybe even a lifetime of Rod Speed postings?
<edit>

Why not? Rod and yourself give this newsgroup a unique (if
rather feisty) flavor... never a dull moment, around here! :-J

Ok, so I'll take it then that you are *not* a fan of John. Just checking.
 
Folkert said:
Ok, so I'll take it then that you are *not* a fan of John. Just checking.

<edit>

Hello, Folkert:

I doubt that John Clarke has >any< "fans," outside of those cooling his
computer hardware. <g>

Seriously, Rod Speed's writing style is as distinctive as yours. Thus,
why couldn't John immediately spot "dew" as Rod, back in the "Window is
stealing my HD" thread?

The answer, I'd guess, is that John would never miss a chance to do what
he seems to enjoy the most -- namely, pontificating. He loves entering
sparring matches with those he deems lesser mortals, if only to show the
unfortunate individuals the alleged "errors" of their ways.

I, myself, once fell victim to his relentless crusade against Usenet's
ignorant masses. On September 2, 2004, in this very newsgroup
("Re: x235 RedHat 9 problem" thread), he directed these scathing words
toward me:

"Pot, kettle, black, <plonk>

Simple fact is you know about a tenth what you think you know and you
don't think you know much."

With that, I was evidently dumped into the black pit of John Clarke's
killfile. Though horribly scarred for eternity, I've managed to survive
and continue posting, regardless.


Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>


PS: Just a disclaimer, but this message is riddled with sarcasm. :-P
 
In news:[email protected] John Turco typed:
You definitely harbor some strange notions about Usenet, I see.

Sorry John, but I don't see any differences between US and worldwide!
Also Your news readers will supply past postings!?
Despite belting out 40+ articles, since Wednesday (6-21-06) - which,
according to Google, is when your posting "career" began - it seems
you've failed to have any of them dispelled, yet.

Do not understand this phrase. Might only be true for this NG.
But tellings and based facts are not yet known to You?
Horst
 
Previously Horst Franke said:
In news:[email protected] John Turco typed:
Sorry John, but I don't see any differences between US and worldwide!
Also Your news readers will supply past postings!?

A decent newstreader will give you the histry as tree you can
navigate. Try tin or trn, not that graphical trash that is so
"modern" now but sadly lacking in functionality.

It is normal and expected to start cutting thing that are more
than 2-3 postings back. Only those with broken newsreaders complain.
If you really cannot get a good newsreader, groups.google.com will
also give you the history of a posting.

Arno
 
Horst Franke said:
John Turco wrote

You're not supposed to capitalise You unless he is a god.
Sorry John, but I don't see any differences between US and worldwide!

You clearly need new glasses then.
Also Your news readers will supply past postings!?

Depends entirely on whether they ever made it to the news server.

AND when you are so late to comment on particular posts, quite a
few news servers would have aged off the original posts by now too.
Do not understand this phrase.

Which phrase ?
Might only be true for this NG.
Nope.

But tellings and based facts are not yet known to You?

Repeat in pure english.
 
Horst said:
In news:[email protected] John Turco typed:

Sorry John, but I don't see any differences between US and worldwide!

Hello, Horst:

"Usenet" is derived from "Users' Network," a distributed bulletin board
system, which began at Duke University (USA), in 1979.

You didn't think the "Us" in Usenet, stood for the United States, did
you?
Also Your news readers will supply past postings!?

For the past several years, my news browser has been Netscape
Communicator 4.8. Though somewhat dated, it even allows me to download
messages, so I can read them offline, at my leisure.

Further, Google Groups <http://groups.google.com> archives various
newsgroups' content, thereby providing a Web-based portal to Usenet.
(Its members can start their own threads, and/or reply to other
ones, as well.)
Do not understand this phrase. Might only be true for this NG.
But tellings and based facts are not yet known to You?
Horst

I only meant that your "contributions" have tended to lack any real
substance, hence far. This is a technical group, and constantly
criticizing peoples' posting styles is largely out of place and serves
no practical purpose.

C'mon, Horst...I know you can do better. If you've any helpful
information to share with us, then do so; if you're here to learn
(as I am), that's fine, too.

Either way, please refrain from nitpicking everybody to death! <G>


Cordially,
John Turco <[email protected]>
 
In news:[email protected] Arno Wagner typed:
A decent newstreader will give you the histry as tree you can
navigate. Try tin or trn, not that graphical trash that is so
"modern" now but sadly lacking in functionality.

Hi Arno, I don't understand these statements.
About what news reader are You talking?
It is normal and expected to start cutting thing that are more
than 2-3 postings back. Only those with broken newsreaders complain.

YES, that's my complaint! SEVEN are much more than 2 or 3!
If you really cannot get a good newsreader, groups.google.com will
also give you the history of a posting.
I don't need another one than OE6 with OE-Quotefix!
This ist able to handle ALL THOSE situations (despite other objections)!
Horst
 
In news:[email protected] John Turco typed:
"Usenet" is derived from "Users' Network," a distributed bulletin
board system, which began at Duke University (USA), in 1979.
You didn't think the "Us" in Usenet, stood for the United States, did
you?

Hi John , no never. US is no more in advance to the rest of the world!
This might have been valid till 1946 but since then lost more and more
competence (especially since the IRAK qruises).
Why is G.W.Bush still in command?
For the past several years, my news browser has been Netscape
Communicator 4.8. Though somewhat dated, it even allows me to download
messages, so I can read them offline, at my leisure.

Nothing against that. And it CAN read news server postings!
So there's no need for any SEVEN level reflected postings!
That was what I complained.
Further, Google Groups <http://groups.google.com> archives various
newsgroups' content, thereby providing a Web-based portal to Usenet.

And thus giving a good platform for address spammers ;-(
Here in Europe there's no need for Google, as the local news servers
provide a mirror of other news servers.
(Its members can start their own threads, and/or reply to other
ones, as well.)
No problem. This is a function of news servers I know.
I only meant that your "contributions" have tended to lack any real
substance, hence far. This is a technical group, and constantly
criticizing peoples' posting styles is largely out of place and serves
no practical purpose.

OK, but that's only one site of my arguments.
And "BAD quoting habits" are a well known missuse of the usenet.
Otherwise I also only post technical arguments.
C'mon, Horst...I know you can do better. If you've any helpful
information to share with us, then do so; if you're here to learn
(as I am), that's fine, too.
No more need to learn by myself (already done for 6 years)!
Therefore sometimes remindung usenet rules!
That's me who will have to download that nonsens quotings!
Either way, please refrain from nitpicking everybody to death! <G>
That's never been my intend, sorry. I prefer "pure technical statements".
Horst
 
In news:[email protected] Rod Speed typed:
You clearly need new glasses then.

Hi Rod, looks like You are the preferred candidate?
Depends entirely on whether they ever made it to the news server.

Sorry, CAN NIT VERSTAN!
Every news server will ever get the postings sent to him.
AND when you are so late to comment on particular posts, quite a
few news servers would have aged off the original posts by now too.

Sorry NO. I read mirror pages and they are current.
They contain ALL previous pages - so NO need to quote older postings!
Rubbish!
Do You want to exchange "fact statements" or *personal* attacks?
Looks like You're a kid just exploring the internet?
But on the other hand You also presented valuable facts.
Horst
 
Horst Franke said:
In news:[email protected] Arno Wagner typed:

Hi Arno, I don't understand these statements.
About what news reader are You talking?


YES, that's my complaint! SEVEN are much more than 2 or 3!

I don't need another one than OE6 with OE-Quotefix!
This ist able to handle ALL THOSE situations (despite other objections)!

Not necessarily, depends on the news server, stupid.
 
Horst Franke said:
Rod Speed wrote
Hi Rod, looks like You are the preferred candidate?

Any 2 year old could leave that for dead.
Sorry, CAN NIT VERSTAN!

Must be some type of wog or sumfin.
Every news server will ever get the postings sent to him.

Pity about the ones that arent sent to him.

And news servers are sexless anyway, stupid.
Sorry NO.

Fraid so.
I read mirror pages and they are current. They contain ALL previous pages - so NO need
to quote older postings!

Pity not everyone is using the same news server you are, stupid.

Saying your horseshit is rubbish now eh ? Figures.
Do You want to exchange "fact statements"

Repeat in pure english.
or *personal* attacks?

You wouldnt know what a *personal* attack was if it bit you on your lard arse, child.
Looks like You're a kid just exploring the internet?

Like I said, you clearly need new glasses.
But on the other hand You also presented valuable facts.

Unlike you who can only ever manage horseshit.
 
Horst Franke said:
John Turco typed
Hi John , no never. US is no more in advance to the rest of the world!

Odd how they managed to **** you krauts over so effectively in the war.
This might have been valid till 1946

No might about it.
but since then lost more and more competence

Odd, as far as I noticed they managed to invent the transistor,
the integrated circuit, the internet, the PC, etc etc etc since then.

Hell of a lot better than you krauts have ever managed since then.
(especially since the IRAK qruises).

Repeat in pure english.
Why is G.W.Bush still in command?

The US has a rather funky system called a democracy
that happened to elect him a couple of years ago, stupid.

AND they aint actually stupid enough to let some
jumped up little shit like Adolf rule the roost either.
Nothing against that. And it CAN read news server postings!

Pity about the ones that never made it to the news server!!!
So there's no need for any SEVEN level reflected postings!

You get no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.
That was what I complained.

Do the decent thing and top yourself or sumfin.

And jackboot around somewhere else.
And thus giving a good platform for address spammers ;-(
Here in Europe there's no need for Google, as the local news servers provide a mirror of
other news servers.

Mindless pig ignorant silly stuff.
No problem. This is a function of news servers I know.
OK, but that's only one site of my arguments.

You have always been, and always will be, completely
and utterly irrelevant. Your 'arguments' in spades.
And "BAD quoting habits" are a well known missuse of the usenet.

You get no say what so ever on that or anything else at all, ever.
Otherwise I also only post technical arguments.

Obvious lie in this post of yours alone.
No more need to learn by myself (already done for 6 years)!

6 years eh ? Mere child, like I said.
Therefore sometimes remindung usenet rules!

Repeat in pure english.

THERE ARE NO USENET RULES.

USENET IS AS CLOSE TO PURE ANARCHY AS YOU ARE
EVER LIKELY TO SEE NOW THAT YOU CLOWNS HAVE
COME TO YOUR SENSES AND DONT ATTEMPT TO
IMPOSE DEUSCHLAND UBER ALLES ANYMORE.
That's me who will have to download that nonsens quotings!

You lost the war.
That's never been my intend, sorry. I prefer "pure technical statements".

Pity you cant manage to get even a single one right.
 
In news:[email protected] Rod Speed typed:
Not necessarily, depends on the news server, stupid.

Hi Rod, rubbish! My news reader will read ALL news available
on my news server (mirrored from the original server).
Don't know what You use in the states but a news reader here
is a news reader that might read ALL and every news!
Horst
 
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