Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?

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Tomcat said:
And the worst thing that will happen is people will live with their
current XP machine longer than they had planned. I don't think the
Vista Upgrade will be a very big seller. People will just buy a whole
new system when they plan to upgrade to Vista.
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By the way, the cost of Windows will be a far greater fraction of the
system's cost than ever before. I have thoughtfully constructed a
table. The specifics may be a little off (please correct me if you know
better than me about the cost of Vista), but you get the idea:

date system cost Windows cost (Windows cost)/(system cost)
================================================================
1996 $2500 $50 (W95) 1/50
2001 1000 50 (XP) 1/20
2007 600 100 (Vista) 1/ 6

If you want MS Office or even just MS Word, the numbers get a lot worse.

That indicates an increasing motivation to use free software, especially
for big installations.
 
Tomcat (Tom) said:
Rod Speed wrote
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And the worst thing that will happen is people will live with their
current XP machine longer than they had planned. I don't think
the Vista Upgrade will be a very big seller. People will just buy
a whole new system when they plan to upgrade to Vista.
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Yep, and that is what happened with XP too.

And since **** all hardware comes with even ubuntu installed, linux is never
ever going to be more than a tiny niche of the personal desktop market.
 
Crispy Critter said:
Rod Speed wrote
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Well, lookee here. Thanks to people like me
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Another lie, thanks to the media exposure, actually.
bitching about the Vista EULA Microsoft have decided to change
the clause that says we can only move Vista to one new PC.
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No surprises there, thats happened plenty of times in the past, child.
 
Crispy Critter said:
Both. Microsoft gets their moeny and I get the OS - that's a win-win.
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Sorry I only asked about 1 win.......please start another thread about the
other....
 
Worthless troll



And there is a demon in every corner you pathetic little bow-tie-tard.
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Indeed. Without Microsoft you would be not be corresponding with me,
or with anyone else in this froup.

An intelligent person uses the most effective tools possible and a
good tool is something that you just use with out much thought. Most
people just want to do tasks on their computer, they do not want to
think about the OS or command line input, or the hardware for that
matter.. They just want to point and click. Windows XP is the most
productive and effective OS of all time. I really do not care about M$
bushiness model; I just want the freedom their OS affords me.

It is the old adage: "Build a better mousetrap and they will beat a
path to your door." This is what gives M$ the edge, not some
delusional crap about being forced to endure Windows at gunpoint.

Jealousy from the downtrodden. The weak always despise and envy the
strong.
 
Matt said:
By the way, the cost of Windows will be a far greater fraction of the
system's cost than ever before. I have thoughtfully constructed a
table. The specifics may be a little off (please correct me if you know
better than me about the cost of Vista), but you get the idea:

date system cost Windows cost (Windows cost)/(system cost)
================================================================
1996 $2500 $50 (W95) 1/50
2001 1000 50 (XP) 1/20
2007 600 100 (Vista) 1/ 6
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Yes, the ratio is higher but that's due to the cost of hardware getting
much cheaper combined with Windows getting much more costly to develop.

Windows is actually a bargain. Even @ the full $400. Consider the
amount of time you spend on your computer and typically how long the OS
lasts.

And honestly, if MS is the big monopolistic bully everybody is saying
it is, it could\should be charging twice as much for its software as it
is but it's not.
 
John said:
What do you do besides play games? What applications?
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Well, most of what I do is text-based. I write opinion pieces and
fiction. Email, browse the web, like most people. I use Word
sometimes, but there is a Linux equivalent. I code HTML with a
text-editor.

I can do most of what I do in Linux as well as in Windows. I just can't
play Guild Wars in Linux. I dual-boot Kubuntu and XP, and I feel NO
NEED for Vista whatsoever, at this point.
 
John said:
That's just silly.




Engineering, computer aided design -- computer aided manufacturing
(CAD/CAM) is a good counter example. That includes many different
categories. Those are expensive very complex applications. Financial
management is another good counter example. Those are extremely
popular big applications. You don't have to look far. Almost all
viable professional applications run exclusively on Windows. There
are lots more, and then not to mention the biggest of them all,
Microsoft's own Office applications.
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I have MS office XP suite, and it is lots more expensive, but in no
other way superior to Open Office.
 
Matt said:
By the way, the cost of Windows will be a far greater fraction of
the system's cost than ever before.
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It's something Microsoft has bragged about since before the big
antitrust trial.
I have thoughtfully constructed a table. The specifics may be a
little off (please correct me if you know better than me about the
cost of Vista), but you get the idea:

date system cost Windows cost (Windows cost)/(system cost)
================================================================
1996 $2500 $50 (W95) 1/50
2001 1000 50 (XP) 1/20
2007 600 100 (Vista) 1/ 6

If you want MS Office or even just MS Word, the numbers get a lot
worse.

That indicates an increasing motivation to use free software,
Click to expand...

Not free software, but any alternative. But since there is no
alternative, it just leads to increasing frustration.
 
Matt said:
By the way, the cost of Windows will be a far greater fraction of the
system's cost than ever before. I have thoughtfully constructed a
table. The specifics may be a little off (please correct me if you know
better than me about the cost of Vista), but you get the idea:

date system cost Windows cost (Windows cost)/(system cost)
================================================================
1996 $2500 $50 (W95) 1/50
2001 1000 50 (XP) 1/20
2007 600 100 (Vista) 1/ 6
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When was XP ever only 50 bucks?
 
Yes, the ratio is higher
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And it's something Microsoft has bragged about for almost 10 years.
but that's due to the cost of hardware getting much cheaper
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And the price of the operating systems staying the same. And
Microsoft increasingly clamping down on the not very technically
inclined users who don't have a techie friend. Eventually that's
good for people like the regulars here. Just like it drives us to
the hackers, it drives unskilled people to us.
combined with Windows getting much more costly to develop.
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The usual unsubstantiated babble. Microsoft's profit margins
are about 85%. That's outrageous compared to average software
publishers that have to compete for a living.
Windows is actually a bargain.
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Microsoft could make a very good living selling Windows for much
less. In fact, according to Microsoft executives Microsoft sells
Windows at its profit maximizing price.
And honestly, if MS is the big monopolistic bully everybody is
saying it is,
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At least you can hear what everyone is saying. Maybe someday you
will get a clue from that. Not likely.
 
A troll who can't find his imaginary kill file friend.


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Maybe you can teach them about your imaginary kill file friend.
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on and on you go..Jdoe.. same shit different day.
You know your an addy harvestor for a porn outfit.....
 
Indeed. Without Microsoft you would be not be corresponding with me,
or with anyone else in this froup.

An intelligent person uses the most effective tools possible and a
good tool is something that you just use with out much thought. Most
people just want to do tasks on their computer, they do not want to
think about the OS or command line input, or the hardware for that
matter.. They just want to point and click. Windows XP is the most
productive and effective OS of all time. I really do not care about M$
bushiness model; I just want the freedom their OS affords me.

It is the old adage: "Build a better mousetrap and they will beat a
path to your door." This is what gives M$ the edge, not some
delusional crap about being forced to endure Windows at gunpoint.

Jealousy from the downtrodden. The weak always despise and envy the
strong.
Click to expand...

Oh, **** off idiot.

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___________________________________________________
Jack Conners

Good judgement comes with experience.
Unfortunately a lot of that comes from bad judgement.

Xubuntu 6.10
 
The zealot converts yet another.........
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The person is already using Ubuntu you stupid as*h*le. No conversion
made or necessary. Wassa matter, pissed because you can't find any
converts to Microstiff WinBloat?

<snipped as horseshit>

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___________________________________________________
Jack Conners

Good judgement comes with experience.
Unfortunately a lot of that comes from bad judgement.

Xubuntu 6.10
 
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