Vista licence: punishment for frequent upgraders?

[JAD]

It would be full-time employment. Unfortunately, you wouldn't
survive considering JAD apparently isn't even concerned enough to do
rudimentary spellchecking or even brief proofreading. I think that
says something about his technical incapabilities.


So being non-white means you aren't a bigot? Hmm.

Who said I wasn't White? BTW I'm not a bigot, I hate everyone equally.

 

[Crispy Critter]

Another lie, thanks to the media exposure, actually.


No surprises there, thats happened plenty of times in the past, child.

You're just a follower and not a leader, nutjob, get used to it sheep-boy.

 

[John Doe]

And what clue is that? It would be nice to hear an actual
recommendation of what should be done about Microsoft's supposed
raping of the computer industry. People like you seem to enjoy
bitching

Some call it "arguing".

but you have no clue as to what the alternative to the current
situation should be.

<snip>

I'm not going to wade through all of the unsubstantiated assertions,
even if some of them are new. This group isn't really for learning
about Microsoft's business practices and I've explained enough.

So what should be done?

As you have read, I and others have expressed that already.

Force Microsoft to be broken up?

Preventing the operating system maker from making applications
would help level the applications programming playing field.

Force them to abandon their entire business model and dump Windows
and all their other software into the free market as open source?

In less frantic terms "open Windows source code". The other part of
your as usual carelessness about "Microsoft's other software" is a
straw man.

There is nothing about opening the source code to Windows which
would dump Microsoft's software into the free market. We're only
talking about Windows, and copyright protection does not require
secrecy. Opening the Windows source code is probably the best
solution.

But our leaders probably think that we can rule the world through
Microsoft. That's far-fetched. Like most freedom loving Americans,
non-Americans probably don't want to allow an incredible amount of
power to be concentrated in one company that our government can
easily commandeer. So the battle goes on. Microsoft will continue to
be beaten down in other countries while it tightens the screws here
at home just to maintain its corrupt empire.

 

[John Doe]

Here, here. Most righteously said!

I use linux, but whatever floats your boat.

Nobody cares whether you use Linux. I care whether you try
convincing other people that Linux is a viable personal computer
operating system for mainstream users. You shouldn't be here
misleading PC users while most of us here are trying to help them
solve problems.

 

[John Doe]

I'm not sure,

And that's the way it is. Obscurity is your answer when asking for
technical help with ordinary things in Linux.

The devil is in the details. You get there and then the Linux
Lunatics scatter like sheep, you end up sitting in a vacuum. Just
make sure to backup any important files on your computer before
jumping into the vacuum.

Anything is possible in the unforeseeable future, but for now
Microsoft couldn't have better friends than people who promote Linux
to ordinary PC users.

 

[Crispy Critter]

Another lie, thanks to the media exposure, actually.

Take note of the part that says *users*. In case you don't know who *users*
are, they are people like me, turn the bulb on for ****s sakes.

http://www.windowsitpro.com/windows...rticleID/94117/windowspaulthurrott_94117.html

In response to complaints from *users* that the new Windows Vista End User
License Agreement was too restrictive, Microsoft announced on Thursday that
it would change the license.

 

[JAD]

Take note of the part that says *users*. In case you don't know who *users*
are, they are people like me, turn the bulb on for ****s sakes.

http://www.windowsitpro.com/windows...rticleID/94117/windowspaulthurrott_94117.html

In response to complaints from *users* that the new Windows Vista End User
License Agreement was too restrictive, Microsoft announced on Thursday that
it would change the license.

Thank You Crispy 'User' Critter There will be a ceremony in the lobby
for the presentaion of the medal.....

 

[John Doe]

Do you know the abuse since windows 95 that MS has endured? Any
other company that had that much piracy of thier product done to
them, would be out of buisness.

As if Microsoft has ever lost money.

Network effects is another part of Windows monopoly power. Greater
distribution of software, with or (if necessary) without
compensation, is desirable until (if possible) the publisher gains
monopoly power over the market. Microsoft knew that early piracy of
its Windows was like money in the bank.

 

[Matt]

So what should be done? Force Microsoft to be broken up? Force them
to abandon their entire business model

Oh you mean the model wherein they work like hell to get their customers
to paint themselves into a Microsoft corner.

and dump Windows and all their
other software into the free market as open source? Fine Microsoft
into the ground?

Well, you could just tax their Windows income until Windows is down to
something like 85% of installations. That would permit a much healthier
system.

 

[Matt]

When was XP ever only 50 bucks?

Dell and HP don't pay MS as much for OEM licenses as we pay to newegg or
zipzoomfly. I need some help determining how much they do pay. My
first guess was $50.

 

[JAD]

Dell and HP don't pay MS as much for OEM licenses as we pay to newegg or
zipzoomfly. I need some help determining how much they do pay. My
first guess was $50.

IOW you completely made that up.

 

[Matt]

Actually, there is a shockwave flash player available for linux.

~brian

Ha ha, very confusing, because they call it the shockwave flash player.
Only thing is it doesn't play shockwave files. No kidding.

 

[JAD]

Ha ha, very confusing, because they call it the shockwave flash player.
Only thing is it doesn't play shockwave files. No kidding.

figures

 

[Matt]

IOW you completely made that up.

Naw, it was partly a SWAG, but I doubt it's off by 25%. Notice how I
asked for cooperation in improving the estimate? Really it's most
interesting how much the big OEMs will be paying for Vista.

Hey, why are you ignoring my posts about Indiana high schools converting
to Linux (330,000+ copies eventually)? I thought you'd be pleased.

I really like your saying "Attitude first, OS second". Very snappy, but
it isn't clear what it means or what it implies.

 

[Matt]

The zealot converts yet another.........who do you think you are connor, Ron
Hubbard?

In his garage you will find a truck full of large green pods. But
really, you can't imagine the feeling of absolute peace and happiness
.... don't try to fight it ...

 

[John Doe]

ToolPackinMama wrote:

Dell and HP don't pay MS as much for OEM licenses as we pay to
newegg or zipzoomfly. I need some help determining how much they
do pay. My first guess was $50.

For what it's worth and not meant to further the subject, but back
during the time of Windows Millennium, I bought the upgrade version
at Target (big US store) for $50. That's the only luck I've had.

 

[Rod Speed]

Not everyone, just the mindless anti MS bigots.

You in spades. You cant even manage to get a clue about
what a monopoly actually is, or anything else at all, either.

Some call it "arguing".

Only the silly little pig ignorant wankers like you and your ilk.

I'm not going to wade through all of the unsubstantiated assertions,
even if some of them are new. This group isn't really for learning
about Microsoft's business practices and I've explained enough.

Pathetic, really.

As you have read, I and others have expressed that already.

Pity not one of them is actually viable.

Preventing the operating system maker from making applications
would help level the applications programming playing field.

Never gunna be feasible to produce a dividing
line between apps and OS enhancements.

And why should the operation that has produced a very useful
suite of office apps be forced to divest themselves of those ?

In less frantic terms "open Windows source code".

**** off.

The other part of your as usual carelessness
about "Microsoft's other software" is a straw man.

Bare faced lie, you ran the party line about that
just above, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist.

There is nothing about opening the source code to Windows
which would dump Microsoft's software into the free market.
We're only talking about Windows, and copyright protection
does not require secrecy. Opening the Windows source
code is probably the best solution.

Wouldnt have any effect what so ever on MS's dominance of the OS market.

But our leaders probably think that we can rule the world through Microsoft.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.

That's far-fetched.

Having fun thrashing that straw man are you child ?

Like most freedom loving Americans, non-Americans probably don't
want to allow an incredible amount of power to be concentrated in
one company that our government can easily commandeer.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.

So the battle goes on. Microsoft will continue
to be beaten down in other countries

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.

while it tightens the screws here at
home just to maintain its corrupt empire.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

sigh:: An informed opinion is not a lie.

Pity its nothing like an informed opinion, its actually a bare faced lie.

 

[Rod Speed]

<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Take note of the part that says *users*.

Irrelevant to why MS actually made that change, cretin.

http://www.windowsitpro.com/windows...rticleID/94117/windowspaulthurrott_94117.html

In response to complaints from *users* that the new Windows
Vista End User License Agreement was too restrictive,
Microsoft announced on Thursday that it would change the license.

Just because that fool claims it doesnt make it gospel, child.