SP2 what a bunch of @#$!!!

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Simply running LiveUpdate will download and install the Norton patch that
will update VMI, and then Windows Security Center will recognize the status
of both Norton AV and Norton Firewall.

Bobby
 
I have just finished reading many of the replies to this message, and I
must say: Wow! There are alot of "developers" out there having problems,
and flying off the handle without being completely informed. I call them
"developers" only because they are using Visual Studio (and that's the only
reason). Like so many others out there, I have a pretty heavily loaded
development environment (including AV running) and I installed SP2 without
incident. Everything has worked wonderfully ever since and I'm fairly
impressed with the update. I hope that the ones having such difficulty with
the product will identify where the problems lie, and be able to remedy them
quickly, but I feel that it's a bit premature to place the blame for all
these problems on Microsoft's shoulders.

JRB
 
JRB said:
I have just finished reading many of the replies to this message, and I
must say: Wow! There are alot of "developers" out there having problems,
and flying off the handle without being completely informed. I call them
"developers" only because they are using Visual Studio (and that's the only
reason). Like so many others out there, I have a pretty heavily loaded
development environment (including AV running) and I installed SP2 without
incident. Everything has worked wonderfully ever since and I'm fairly
impressed with the update. I hope that the ones having such difficulty with
the product will identify where the problems lie, and be able to remedy them
quickly, but I feel that it's a bit premature to place the blame for all
these problems on Microsoft's shoulders.

I suspect your sample of one is at least as biased an estimator of the
true fraction of problems as the sampling obtained by reading this
thread... :)
 
"What the heck was Microsoft Thinking"
Easy, security.
Learn how to use it properly instead of simply discarding security so
quickly.
 
You can go to internet options...advanced tab and check allow active
content to run in My Computer.
 
I love Zonealarm. I did all theese online open port scans and didnt mis
one. all in green. i´d liked to see the zonealarm engine implemente
into XP. that would fit my imagination. this Sp2 firewall is nice fo
non techies also, and if iam right, its asking for outbound traffic
like.. is this program allowed to call out. but the settings are muc
harder to find and also hard to configure. I would like some kind o
option to switch tech to nontechie. like zonealarm always did.
I also not think that it is a clever move to blame a software produc
from a company thats only focusing on doing their Firewall secure fo
not doing their job right.
If i would give a tipp. Turn off the SP2 firewall and instal
zonealarm. Its really worth the money. If you think its to complex tha
turn sp2 firewall back on. Its jsut shareware. so try it. you alway
have the feeling to know whats going on, and what program is currentl
"using" the internet. dont see that in Sp2. And to implement a
Antivirus Status window inside the SP2 without even consultate th
former AV companies for getting an SP2 plugin is the funniest ide
ever. Is it MS´s job to hold the program running after the update the
made ? or is it the company´s job to change their product for an
change MS is doing to their OS ? what comes first.. the egg ? :


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Benjamin300
 
Plato said:
Well, it seems like you just dont know how to upgrade an OS. *

well i know how to do it and have seen many pcs with nothing bu
problems since installing it, along with MANY other techs. Have ha
computers blue screen, constant freezing of the screen, and man
programs that no longer work..yet some (not many) it goes no problem.
dont tell steve hes full of s**t unless youve seen his "bad install
and tell the million other people having problems with it including p
shops that they know nothing to


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moosejawc
 
-snip-
Every time I try browsing a
site, I have to refresh -snip- ten times to get it to display the page.
Most of the times I get the "Page cannot be displayed - check your
connection" error and -snip- knows what else.

-snip-

I read through this thread and didn't see any more information about
this. I, too, am having problems with needing to refresh at least
twice (zero was the norm before) to see updated pages on a Website
that I maintain using FrontPage on a Microsoft bCentral host account.
I do not know if this is an issue on other sites since this is the
only one I maintain (www.texaschess.org). Is it possible the fact
this URL is being redirected by NameSecure to the 'real' site part of
the issue?

Any ideas what may be causing this would be greatly appreciated
please.

Best regards,

George
 
I installed SP2 early this september and have no problems... I am running XP
pro on an compaq presarion laptop amd athlon 1800. I run Visual Studio.NET
and SQLServer 2000 amoung other things and have not had any issues at all...

(knock on wood)
 
Len said:
Checked out the link you included and it takes me:
http://www.georgejohn.bcentralhost.com/tca/index.htm which seems correct.
Not seeing a problem with this system running XP Pro SP2.

FWIW, Len

-snip-

Len,

Thanks for checking. However, since you didn't have prior pages
already, there isn't any way you could know (right?) if there is a
problem with seeing updating pages (sorry if I was unclear).

The issue is after I update page, I see the old page in IE unless I
refresh the page a couple times.

I just upgraded to SP2 at home, and don't see the problem. Maybe this
has something to do with the corporate firewall instead, but I have
not seen it prior to installing SP2. Could be a coincidence of
course.

Best regards,

George
 
The fact that you are using the MSDN Newsgroups instead of the public ones
suggests (to me anyway) that you (and others involved in this thread) are
regular MSDN visitors and probably developers at some level.

If this is so then you have no excuse for not knowing the potential issues
with SP2, since Microsoft and other independent contributors have been
publishing articles about it on the site for months.

If it is not so, why are you cluttering up this invaluable resource for
developers with complaints that don't belong here.
 
Mike;
These are all public newsgroups.
The fact some may be managed by MSDN does not change that fact.
 
Probably a caching problem, either with IE or a gateway somewhere between you
and the live server...
Set IE to check for new versions "every visit to the page" (internet options
-> temporary intenet files -> settings)... Note this will not help if it is
being cached elsewhere.... in which case you can add content expiration
headers to your html...

jd

set your browser to always
 
Yep I agree. SP2 really makes your computer slow. The firewall automatically
turns on every time you turn on your computer.
 
Wen said:
Yep I agree. SP2 really makes your computer slow. The firewall automatically
turns on every time you turn on your computer.

Turn off firewall in network properties or in services if you don't want
it. Defrag. Reboot at least 3-4 times over a weeks time. Boot
prefetch takes that many reboots to kick in. The in built optimization
runs every three days. It takes time for the prefetch folder to be
rebuilt. Defrag again. If things are still running slow try some clean
boot troubleshooting to see if any startup apps are causing problems.
They might need to be uninstalled / reinstalled.

How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310560

How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=316434
 
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=sp2+problems

Ya add that to the thousands that complain in these NGs, and other groups, plus the plethora/cornucopia - ever growing as I type - of fixes, cures, work-arounds and solutions that Microsoft has out plus the way too many private sites/pages that are out one would have to agree with the subject.

Yep I agree. SP2 really makes your computer slow. The firewall automatically
turns on every time you turn on your computer.

Turn off firewall in network properties or in services if you don't want
it. Defrag. Reboot at least 3-4 times over a weeks time. Boot
prefetch takes that many reboots to kick in. The in built optimization
runs every three days. It takes time for the prefetch folder to be
rebuilt. Defrag again. If things are still running slow try some clean
boot troubleshooting to see if any startup apps are causing problems.
They might need to be uninstalled / reinstalled.

How to Troubleshoot By Using the Msconfig Utility in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=310560

How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=316434
 
Wen said:
Yep I agree. SP2 really makes your computer slow. The firewall
automatically turns on every time you turn on your computer.

You may say it makes yours slow, and if it does, you probably have some
issues already.
Can't say it makes mine slow, if anything, mine is more robust and works
very well.
 
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