Are you a customer of Mesh Computers?

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I placed an order with Mesh and paid for it on 2nd Feb - a £1500+ elite pro package . It arrived a day late without a monitor and office software, with a note saying that both were currently out of stock. I got the usual "We expect the items within seven days" This happened for three consecutive weeks with all the enquiries and prompting for action coming from me, not a peep from Mesh unless forced to answer the telephone.

Because I was getting no sensible update from Mesh, and the batteries had run out on my crystal ball, I demanded a full refund (7.3 of terms and conditions) of the entire system. They pondered for a while, then collected what they had delivered on 23rd March stating they would have to check it before authorising a refund. This check was not completed until 10th April when they said they would give me a full refund, which I'm now waiting for. So they now have my money, and the computer. I'll let you know if and when I get my refund.

I have yet to experience a company with such a shoddy customer services department. They don't do anything at all until you push, press and goad them. They let you hang on typically for 20 minutes before answering the telephone, which when added to the enquiry usually means a £3 to £4 call each time you contact them. After 15 to 20 calls this gets a little annoying, especially when they promise to do something, but do nothing at all when you put the phone down. Half the times you phone, you wait 20 minutes then get a 'call-logger' who notes the call and says someone will call back - but they don't, so you have to phone again, and get another call logger, and so on. I have emailed them 7 times, and had no repsonse other than automated messages on three occasions saying they promise to contact me within 5 days! It's lies, nothing more, nothing less!

The only times I have had a proactive response from Mesh has been with their interests uppermost. They stated they would give me £165 refund for the monitor they couldn't deliver - the cheapest online price for the monitor was £375 plus delivery, so they stood to gain £200 from that call! I was also contacted to be told that I should cancel my office 2007 order because of licence problems. That was 2nd March, and I have never yet got my £104 back for that - probably never will. Kerrrching, another £104 potentially gained!

The only other call I've had from them was from their technical support - a courtesy call to see if all was OK with my computer, a fortnight after it had been returned??!!

I get a horrible feeling that I will never get my money back. I made some points to DaveyW on their numb Hexus sub-forum, and he locked my thread!

If I get no satisfaction along with a decent goodwill gesture to cover my costs, this shower will be getting some lawyers letters.

I don't understand why a company should ever want to make their potential customers (and best salespeople through word of mouth) so bloody angry. They make potential ambassadors for their company into denigrators by their own antipathy. It makes no sense!
While writing this post I am wasting yet another day waiting for AMTRAK to collect a remote control which Mesh sent to me (and left on the front step in full view while I was on a weekend break). They sent this about 3 weeks after they acknowledged the cancellation and return of my order, and I apparently have to ensure the safe return of this remote before they will consider refunding my £1,500.

I have wasted more time, money and patience with Mesh than any other company I have dealt with. I have done absolutely nothing wrong other than ordering the damn computer from Mesh in the first place.

I have no input about the quality of their product - although it's the main reason I placed the order in the first place. But if you want any quality of customer service (and believe me it is important) please reconsider ordering from Mesh.
 
Just a heads up for folks here - watch BBC Watchdog tomorrow at 8PM on BBC1 :)

Please keep any discussion about it till after the programme :thumb:
 
I read the "Computer active" magazine,it`s a fortnightly mag.And for the last
two issues "Mesh" computers are not advertising. They used to take either a
full page or half page in every issue but appears not any more.
Could this be because of the adverse publicity of late.?
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May be they forgot to pay the bill.;)
But after their appearance on Watchdog i thought they would want to advertise evem more!
It will be interesting to see if any of the promises that Mesh have made are acted on.
In the past they have promised much, but failed to deliver!!!

Hiya Davey & Mesh:wave:
 
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Passing time and came accross this thread:

1.I purchased two Desktops from Mesh, three and four years ago, and they are both still working perfectly. Re Service, on one I had a power unit problem, an Engineer was with me in a coupe of days and replaced it. However appreciate this was a few years ago and things seem to have gone downhill since then.

2. Re cost of holding on for an answer to an 0870....number help line don't!. Go to:

www.saynoto0870.com

One on the most helpful sites I have come accross and find an alternative 01 or 02 number, everyone has them!
 
Buzzwoody, Yes some get a pc from mesh that works fine.
But the main gripe is how difficult it is to get through to mesh by phone & their total disrespect to the customer.
Seems that their Customer Service is poorly run, OK after appearing on BBC Watchdog they decided to up CS by 100% but we will have to wait to see if anything comes of it!
 
If you have any sense you will not even consider ordering from Mesh computers. Try this instead...burn £1500 on your BBQ. Then drill a 13mm flat bit through your temple very slowly. Finally, make several premium rate international phone calls every day for 3 months. If after all this you feel OK, then you are ready for the Mesh experience so go for it.

This company had £1700 of my money for 4 months for a "high spec" computer that never even booted up once. After 2 unsuccessful engineer visits, I acted quickly to return the goods for a full refund. They received the unit back on April 2nd and I only received my refund on May 11th. Had I not involved my credit card issuer and threatened to prosecute them for the money I'm sure that I would still be waiting. I dread to think about the outcome had I not used a credit card for the purchase. Thank the lord for the 'Consumer Credit Act'!

All contact with mesh throughout this episode was met with lies, obstruction and incompetence.

You have been warned. Any other victims out there - you have my sympathies!
 
Mancmatt, sorry to hear you tale but it's not uncommon to hear things like this.

The only hope now is that mesh stick to their BBC Watchdog pledge of improving Customer Service.

Only time will tell & the whole point of this thread is to get mesh to give a proper service to their customers, a post like yours on some forums would result in it being deleted or you getting a ban for voicing you complaint, come on Mesh provide the service you should be offering customers that buy mesh computers, after all you (mesh) used to be the talking point of pc buyers for all the good reasons!!
 
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A great quote from mesh to a customers problem!
"if you were willing to do so I would also advise taking the side of the case off and checking for anything that might have come loose during transit"

Now with other companies opening the case up invalidates your warranty, but not with mesh they want you to have a play inside, why pay for an on-site warranty when mesh suggest you fiddle with it yourself!

Just goes to show that support at mesh really is a bit heath robinson in it's approach!!
 
My experience with this company was odd to say the least. They were actually not interested in my custom, despite the fact that I had over £1,000 to spend.

I sent them an e-mail asking them to give me a quote for a high end PC, giving them the specifications listed below. At the same time, I explained that I was partially deaf and could not ring them.

After 2 weeks, they sent me an e-mail asking for my personal details so that they could post the specification. A month later I got fed up waiting for them and phoned them on a borrowed a modified phone. They promised that they would sent the specifications straight away. two weeks later I e-mailed them again to ask what was going on. The specifications arrived a week later - after I had already gone to a local company to build my PC to my specifications.

What a palava!!:wall:
 
I'll try to keep it short...

About 2 years ago i bought a laptop from Mesh which worked fine for a few months. Had software issues, but managed to recall enough of my days in IT to resolve it with a couple of reinstalls of windows. About a year ago, whilst on loan to a friend, it suddenly died one day. I got it home and found it would shut down after a few seconds of anything, so i figured it was a temperature problem and got in touch with Mesh. They explained that if i had called the week before i would still have been in warranty, but now i wasn't. I had to pay shipping back to the 3rd party laptop tech support who contacted me and told me i needed a new m'board at the cost of £300 + shipping +labour. I told them i couldn't afford it, ship it back, i'll use it as a doorstop.

About 14 months ago i bought a base unit for about £1200, with monitor, etc. and, once again, had a few software issues, but mainly d'core proc. driver problems, causing crashing when playing Planetside, EVE, etc. or using video editing software. I sorted out the driver and optimizer issues and it worked fine for a few weeks, but the crashing became more severe and only ever under heavy graphic loads - ran diags on everything i could as it seemed like a temperature issue, but nothing was obvious so i sent it back to Mesh - at no point did they say they would charge me for any of it and i received a letter stating "A replacement system may take between 2-5 working days."

Two days after the arranged collection time, because Mesh had given them my old address, despite me telling them i'd moved, Amtrak whisked it away. I called Mesh the next day to see if it had arrived safely, but they couldn't tell me as "it probably has, just hasn't been booked in yet." Three days later i finally convinced someone to physically go and find my machine and found that yes, it had indeed been there 3 days and still hadn't been booked in, let alone looked at.

Whilst it was being looked at, i killed some time by dusting off the laptop, crossing my fingers and lifting the cover off - i discovered that the heat sink from the processor had come loose & the paste had dried up - one 5p tube of silver solution later, one hours worth of HDd diags and several repaired sectors and my Lappie was back in the land of the living - the one i nearly shelled out £350+ in.

Back to the base unit: Several hundred phonecalls, not one returned call as they had promised, and ten days later, i finally spoke to the engineer working on my machine and we agreed it had to be the graphics card overheating - he replaced it that day. 5 days later i called them to find out what had happened and they told me i would have to pay £35 postage. I politely asked to be put through to the smartarse who thought he was going to hold my machine to ransom - didn't get put through, but the customer "support" (in it's lossest term) came back and said they would waive the fee. It was dispached, then vanished - arrived at my neighbours house 2 days later.

System seemed fine, despite some rather dubious drivers which were corrected with no real problem, until i started a game and now, instead of restarting, the box shuts down - just powers off, no ceremony or anything.

I did 3 days of diags on the box and eventually sourced it to the same problem - the graphics card (by now an ATi x1650) was overheating. The system took 15 minutes before i could power it up again after it died, but when i run a normal house fan on the card, i could start it again inside 3 minutes. Not rocket science.

Their tech support refused to help me unless i was sat in front of it with the bios up - i explained i had spent three days to narrow this down, but he refused to listen and i hung up on him. I got in from work (5.15pm) and immediately rang them to make sure i was at least in the queue by 5.30 when they were meant to shut. I was on hold for 50 minutes, at which point the ring tone changed and i was redirected to a call centre which i assume is abroad as despite their spoken English being fantastic, they could barely understand me, which was neatly reflected in the address the next letter was sent to - at least that made me laugh.

Instead of tech support, i was instantly told that i would be sent a sticker and to send it back - no questions or anything, just send it back. I argued that i couldn't be without my machine for another 20 days, but he assured me that due to recent press they would guarantee a 5 day turnaround.

Today my machine was booked to be collected by Amtrak, after 12pm, so i could book the afternoon off of work. At 4pm i rang Mesh who tried to get me to ring Amtrak and track my own parcel - i explained that this month i've spent over £40 on phonecalls to Mesh, so how about THEY ring Amtrak and ring me back. At 5.15pm i got a call from Mesh saying that she had spoken to Amtrak and it was on a drivers list and would definately be picked up before 6pm.

it's now 7.20pm and i've been here since 12pm on the dot.

Well, thanks Mesh - i'll never get them hours back again, and now i guess you expect me to wait in and take more time off work. I'm sick of this crap, tbh...
 
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Littlesthobo, sorry to hear your troubles

Either contact (e-mail address removed) or if you think it's gone past trying complain to BBC Watchdog.
Seems mesh's promise to provide better customer support by 100% was all bull!

Would be nice if mesh or davey came and answered these problems, but they just come by quietly instead.:nod:
 
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Well, a weeks passed and so far the engineer hasn't looked at it, but is in the queue, based on priority. I tried to explain that surely priority meant when it arrived if they were to keep to this 5 day turnaround. He explianed it only arrived Friday (three days after it was collected which brings into question what the deal is with the package they have with Amtrak, but that's another story - it might have been delivered the next day, he could only tell me when it was booked into MESH's system.)

I've given up ringing them - since last months £45 worth of calls to them i can't actually afford to ring, so i'm just sat here accepting the fact that they can and do do whatever they want, whenever they want, and even though i've complained about a million times, no-one cares.

I'll apparently get a call from the engineer when he gets around to my machine, but who knows when that might be. Who knows if they even have the right phone number.

I spent most of yesterday afternoon trying to find an email addy to the boss of MESH (named on the site, mentioned in numerous thread, name escapes me now), just wanted to vent a bit about how bottom of the barrel their after sales service is, but he's as mysterious as god, and twice as hard to get in touch with and, besides, if he was that bothered about what his customers thought, maybe he'd actually have the balls to come out and admit what a shambles the setup is there and maybe take some responsibility for improving it.

ps - something to keep in mind if you're ringing them on a number you have been sent in a letter, and keep getting an engaged tone - check your call duration, as i've found it often connects you, THEN gives an engaged tone, meaning you will have been charged for the initial connection, despite it being engaged. Smart, but yet another scam to chalk up.
 
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Sad to hear of the woes you are having with Mesh Littlesthobo. :(


I cannot give you much in the way of a consolation prize but only add that someone from Mesh will read your post ... unfortunately, they seem to be keyboard shy here at PCReview, perhaps it is down to the workload of the individual who monitors our forum. :rolleyes:

Good Luck.


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Littlesthobo, if you not happy & you dont feel your getting anywhere with mesh, then i really do suggest you try BBC Watchdog as mesh did promise to answer calls within 4 rings & improve their customer service by 100%!

Watchdog will listen to you & they may well be able to get direct action out of mesh, something we as mesh customers seem not to be able to do!!!

Good luck
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And if mr mesh or davey come by to see the unhappy posts, hellooooooooo
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thanks guys, at least it's reassuring that they breeze by here during their coffee breaks ;)

I would give up on it and just sort it out myself, but it's reached the point where i'm determined to at least get my phone bills worth of support, if not the actual technical side :P
 
Littlesthobo said:
thanks guys, at least it's reassuring that they breeze by here during their coffee breaks ;)

I would give up on it and just sort it out myself, but it's reached the point where i'm determined to at least get my phone bills worth of support, if not the actual technical side :P
To be honest a few people from here have given up on their mesh warranties, it's not worth the hassle or the amount of time they take when you RTB a pc to them.

With any luck mesh will get to be shown for what they really are on Watchdog again!
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All i & others want from mesh is the service they should be providing us!!!!!
 
Update - 9 days since the machine was collected, 6 since it arrived, it still hasn't been looked at and is sitting gathering dust in the service department.

I was put through to Karim who decided he was going to quote to me all the standard gumph of policy etc, but now the promised "5 day turnaround" has become an "estimated 5 to 10 day turnaround from when it's booked in". I tried to explain what had gone on in the past, but he started to get rather annoyed and told me to stop talking over him and that the dispatch date for my machine is 4th June. I pointed out that there is no way in the world they are going to keep my machine until then so just send it back - let me be free of this misery and frustration!

He's a very rude guy, Karim, who apparently considers himself something rather special. He said the usual "Trust me", "Leave it with me" and all them other wonderful phrases, said he'd call me back (to which i tried to point out was something i'll wait to see) and was generally just flat out not the kind of person i need to be talking to. He knew better than me at every comment, he didn't listen or even try to empathise with why i'm so frustrated with MESH and finished by saying he would get a report for me by this afternoon and if he could he might even manage to arrange for it to be shipped today - If that is possible then why is it not happening by course then???

I'm so cheesed off with them - they make plenty of bold statements to placate Watchdog, then don't honour them and change their policy when it suits them.

I await a call back this afternoon - not holding my breath.
 
I suggest you contact mesh's Customer Service head-bod (e-mail address removed) Davey in my dealings with him was polite & got the problems sorted out quickly & is a surprise in a company thats offers such a crap service generaly!

Either that or contact Watchdog, see if they can push things along!!!
 
Thanks, F - bit of another update, if you're still riveted :D haha!

I couldn't stand the anticipation of waiting on Karim to call me back, so i called at 4.30 and pointed out to someone else that i hadn't been called back, and i'm still waiting. I called again when i got home, at about 5.15 and, rather handily, Karim answered the phone. I asked where my report was, and he explained that he'd given my machine to the engineer and he was compiling the report as we spoke. I pointed out that they shut in ten minutes and that i severely doubted he was going to call me in that time, so to forget it and just stick my machine back in the box and post it back, i'll mend it myself. He stammered down the phone a few things, i told him i wasn't interested and hung up.

Rougly half a minute later my phone rang and it was Karim calling to tell me that, rather coincidentally, the engineer had finished whilst i was on the phone last time, had compiled his report and found out that it was *drum roll* an overheating video card!! \o/ *does a little "i-told-you-that-a-fortnight-ago" dance. Not only had he managed to diagnose that problem, he'd already replaced it and it was on it's way to dispatch as we spoke! I told him to make a note that once i received my machine i would have nothing more to do with MESH and would sacrifice the last 18 months of my warranty.

So, now we know - the engineers are able to bend time somehow. Either that, or Karim was "misinformed" somewhere along the line as to the state of my PC. I won't say he just lied, that'd be assuming.

I've emailed Watchdog about it briefly, and when i mail Davey it'll basically be to tell my tale and explain i want nothing more to do with MESH. I've typed and deleted this line about a hundred times, trying to think of a great way to describe them, but all i can think of is either too harsh, or been used already.

Pathetic. Yeah, that'll do :)

Thanks for the help guys, i'll wait with baited breath and keep my fingers crossed for anyone else still suffering the experience of their "customer services"...
 
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