So does that mean that I grew up without a TV, just because we only had
one TV in a household of four people?
How does you purposeful ignorance answer that one?
Howard said:That wasn't the part I was questioning - I was questioning that most
people use dial-up. I recognized that it was possible that the
original post that "most people don't have computers" might be correct
- illustrating this by showing that infants and old folk are people.
If that isn't what was meant, then I might question that as well.
winddancer said:is this a help/discussion forum or a bitch session.i'm just blown
away with some of the bitchy crap....get on with it and assist someone
kurttrail said:I am. Spreading the fact that mostly only deserving fools get their
computers infected with spyware.
Again, Did I grow up without a TV just because we shared one in a
household of four?
LOL! Dial-up is of little consequence. A fool can get there computer
infected with spywae whether using dial-up or broadband.
I am. Spreading the fact that mostly only deserving fools get their
computers infected with spyware.
Howard said:The answer to this non-sequitur is no.
I explained why your question did not apply to my post. You asked it
again, so I answered it. That doesn't change what I said.
Not necessarily there computer, but even here computer.
Still someone made a statement about populations and I questioned
those numbers. I agree that it doesn't make any difference about
what protection is needed, but I'd still like to know what the numbers
are.
winddancer said:good onya ,and these forums are suppose to assist people with there
computer mishaps aren't they.
not everyone is born with a computer in
their head when there born.CHILLOUT YA-ALL
Notan said:"Deserving fools?" I don't think so.
More like, those who aren't computer savvy.
Howard said:It's not a fact. Besides undeserving fools, there's a constant
battle where people write new spyware which bypasses earlier defenses.
Sometimes they're ahead of diligent defenders.
kurttrail said:And coddling them doesn't get them more computer savvy. All it does is
keep them reliant on being coddled, while they continue to sit on their
fat lazy asses learning nothing. And you enablers are just part of the
problem, instead of part of the solution.
No. They are for communicating. And I am helping by communicating that
much of the spyware problem is caused by fools infecting their own
computers.
Did I say they were? Before buying my first computer, I knew about
anti-virus protection, eventhough viruses weren't as widespread as they
are today. People have to learn to fend for themselves when it comes to
safe computing, and coddling them isn't a big help, as it just enables
them to sit back on their fat lazy stupid asses.
The best anti-spyware protection isn't software but a proactive computer
user using common sense.
Alias said:In the heat of the night, I could have sworn I heard "kurttrail" exclaim:
Perhaps it would be better to say "hapless, unknowing users" rather than
"fools", although, technically, you're correct; to not educate yourself is
foolish. It's not like spyware, viruses, etc. haven't made the evening news
or anything.
Alias said:It takes the wind out of your infants not having computers sail. And
as for the elderly, that only applies to the small percentage of
extreme elderly. Much of the population where I live are retired,
and most of them have computers nowadays, if only to get pictures of
the grandkids
by email.<<<
How old does one have to be to qualify as "elderly" or "extremely
elderly"? My father's online and he's 80. So are all his octogenarian
friends, all of whom have no problem affording good computers and
broadband. I know a lady here in Spain who has a lap top for when
she's in bed, a desktop for serious stuff and WiFi. She's in her
eighties as well. All her octogenarian friends keep up on what's
happening by IMing each other. I would say that older people who know
how to touch type do better than some of the two finger "experts"
that take up to an hour to type out a letter ... and only know when
to hit F8 to get into Safe Mode or OK or Accept when installing a
program or running a mem test, virus test, virus update downloads,
etc.
Alias
Alias said:In the heat of the night, I could have sworn I heard "kurttrail"
exclaim:
Perhaps it would be better to say "hapless, unknowing users" rather
than "fools", although, technically, you're correct; to not educate
yourself is foolish. It's not like spyware, viruses, etc. haven't
made the evening news or anything.
I agree. Safe hex is the best way. You don't get to see any elephants
copulating with amazon women but that's why we have DVDs and cable TV,
right?
Alias
Notan said:There's a big difference between "coddling" and "teaching."
You sound like someone from the "sink or swim" school.
Notan said:Brilliant. Both of you.
You make fun of people, because they're not as computer knowledgeable
as you, then you wonder why they don't ask question to *become* more
knowledgeable.
I'd say, *you're* the fools.