A new hijacking

[kurttrail]

$$ Learned HOW? Us older people learned nothing about computers in
school.

Neither did I.

You sound like a real pompous ass to me.

"Sound." What I really am is someone not willing to give fools easy
answers, and in the process enabling them to whine for help every time
they get the virtual asses in trouble due to their own lazy foolishness.

$$ Your are a pompous ass!

LOL! No. A**hole. And any man that isn't, is just a pansy.

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[nobody]

This is a Type III anonymous message, sent to you by the Winston Smith
Project mixminion server at firenze.linux.it. If you do not want to
receive anonymous messages, please contact antani-
(e-mail address removed). For more information about anonymity, see
https://remailer.firenze.linux.it or
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-----BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-----
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Does anyone know how they make money if Opera
is now free and without any ads?

Spyware backdoors built into the browser that allows them to compromise your
email, address book, browsing history, bookmarks, file transters and any other
tidbits like making copys of files with names like 'passwords.txt', pgp keyrings
you name it.

mostly, the tracking of user information, collected at your machine by the browser
while it's running, and then reported occasionally to any one of dozens of sites as
you surf normally, especially those that use flash animation.


-----END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-----

 

[kurttrail]

==========
I resent this.

Are you an ignorant fool that keeps getting spyware infected over and
over again?

A matter of common sense when a noob has no way to
know what's out there?

The OP isn't a noob. Are you? If so, how long have you owned a
computer?

When I first got online 10 years ago I was as
clueless as the next person - we all learn as we go, as we read,
listen and surf. I tried to find information about lizards for my
young step-daughter and the next thing I knew I had been diverted to
a bestiality porn site. I didn't even know such things existed
online - so give us a break!

Ignorant fool. Bestiality porn is older than the net. Before clicking
on the link, did you look at the URL?

Did you have safe search on in your search engine preferences?

Did you have a real-time spyware and AV scanners installed and
up-to-date?

These are all common sense things to have and do. Do you buy a car
before you know how to drive? No?

Do you want your kids to have sex before having sex ed? No?

Then why the hell would you buy a computer without learning the
fundamentals of safe computing?

There is no good excuse for not educating yourself before heading out
into the virtual wild, wild west!

Your gonna wrinkle frowning like that.

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[Fitz]

--
***
NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the
developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the
most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party
who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission.
***

Sounds like Smithfraud. Here is my canned answer and fix for that issue.

Windows XP/2K (includes Ewido)

You may want to print out or make a copy of these instructions before
starting, because you will not be able to connect to the internet during
most of this fix.

Please download smithrem.zip and save it to your desktop
http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/smithrem.zip
Right click on the file and extract it to its own folder on the desktop.

Please download, install, and update the free version of Ewido Security
Suite:
When installing, under "Additional Options" uncheck "Install background
guard" and "Install scan via context menu"
http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/ewidosetup.exe .

From the main Ewido screen, click on update in the left menu, then click
the Start update button.
After the update finishes, the status bar at the bottom will display
"Update successful"
Exit Ewido. DO NOT run a scan yet.

If you do not already have Ad-Aware SE 1.06 installed, download
http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/aawsepersonal.exe
Again, do NOT run a scan yet.


Next, please reboot your computer in Safe Mode by doing the following:
Restart your computer
After hearing your computer beep once during startup, but before the
Windows icon appears, press F8.
Instead of Windows loading as normal, a menu should appear
Select the first option, to run Windows in Safe Mode.
Now scan with HJT http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/HijackThis.zip and
place a checkmark next to each of the following items:

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/search.php?qq=%1
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/bar.html
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/search.php?qq=%1
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/search.php?qq=%1
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/search.php?qq=%1
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,(Default) =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/search.php?qq=%1
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page
=http:://www.quicknavigate.com/
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL =
about:blank
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL =
http:://www.startsearches.net/search.php?qq=%1
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
http:://www.startsearches.net/bar.html
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page =
http:://www.startsearches.net/search.php?qq=%1
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
http:://www.startsearches.net/search.php?qq=%1
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
http:://www.startsearches.net/search.php?qq=%1
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,(Default) =
http:://www.startsearches.net/search.php?qq=%1
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
http:://www.startsearches.net/
O2 - BHO: VMHomepage Class - {FFFFFFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF} -
C:\WINDOWS\System32\hp6DD8.tmp
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [WindowsFY] c:\wp.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [WindowsFY] c:\bsw.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WindowsFZ] C:\WINDOWS\ZLOADER3.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Security iGuard] C:\Program Files\Security
iGuard\Security iGuard.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PSGuard] C:\Program Files\PSGuard\PSGuard.exe
O9 - Extra button: Microsoft AntiSpyware helper -
{D5BC2651-6A61-4542-BF7D-84D42228772C} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wldr.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Microsoft AntiSpyware helper -
{D5BC2651-6A61-4542-BF7D-84D42228772C} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wldr.dll
O9 - Extra button: Microsoft AntiSpyware helper -
{D5BC2651-6A61-4542-BF7D-84D42228772C} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wldr.dll
(HKCU)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Microsoft AntiSpyware helper -
{D5BC2651-6A61-4542-BF7D-84D42228772C} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wldr.dll
(HKCU)


Delete any other malware files not associated with the smitfraud variants
and SpySheriff.


Open the smithrem folder, then double click the RunThis.bat file to start
the tool. Follow the prompts on screen. Your desktop and icons will
disappear and then reappear again --- this is normal.
Wait for the tool to complete and Disk Cleanup to finish --- this may take
a while; please be patient.

Next, run Ad-aware and perform a full scan. Remove everything found.

Now open Ewido Security Suite
Click on Scanner
Click on Complete System Scan and the scan will begin.
NOTE: During some scans with ewido it is finding cases of false positives.
You will need to step through the process of cleaning files one-by-one. If
ewido detects a file you KNOW to be legitimate, select none as the action.
DO NOT select "Perform action on all infections"
When the scan is finished, click the Save report button at the bottom of
the screen.
Save the report to your desktop
Close Ewido

Next go to Start -> Control Panel, click Display -> Desktop -> Customize
Desktop -> Web -> Uncheck "Security Info" if present.


Restart your computer in normal mode.

Run Panda's online virus scan and perform a full system scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm .
Make sure the Autoclean box is checked!

Finally, restart your computer once more, and please post a new HijackThis
log as well as the log from the Ewido scan and the log from the smitRem
tool, which will be located at C:\smitfiles.txt.
Let me know if any problems persist.



Please Note: You may not find every file listed as you state you have
already removed some of the smithfraud files.

--


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NEW Embedded system W/Linux. We now sell DVR cards.
See it all at http://www.seedsv.com/products.htm
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[Fitz]

I'm not a newbie either...but I once was and I started with computers in
1970 (probably before you were born). I find that I can still learn by
visiting these newsgroups and in turn, maybe help some folks with their
problems. Most of the folks who contribute to these newsgroups enjoy
sharing their knowledge with the folks who've got a problem.

I also found your reply (below) to a post in another newsgroup:

"None of the regulars around here believes anything you say. Anyone can
fool a noob or two occasionally, even you, but that doesn't change the
fact, that you don't have any of the regular posters' respect, and as a
group there is hardly anything we all can agree on, except that you are
a useless piece of sh*t."

So you seem to believe that "Anyone can fool a noob or two occasionally...".
My point exactly.

--
***
NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the
developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the
most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party
who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission.
***

 

[Leythos]

$$ Learned HOW? Us older people learned nothing about computers in school.
You sound like a real pompous ass to me.

Speak for yourself, I was programming on school computers in the 70's.

 

[kurttrail]

I'm not a newbie either...but I once was and I started with computers
in 1970 (probably before you were born).

LOL! And you think you have met me!

I find that I can still
learn by visiting these newsgroups and in turn, maybe help some folks
with their problems. Most of the folks who contribute to these
newsgroups enjoy sharing their knowledge with the folks who've got a
problem.

Yeah, so. I enjoy lighting fires under people's asses, motivating them
to really learn, rather than just getting someone to had them answers on
a silver platter, time and time again.

I also found your reply (below) to a post in another newsgroup:

"None of the regulars around here believes anything you say. Anyone
can fool a noob or two occasionally, even you, but that doesn't
change the fact, that you don't have any of the regular posters'
respect, and as a group there is hardly anything we all can agree on,
except that you are a useless piece of sh*t."

IIRC, that was said to a dumb schmuck, pcbutthead, who continually
solicits HJT logs in XP.GEN, which is a group that this thread is
cross-posted to.

So you seem to believe that "Anyone can fool a noob or two
occasionally...". My point exactly.

There is a sucker born every milli-second. Most suckers are
self-created though, like the "high-level pro" OP, and are more
deserving of ridicule than of having their hand held.

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[kurttrail]

-----BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-----
Message-type: plaintext



Ye do greately err,

Mark 12:27

sense is anything but common.

Only because scum like to enable fools by holding their hands all the
time.

and you are a turd.

LOL! So?

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[Howard Brazee]

That's more than one computer per household.

Sure. And I didn't mention how many computers we have (which is more
than 6 computers). The quote wasn't "Most people in the western
world do not have access to computers".

Western Europe, US and Canada.

My experience is limited, but it seems unlikely that most people here
who have access to computers do not have access to them outside of
work.

 

[kurttrail]

Sure. And I didn't mention how many computers we have (which is more
than 6 computers). The quote wasn't "Most people in the western
world do not have access to computers".

LOL! Having a computer in the home in which you live is good enough for
me.

I grew up in a one TV home. I wouldn't consider that I grew up not
having a TV just because I didn't have my own personal TV.

My experience is limited, but it seems unlikely that most people here
who have access to computers do not have access to them outside of
work.

What does that have to do with the Western World being Western Europe,
US and Canada.


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[Alias]

LOL! Having a computer in the home in which you live is good enough for
me.

I grew up in a one TV home. I wouldn't consider that I grew up not having
a TV just because I didn't have my own personal TV.


What does that have to do with the Western World being Western Europe, US
and Canada.

You're not including New Zealand and Australia? How about Japan?

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

You're not including New Zealand and Australia? How about Japan?

Alias

Nope. There part of the Eastern World.

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[Howard Brazee]

What does that have to do with the Western World being Western Europe,
US and Canada.

Only that I can't speak for outside of my experience.

I'm unwilling to accept as gospel what one person posts on this medium
without further evidence something that goes against my personal
experience though.

 

[Bob I]

That is a wise method of dealing with the "new found publishing ability"
afforded by (and abused on )the internet.

 

[Fitz]

If, in your "experience, people need to get some negative reinforcement to
get them off their lazy asses", you believe that to be true, perhaps you
should socialize and interact with people who don't need that.
--
***
NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the
developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the
most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party
who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission.
***

 

[kurttrail]

Only that I can't speak for outside of my experience.

I'm unwilling to accept as gospel what one person posts on this medium
without further evidence something that goes against my personal
experience though.

So does that mean that I grew up without a TV, just because we only had
one TV in a household of four people?

How does you purposeful ignorance answer that one?

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[kurttrail]

If, in your "experience, people need to get some negative
reinforcement to get them off their lazy asses", you believe that to
be true, perhaps you should socialize and interact with people who
don't need that.

I do. But then again most of my friends aren't lazy fools that infect
their computers with spyware, and then look for someone else to hand
them the answer to their self-created problem on a silver platter, like
the OP.

If one of my friends, being a high-level pro, acted like the OP, then
they would get the same negative reinforcement, actually they probably
would get much worse.

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[remailer]

-----BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-----
Message-type: plaintext

--
***
NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the
developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the
most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party
who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission.
***

and THEN make double sure that they're pgp signed by the author(s) and that said
signatures actually verify.

Sounds like Smithfraud. Here is my canned answer and fix for that issue.

Windows XP/2K (includes Ewido)

You may want to print out or make a copy of these instructions before
starting, because you will not be able to connect to the internet during
most of this fix.

Please download smithrem.zip and save it to your desktop
http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/smithrem.zip Right click on the file and
extract it to its own folder on the desktop.

Please download, install, and update the free version of Ewido Security
Suite:
When installing, under "Additional Options" uncheck "Install background
guard" and "Install scan via context menu"
http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/ewidosetup.exe .

From the main Ewido screen, click on update in the left menu, then click
the Start update button.
After the update finishes, the status bar at the bottom will display
"Update successful"
Exit Ewido. DO NOT run a scan yet.

If you do not already have Ad-Aware SE 1.06 installed, download
http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/aawsepersonal.exe Again, do NOT run a scan
yet.


Next, please reboot your computer in Safe Mode by doing the following:
Restart your computer
After hearing your computer beep once during startup, but before the
Windows icon appears, press F8.
Instead of Windows loading as normal, a menu should appear
Select the first option, to run Windows in Safe Mode.
Now scan with HJT http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads/HijackThis.zip and
place a checkmark next to each of the following items:

R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/search.php?qq=%1 R1 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/bar.html R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer\Main,Search Page = http:://www.quicknavigate.com/search.php?qq=%1 R1 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/search.php?qq=%1 R1 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/search.php?qq=%1 R1 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,(Default) =
http:://www.quicknavigate.com/search.php?qq=%1 R0 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page
=http:://www.quicknavigate.com/ R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = about:blank R1 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL =
http:://www.startsearches.net/search.php?qq=%1 R1 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
http:://www.startsearches.net/bar.html R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer\Main,Search Page = http:://www.startsearches.net/search.php?qq=%1 R1 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
http:://www.startsearches.net/search.php?qq=%1 R1 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
http:://www.startsearches.net/search.php?qq=%1 R1 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\SearchURL,(Default) =
http:://www.startsearches.net/search.php?qq=%1 R0 -
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Local Page =
http:://www.startsearches.net/ O2 - BHO: VMHomepage Class -
{FFFFFFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\hp6DD8.tmp
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [WindowsFY] c:\wp.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [WindowsFY] c:\bsw.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WindowsFZ] C:\WINDOWS\ZLOADER3.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Security iGuard] C:\Program Files\Security
iGuard\Security iGuard.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PSGuard] C:\Program Files\PSGuard\PSGuard.exe
O9 - Extra button: Microsoft AntiSpyware helper -
{D5BC2651-6A61-4542-BF7D-84D42228772C} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wldr.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Microsoft AntiSpyware helper -
{D5BC2651-6A61-4542-BF7D-84D42228772C} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wldr.dll
O9 - Extra button: Microsoft AntiSpyware helper -
{D5BC2651-6A61-4542-BF7D-84D42228772C} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wldr.dll
(HKCU)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Microsoft AntiSpyware helper -
{D5BC2651-6A61-4542-BF7D-84D42228772C} - C:\WINDOWS\System32\wldr.dll
(HKCU)


Delete any other malware files not associated with the smitfraud variants
and SpySheriff.


Open the smithrem folder, then double click the RunThis.bat file to start
the tool. Follow the prompts on screen. Your desktop and icons will
disappear and then reappear again --- this is normal.
Wait for the tool to complete and Disk Cleanup to finish --- this may take
a while; please be patient.

Next, run Ad-aware and perform a full scan. Remove everything found.

Now open Ewido Security Suite
Click on Scanner
Click on Complete System Scan and the scan will begin.
NOTE: During some scans with ewido it is finding cases of false positives.
You will need to step through the process of cleaning files one-by-one. If
ewido detects a file you KNOW to be legitimate, select none as the action.
DO NOT select "Perform action on all infections"
When the scan is finished, click the Save report button at the bottom of
the screen.
Save the report to your desktop
Close Ewido

Next go to Start -> Control Panel, click Display -> Desktop -> Customize
Desktop -> Web -> Uncheck "Security Info" if present.


Restart your computer in normal mode.

Run Panda's online virus scan and perform a full system scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm .
Make sure the Autoclean box is checked!

Finally, restart your computer once more, and please post a new HijackThis
log as well as the log from the Ewido scan and the log from the smitRem
tool, which will be located at C:\smitfiles.txt.
Let me know if any problems persist.



Please Note: You may not find every file listed as you state you have
already removed some of the smithfraud files.

--


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NEW Embedded system W/Linux. We now sell DVR cards.
See it all at http://www.seedsv.com/products.htm
Sharpvision simply the best http://www.seedsv.com

This one doesn't seem to be affecting things too much EXCEPT
that I now have a wallpaper that won't go away. It's a blood-
red screen with a black area in the middle with "DANGER: SPYWARE"
flashing in huge red letters. Then it goes on to tell me how
I can pay them extortion money (my words not theirs) "for as
low as $49.95" to get rid of the shit. My homepage had also
been replaced by a warning from them, that I was being watched, along with
listing my DNS etc. etc. (I think I've gotten rid of that problem, but the
wallpaper I haven't been able to.)

All this crap started yesterday after very briefly visiting
an adult site. I wish they all had one neck and my hands
were around it. It'll stop when these scum start being sent
to prison for doing this. I've run HijackThis and Spybot, and have of course
tried to change my wallpaper, but of course they've covered that and I can't
override what they've done. Not yet anyway. Anybody know about this one and
what to do to solve it? Thanks a bunch.

-----END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-----

 

[remailer]

-----BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-----
Message-type: plaintext

LOL! And you think you have met me!


Yeah, so. I enjoy lighting fires under people's asses, motivating them
to really learn, rather than just getting someone to had them answers on
a silver platter, time and time again.

the problem is that someday you are going to motivate someone to get a
shotgun and blow your farking head off.

I suggest you meditate on the concept of honey vs vinegar as attractants.

IIRC, that was said to a dumb schmuck, pcbutthead, who continually
solicits HJT logs in XP.GEN, which is a group that this thread is
cross-posted to.


There is a sucker born every milli-second. Most suckers are
self-created though, like the "high-level pro" OP, and are more
deserving of ridicule than of having their hand held.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

-----END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-----

 

[kurttrail]

the problem is that someday you are going to motivate someone to get a
shotgun and blow your farking head off.

LOL! I doubt that, unless you are making a veiled threat. Are you? Is
that your reason for posting through an anonymous remailer?

I suggest you meditate on the concept of honey vs vinegar as
attractants.

Was I the person begging for help? Nope. But I am the person in this
thread that has recieved the most replies, so you might want to do a
little meditating yourself.

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"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"