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i keep meaning to ask...i'm so old and out of date!

what does rofl stand for? and not the "fft" definition. ;^)


| Big LOL.
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| ;-))
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Hi Steve,

ROFL is
Rolling on floor laughing

ROFLMAO is
Rolling on floor laughing my ass off

Herfried, bless 'im, can't swear so he uses ROFLM*O ;-)

Is that what you were asking because I'm not sure what an 'fft' definition
would be? (though I now know fft is food for thought).

And you had a fine collection
otf (is that Oh that's funny ?)

But these ones, lol - it sounded like you were talking through gritted
teeth
TMFAQ in this NG! RTFM people.

I've worked out
The most FAQ
but what's RTFM ? Really tedious for most?

Regards,
Fergus
 
i thought that's what that meant! didn't have a clue about mao though. but,
yeah i was asking to make sure...and making fun of earlier joke of what
'fft' could mean.

i s/h...errr...should have made that one tmfaqs. the most frequently asked
questions. rtfm comes from years of questions like "how can i add data to
access using..." in the vb6.gen.discuss. group. it means read the fu*king
manual. i do grit my teeth sometimes - this instance not withstanding. it
erks me no end when ctl+alt+f3 in the ide and one or two key words like 'add
records' (or whatever fits the context) would produce wonderous results. i
only rtfm if i'm pretty certain they have the fascilities to do so but take
the lazy route.

btw, i figured out the web (not attachment) posting and put the code snippet
in the op thread. anyway, the logic was on the money.

ok...i'm actually going to bed now...it's almost 2 a.m. for me.

steve

| Hi Steve,
|
| ROFL is
| Rolling on floor laughing
|
| ROFLMAO is
| Rolling on floor laughing my ass off
|
| Herfried, bless 'im, can't swear so he uses ROFLM*O ;-)
|
| Is that what you were asking because I'm not sure what an 'fft'
definition
| would be? (though I now know fft is food for thought).
|
| And you had a fine collection
| otf (is that Oh that's funny ?)
|
| But these ones, lol - it sounded like you were talking through gritted
| teeth
| TMFAQ in this NG! RTFM people.
|
| I've worked out
| The most FAQ
| but what's RTFM ? Really tedious for most?
|
| Regards,
| Fergus
|
|
 
* "steve said:
no...what do you suggest?
Click to expand...

If I were you I would stop discussing with Fergus. It doesn't make sens
and sooner or later he will start to spam instead of stopping the
discussion when it gets OT.
 
* "steve said:
i'll try a different format...the ">" pushes the text over the 76 character
wrap limit on long lines so maybe that will help the sometimes weird
formatted quotes...i can't imagine that would fuel a flamed debate though.
anyway, i'll keep harrassing you. ;^) and, thanks for the mutual
compliments.
Click to expand...

You can use tools like "OE Quotefix" (have a Google search on that) to
correct the wrapped lines automatically. The tool is really easy to
install and it will help you creating standard-compliant posts which can
be read by all people in the newsgroups.

Do not use non-standard quoting characters. This will annoy most people
who read the posts and will cause much bigger problems when reading or
quoting the text.

You are welcome!
 
* "steve said:
i keep meaning to ask...i'm so old and out of date!

what does rofl stand for? and not the "fft" definition. ;^) [...]
| Big LOL.
|
| ;-))
|
|
Click to expand...

Notice that using the "|" quoting character is _tolerated_ because all
newsreaders can handle it properly but it will not avoid the wrapping
problems with Outlook Express.
 
yeah, i only saw 3 options in oe on quote characters...i wish quoted
wrapping would be more intuitive. it is just as important to be able to
*read* a quote as it is to include one sometimes...the aim of both is the
same.

cheers,

steve


| * "steve" <[email protected]> scripsit:
| > i keep meaning to ask...i'm so old and out of date!
| >
| > what does rofl stand for? and not the "fft" definition. ;^) [...]
| > | >| Big LOL.
| >|
| >| ;-))
| >|
| >|
|
| Notice that using the "|" quoting character is _tolerated_ because all
| newsreaders can handle it properly but it will not avoid the wrapping
| problems with Outlook Express.
|
| --
| Herfried K. Wagner
| MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
| <http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>
 
* "steve said:
yeah, i only saw 3 options in oe on quote characters...i wish quoted
wrapping would be more intuitive. it is just as important to be able to
*read* a quote as it is to include one sometimes...the aim of both is the
same.
Click to expand...

I agree. The quote bug of OE will cause wrapped quoted lines. As
mentioned before, you can wrap the code by hand or use tools like OE
quotefix to do that automatically.
 
yeah...i read the quotefix post after i sent this reply. thanks for the
heads-up...i'll try it out.

steve


| * "steve" <[email protected]> scripsit:
| > yeah, i only saw 3 options in oe on quote characters...i wish quoted
| > wrapping would be more intuitive. it is just as important to be able to
| > *read* a quote as it is to include one sometimes...the aim of both is
the
| > same.
|
| I agree. The quote bug of OE will cause wrapped quoted lines. As
| mentioned before, you can wrap the code by hand or use tools like OE
| quotefix to do that automatically.
|
| --
| Herfried K. Wagner
| MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
| <http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>
 
Hi Herfried,

As is so often the case, you answer a question that has not been asked.
[pokes out tongue]

Steve was referring to whether the previous 'conversation' between us was
worth persuing. As I stated, it's quality is low and juvenile, so the answer
is no.

In a couple of days/weeks we can both look back on all this and think
differently (about our <own> behaviour, not the other's). I hope you learn
something about <yourself> from all this.

Regards,
Fergus
 
* (e-mail address removed) (Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]) scripsit:
Do not use non-standard quoting characters. This will annoy most people
who read the posts and will cause much bigger problems when reading or
quoting the text.
Click to expand...

I learned a lot about the ignorance of some people, but as stated
previously, that's not topic of this group. I tried to send you an
email yesterday on this topic but your address didn't work. Please post
using a valid address in future.
 
this thread looks longer than the roots of a 1K year old redwood! i think
it's about time to stop fertilizing and let it whither away.

fft,

steve

| * (e-mail address removed) (Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]) scripsit:
| > Do not use non-standard quoting characters. This will annoy most people
| > who read the posts and will cause much bigger problems when reading or
| > quoting the text.
|
| I learned a lot about the ignorance of some people, but as stated
| previously, that's not topic of this group. I tried to send you an
| email yesterday on this topic but your address didn't work. Please post
| using a valid address in future.
|
| --
| Herfried K. Wagner
| MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
| <http://www.mvps.org/dotnet>
 
Hi Herfried,

Although replying to yourself, I assume that you mean me.

Thank you. I have my two email addresses mixed up and the result certainly
doesn't work.

The ISP one (don't use) is (e-mail address removed) and the web-based is...

No, on second thoughts, I'll leave it for a few days. You are still very
raw from last night.

You have a desperate need to have the last word. This was shown by the
fact that you kept on posting rather than simply stopping and letting it
wither (as Steve suggests now). That is why your accusations of me being a
spammer are so ridiculous, LOL.

I thwarted your desire to have the last word which was very cruel of me,
I'm sure.

In a discussion with an adult I will behave as an adult. In a brawl with a
child (a real child) I will behave in a parental manner. With adult-sized
children (that's you) I will behave equally childishly.

The difference is that yours is not controlled while mine is. I get fun
out it that way but you find yours distressing. Yours is deadly serious, mine
is serious but playful.

At the moment I expect nothing more than emotion from you. I don't need to
hear this, Herfried, I know how you feel. You're having a very unpleasant
weekend so far and.seeing my name in posts, let alone reading my words is very
provoking. You think I've been stupid, uncaring (of yourself and others),
childish, ignorant, and a whole host of other words that can be applied to
both of us.

As I stated earlier, I am aware of this in me - it was my choice. You,
however, have been mostly ignorant of how reactive you are, driven by needs of
which you are mostly unaware, and are certainly blind to your own behaviour.
You think that you are purely in the right, and that I'm the evil one.

You can have my email address in a few days. If you had sent me an email
last night, I'm afraid I would have deleted it. Any words that you have for me
at the moment would make a lot of sense from an emotional perspective but
little enough otherwise. (This is indicated by you 'correcting' me after
giving some perfectly sound advice to Joe).

Strangely enough, and despite appearances to the contrary, this discussion
through all its twists, has been conducted, in part, as lessons for you. I
hope you learn something about <yourself> from this is due course. I do
actually believe that this will be the case and that you will be stronger for
it. [But not yet!!]. My congratulations if you've actually been able to read
this far. ;-)

Regards,
Fergus

I'm aware that you will not receive these words with any accuracy. Perhaps
later (in a few weeks) we can discuss this period in a different manner.
 
* "Fergus Cooney said:
What's the address?

The answer is in the post

Read it

Or don't
Click to expand...

Your post is useless, you didn't mention your mail address. As long as
you don't want to mention it, further discussion doesn't make sense.
Please don't reply to this post, instead write me an email. A reply
will annoy people here. Thanks!
 
Herfried,

|| I tried to stop a "spammer" but as you can see he posted
|| about 20 equal messages.

LOL. I posted exact copies of the message that you had only just
<repeatedly> posted to me.

|| A spammer tried to annoy people in this group yesterday.

If it was spam, then there were two spammers.

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|| This behavior cannot be tolerated any more because lots
|| of visitors will be annoyed by the large amount of OT discussion

If any visitors ventured into that thread and stayed, it was because they
chose to do so. A largley OT thread is very noticable.

Unlike a maze. it is very easy to get out of.

=====================================
|| This behavior cannot be tolerated any more because lots

Your intolerance of people is well noted within this community. Many
people would like you to stop imposing rules upon them. many people find your
insistence upon rules to be a waste of their time.

=====================================
|| If he will continue spamming, I will make s spam report to prevent
|| him from annoying the members of the community.

<Us> Herfried,. Own your behaviour. You did what you did and I did what I
did. I didn't force you to make a single post towards me. But you just had to
keep on 'spamming' didn't you? That was your choice Herfried - your bahaviour.

I think we probably bored many people to death, amused some and annoyed
some.

I think that there would have been more upset of a different nature to
annoyance. Cor, for example is disturbed by our dispute but there is not much
annoyance and irritation. I would think he has large elements of concern,
perhaps even sadness, and certainly a wish for peace.

=====================================
|| If he will continue spamming, I will make s spam report to
|| prevent him from annoying the members of the community.

|| I will make an abuse report if he contunues spamming.

And I will have you in court for libel/slander/defamation of character.

=====================================
|| I stopped trying to integrate the spammer into the community,

ROFL. How were you trying to 'integrate' this 'spammer' into the
community?

=====================================

|| If he will continue spamming, I will make s spam report to
|| prevent him from annoying the members of the community.

|| I will make an abuse report if he contunues spamming.

|| I stopped trying to integrate the spammer into the community,

Ok. Objectivity out the window for this one.

For a small boy, you seem to have an awfully big head.

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|| Fergus is not able to cope with criticism.

Sometimes I can. Sometimes not. It depends on who and how and other
factors.
Criticisms based on emotional reasoning tend to be rejected.

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|| He always wants to have the last word...

You are angry because I wouldn't let you have the last word. I could have
but I didn't.. You can't let that go because - Herfried always wants to have
the last word. This can be seen in many threads going back a long time. It is
a noticable aspect of your personality.

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|| I am waiting for Fergus to come back.
|| Now he preferrs to stand outside the community.
|| He doesn't want to be part of the community.
|| He has chosen to stand outside it.
|| I am sure he knows that he is welcome,

I am already here and very much <in> the community.
I am already very welcome
I play a major part in this community.
This community plays a major part in my life at present.

This 'standing outside the community' crap of yours (if it has any
meaning) was true for both of us during the brawl.

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|| he [Fergus] needs some more time to change his habits.

|| he won't change his habits.

By definition, habits require time to change. If they don't require time
then they are not habits.

I am very aware of many of my habits. A lot of my behaviour is chosen, not
habitual. I am very reflective and considerate of what I do. This is, in fact,
a major habit of mine and can cause problems when I think too much about
something. However, if I had chosen to be reactive, like yourself, I would
have said many things that I would now regret.

What habits do <you> need to examine Herfried?
What do <you> need to change?
What are your lessons about <yourself>?
What do <you> need to learn?

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What you are doing at the moment is called projection.
Make your accusations at the mirror.

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|| I now know that it would have been better not to try to talk
|| with Fergus about things he doesn't know anything about.

I will continue to talk to Herfried aboiut things he doesn't know anything
about. It's difficult due to his seeming ability to understand. ..

|| Maybe he will understand my arguments in some years,
|| I hope that.

... but I have every expectation that he will understand as he matures.

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|| I tried to send him an email but his email address was invalid.

That was a mistake but I shall withold it until you have calmed down.

Fergus
 
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