Wes said:
Well, since the coffee was used for something other than what it was
intended for it doesn't matter who sold it to you, as the person that
caused the acident would be liable for any damage. Not the person that
sold the coffee to you, the pubic water works for providing the water
since they know it can be used dangerously if heated, the maker of the cup
since they know it's made to hold a dangerous substance. Maybe the auto
companys since you were in their vehicles and they didn't warn you not to
drink hot coffee in the car. Now, just how ****ing stupid are you?
And I suppose you know what temps all the little coffee shops around the
US sell their coffee at?
Nope, but I do remember that at the time of the first
McDonald's hot coffee lawsuit there was evidence filed
showing that at 181'F the McDonald's coffee was more than
20'F hotter than what was sold by anyone else in that city.
And on top of that, it doesn't matter IMO. Hot is hot.
That's bullshit and you know it. The degree of
hotness makes a huge difference. Hotter coffee has
both more energy to transfer to the skin and a
higher thermal transfer rate.
Would you jump into a bathtub filled with 160F hot water> How about
130FF. The 160F would scold you. And the 130F would come close to it
160'F water can scald if the exposure is long enough.
A scolding would have to come from some other source.
With a typical coffee spill the exposure is NOT long
enough. At 180'F there is both a lot more energy in the
coffee and the thermal transfer rate -
The hot water out of my kitchen tap is 160'F. It
stings when I am rinsing dishes after washing them,
but it is easy to live with when you know it is only
for a second or two at a time.
I have been in a 53'C hot tub a few times - about 127'F.
However, I can't take that for more than a minute or two
unless the hot tub is outdoors on a nice cold -30'C night.
Not painful at all except when you periodically dunk your
head to get rid of the ice that builds up in your hair.
Quite exhilarating. People who are used to it - such as
the owners of said hot tub - can take it for twenty minutes.
Don't like it? You don't have to buy it. Seems simple enough to me.
S'matter of fact I don't buy McDonald's coffee anymore -
not since what should have been a non-event ordinary
coffee spill put blisters on my hand that lasted two weeks.
No, but you don't sue the person that sold you the coffee. You sue the
person that bumped you. If someone driving a Chevy hits your car and
causes damage, do you sue chevy for allowing this person to drive a car
it made. Rediculous, just like everything else you've said.
I didn't propose that anyone sue anyone else.
The only point I've been trying to make is that 180'F is
incredibly stupid for coffee. It exposes the customers -
and the servers, for that matter - to the risk of
unnecessarily severe burns when accidents happen as they
inevitably will. And nobody has posted anything yet that
suggests that there are any benefits to 180'F coffee that
come close to justifying the risks.
