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Norman Peelman
Arend said:
If he can't boot a LiveCD then how do you expect him to do anything else?
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Linux Mint: great splash screen...but won't work. Sticking withWindows XP.
If he can't boot a LiveCD then how do you expect him to do anything else?
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Norman Peelman
RayLopez99 said:Thank you David Brown. This is the kind of knowledge that brings me
back to Usenet. No need to reply to the other thread, as I've seen
your answer here. I think you are onto something. Indeed I think
PPPoE is being used by OteNet--it sounds very very third world and
therefore very Greek. The OTENET ISP people don't advertise it as
such, as their adverts all say "DSL" or "ADSL" but you're probably
right. If I ask the 'technicians' here they are very lame and likely
will not give me any sort of answer, to the extent they even know what
they are talking about. Therefore, it seems that my failure to
connect to the Net is--perhaps, see also next paragraph-- not a Linux
problem as much as an ISP problem. Since this might be the case, I
will reserve judgement on Linux until I get back to the USA (where the
target machine is anyway) and try a LiveCD bootup from there. If that
fails, I'll try and find this thread and post again. Once again,
thanks for the tip. What you say sounds very plausible.
If there's a way in Windows (for you Windows gurus reading this far)
to find out whether your internet connection is 'straight Ethernet' or
"PPPoE" please let me know and I can check to see if indeed I am
running PPPoE. BTW, I don't know if this helps in your analysis, but
about two months ago (as COLA members know) I did install Puppy Linux
onto a Pentium II (yes a two!) with very limited RAM (124 MB?
something very ridiculously small) and it worked. Then--and people at
COLA know this--from inside Puppy Linux I used Firefox to post to the
net using the very SpeedTouch modem that failed today. (I used a Asus
hub/switch to link the two computers, one the Linux the other the
present Windows XP, to the same Speedtouch DSL modem). So--I ask you
now--if using Puppy I was able to connect to the internet, why not
with Mint LiveCD? The only thing I can think of is that when I
configured Puppy to connect--I don't know what it was exactly but I do
remember some dialog box came up--that somehow I must have clicked on
"PPPoE" (if that was an option) and thus my Pentium II allowed me to
connect. Just a thought. Because otherwise Linux Mint is at fault,
and not my ISP provider.
....and yet another jab.
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Norman Peelman
RayLopez99 said:Well how do you explain that Windows does work with this NIC?
I will try again tomorrow (I have to reboot to do it,
It takes all night to reboot your Windows system?
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Norman Peelman
RayLopez99 said:Nope. Sorry Alias. I really did not. It's true I do troll at COLA,
but it's pretty obvious when I do so (I call people moron, etc, and
you can tell from the tone of my post it's a troll). This time though
I'm serious.
RL
.... I hear a boy crying wolf.
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Norman Peelman
RayLopez99 said:Nope. You see chrisV (dear new friends: we call him "Creepy Chris" at
COLA; I call him "Piss Angstrom" when I'm trolling) you are wrong.
And the fact you are so sure I am trolling makes me laugh at how wrong
you are. In this case, I think in fact it's a driver problem on
Linux's part. Not to say it can't be fixed. Nor that Linux sucks.
It's just one of those things. I actually would be glad to get Linux
working on LiveCD because it intrigues me that you can surf the net
off a CD (even slowly). So I'll be happy to get it to work, and
actually, once I try a few things, I think I will get it to work.
It's the loading of programs off the CD that's slow... not the actual
surfing, a-whole.
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Norman Peelman
RayLopez99 said:This is your second post along this line in just a few minutes. Let
it go. You're really not adding anything of value to this thread, but
that seems to be your MO in every thread. You retarded or what?
RL
You never started a thread with any value.
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Tattoo Vampire
boatman312 said:The problem isn't your ISP. Mint couldn't find a proper driver for your
physical ethernet port.
A bigger problem is your apparent belief that the troll GayDopehead69 was
actually posting in earnest.
--
[tv]
President and CEO, Trollus Amongus LLC
History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
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ray
This is your second post along this line in just a few minutes. Let it
go. You're really not adding anything of value to this thread, but that
seems to be your MO in every thread. You retarded or what?
RL
Whereas your posts are incredibly illuminating!
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Alias
That's OK. Some doubters also did not believe me when I tried to get
Puppy Linux running on a 15 year old Pentium II (that was running
Windows 2000). It had something like 256 MB RAM and a 2 GB HD--and I
got Puppy to run, even posting from Firefox to COLA! It was pretty
amazing. It was just an experiment. And I still bashed Linux
afterwards, but what I'm saying is that I don't lie about stuff as
much as my detractors claim. When I'm trolling you know it, not like
now. Anyway sorry about any insults earlier. Bye for now...bedtime
for bonzo it's 3: 30 AM Athens time to crash...
RL
There were no Pentium II computers in 1995, Windows 2000 was released
in, well, 2000 and Puppy was released in 2005 and you expect me to
believe you!? LOL! Pull the other one, chum, it has bells on it.
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RayLopez99
Norman
Registered Linux user #461062
AMD64X2 6400+ Ubuntu 8.04 64bit
Hey Norm--do you always speak nonsense? Or just float trial balloons
and see when they pop? No wonder they call you a "colorful
character" (to your face, you should hear what they say behind your
back).
Check the header of this message. It should show Linux Mint Firefox.
The trick: just add an Asus hub inbetween the Speedtouch DSL modem
and your computer. Don't ask me why. I should thank Oz for the idea.
RL
PS--I like Mint's interface--nice graphics, font.
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David W. Hodgins
The problem is RayLopez99.
The problem for everyone else, is that people keep replying
to him, or to threads he has started. Plonk the idiot, and
be done with it. He is a well known troll. If you insist
on feeding the troll, you will find yourself in many killfiles
along with him.
I don't care if he does come up with a serious question, as his
past activity makes it clear he doesn't deserve the help of
anyone here. He chose to burn the bridges to help throughout
usenet, and deserves to be totally ignored by everyone here.
Lately he's been getting replies in alt.comp.virus, that makes
it clear, he's a true troll, not just an anti-linux troll.
Plonk him, or be plonked along with him.
Dave Hodgins
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RayLopez99
...and yet another jab.
What you got against spiders? LOL Norm knows everything. Like his
epinomous (what? No context right click spell check in Linux Firefox?
oh well) character on the old TV series 'Cheers'.
RL
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RayLopez99
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RayLopez99
boatman312 said:The problem isn't your ISP. Mint couldn't find a proper driver for your
physical ethernet port.
A bigger problem is your apparent belief that the troll GayDopehead69 was
actually posting in earnest.
--
[tv]
President and CEO, Trollus Amongus LLC
History does not repeat itself. Historians repeat each other.
Wrong. Check the header here. You are a better troll than you are
showing now...c'mon, show us some of your wit, twit. I know you can
do it, I've seen your junk before. Not that kind of junk, gay man.
RL
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RayLopez99
There were no Pentium II computers in 1995, Windows 2000 was released
in, well, 2000 and Puppy was released in 2005 and you expect me to
believe you!? LOL! Pull the other one, chum, it has bells on it.
Check the header, shiite-->4Brains. Question: is this legal in C++?
Honestly I don't know off the top of my head. Probably not, as it
starts with a number. Doesn't follow the naming convention I use, so
it's never come up in practice.
RL
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RayLopez99
What you got against spiders? LOL Norm knows everything. Like his
epinomous (what? No context right click spell check in Linux Firefox?
oh well) character on the old TV series 'Cheers'.
Turns out Linux Mint Firefox does have right click spell-check...just
it's slow since it's running off the CD (LiveCD). Pretty nice.
RL
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Alias
Turns out Linux Mint Firefox does have right click spell-check...just
it's slow since it's running off the CD (LiveCD). Pretty nice.
RL
Oh, so now your Live CD can connect to the Internet, eh? You're not a
very good troll.
A
Alias
Check the header, shiite-->4Brains.
Not relevant.
Question: is this legal in C++?
Even less relevant.
Honestly I don't know off the top of my head. Probably not, as it
starts with a number. Doesn't follow the naming convention I use, so
it's never come up in practice.
RL
You're losing it. Get help.
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Aragorn
[Follow-up set to comp.os.linux.setup because I'm not subscribed to
either of the other two groups and I'm not the one who started this
cross-posted troll-baiting.]
And he's been "serious" about this project for over a year already,
re-itering the same old drivel every month or so, with the exact same
background story, and with the exact same shuffle of the goalposts, by
miraculously introducing some exotic "Works With Microsoft (tm) Windows
(tm) Only" hardware component halfway down the thread so as to have an
excuse for his "Linux sucks because it won't work for me" drivel, or by
starting out with a Pentium 4 as the target platform which then three
levels down in the thread ends up being a first generation Pentium with
32 MB of RAM and a 1 MB PCI video adapter or something.
RayLopez99 is only serious about trolling, and one of his ways of
ensuring that some people will still be naive enough to reply to
his "request for information" is that he keeps on repeating the
statement that he is serious. Perhaps he should add "... about
trolling".
If what he claims in the above-quoted snippet about only being insulting
when he's trolling is actually true, then that actually proves that he
*is* trolling, because, as I have experienced already in the past when
I myself reacted to his deliberate misinformation and "subliminal"
sneers at GNU/Linux, he has already (again) managed to insult decent
people who were honestly willing to help him in this thread (and all
previous threads on the very same subject) as well. Just look at his
replies to David Brown, who was being very helpful and earnest towards
him.
One of the obvious signs of his intent is that he included the group
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general [*] in the group list, while said
group was not involved in RayLopez99's earlier Usenet posts about "his
serious endeavor". In other words, even in his Win-trolling and
deliberate annoying of GNU/Linux users - with Hadron Quark and all the
other rabid Win-trolls from comp.os.linux.advocacy blazing in his
trail - RayLopez99 is actually also annoying a serious newsgroup
dedicated to Microsoft Windows, where the regulars are (presumably)
discussing technical issues and exchanging information, just like we
are over here.
So even as a troll, RayLopez99 is a complete failure. In fact, I
seriously doubt that he would even be able to *use* Microsoft Windows
(or Apple OS X, or BeOS, or OS/2, or AmigaOS for that matter) without
running into problems, given that, for a self-proclaimed Power User
(tm), he doesn't even know what DHCP is or what the difference is
between a router and a DSL modem.
So there you have it: an operating system with the by RayLopez so
venerated 90% desktop market share, and even *that* is something
RayLopez99 isn't capable of handling, and in the process, while he is
supposed to "advocate" Microsoft Windows, he has probably already
managed to annoy its own userbase on Usenet.
[*] My apologies to the people in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
for not having snipped the group from the list in this particular
reply of mine to this thread; I did set a follow-up, though. On
previous occasions, I have removed the group from the list, but I
think that in light of exposing the RayLopez99 troll, these people
too have the right to know how badly RayLopez99 is serving _their_
cause (and others like Hadron Quark, Moshe Goldfarb and "One Shot
One Kill" with him).
In addition to that, I would also like to make it clear to the
regulars in that group that GNU/Linux users wish Windows users
no harm. You people use Windows, we use GNU/Linux. Different
kind of operating system, and I'm sure there is enough air in the
atmosphere to allow *all* of us to breathe. Sadly enough, there
are always a number of degenerates who feel that they need to
start a war where peace would be more desirable.
GNU/Linux is not an attack on Microsoft Windows. It was never
intended to be. It is an alternative to proprietary UNIX
operating systems, and it was designed as a Free & Open Source
Software platform. There is some overlap with the functionality
or hardware base of Microsoft Windows because of the open nature
of the x86 hardware platform, but they are two totally different
systems. GNU/Linux, like UNIX proper, is not for everyone, but
then again, neither is Microsoft Windows. Some people buy 4x4
vehicles, others prefer a sedan/saloon, and yet others prefer
driving vans or motorbikes. It's all a matter of taste and what
suits you best. To each their own, etc.
Win-trolls are not Windows advocates. They are bullies who
project the frustration over their lack of intelligence on the
operating system which happened to confront them with it, i.e.
GNU/Linux. Win-trolls have no ethics, and I would dare say no
sanity either. If it weren't for both GNU/Linux and Windows,
then these people would have found some other way to annoy their
fellow human beings. Soccer teams, politics, religion, plenty
of choices. They would have found _something_ either way,
because for them the subject matter is only the means to an end,
and that end, is to bully.
either of the other two groups and I'm not the one who started this
cross-posted troll-baiting.]
... I hear a boy crying wolf.
And he's been "serious" about this project for over a year already,
re-itering the same old drivel every month or so, with the exact same
background story, and with the exact same shuffle of the goalposts, by
miraculously introducing some exotic "Works With Microsoft (tm) Windows
(tm) Only" hardware component halfway down the thread so as to have an
excuse for his "Linux sucks because it won't work for me" drivel, or by
starting out with a Pentium 4 as the target platform which then three
levels down in the thread ends up being a first generation Pentium with
32 MB of RAM and a 1 MB PCI video adapter or something.
RayLopez99 is only serious about trolling, and one of his ways of
ensuring that some people will still be naive enough to reply to
his "request for information" is that he keeps on repeating the
statement that he is serious. Perhaps he should add "... about
trolling".
If what he claims in the above-quoted snippet about only being insulting
when he's trolling is actually true, then that actually proves that he
*is* trolling, because, as I have experienced already in the past when
I myself reacted to his deliberate misinformation and "subliminal"
sneers at GNU/Linux, he has already (again) managed to insult decent
people who were honestly willing to help him in this thread (and all
previous threads on the very same subject) as well. Just look at his
replies to David Brown, who was being very helpful and earnest towards
him.
One of the obvious signs of his intent is that he included the group
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general [*] in the group list, while said
group was not involved in RayLopez99's earlier Usenet posts about "his
serious endeavor". In other words, even in his Win-trolling and
deliberate annoying of GNU/Linux users - with Hadron Quark and all the
other rabid Win-trolls from comp.os.linux.advocacy blazing in his
trail - RayLopez99 is actually also annoying a serious newsgroup
dedicated to Microsoft Windows, where the regulars are (presumably)
discussing technical issues and exchanging information, just like we
are over here.
So even as a troll, RayLopez99 is a complete failure. In fact, I
seriously doubt that he would even be able to *use* Microsoft Windows
(or Apple OS X, or BeOS, or OS/2, or AmigaOS for that matter) without
running into problems, given that, for a self-proclaimed Power User
(tm), he doesn't even know what DHCP is or what the difference is
between a router and a DSL modem.
So there you have it: an operating system with the by RayLopez so
venerated 90% desktop market share, and even *that* is something
RayLopez99 isn't capable of handling, and in the process, while he is
supposed to "advocate" Microsoft Windows, he has probably already
managed to annoy its own userbase on Usenet.
[*] My apologies to the people in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
for not having snipped the group from the list in this particular
reply of mine to this thread; I did set a follow-up, though. On
previous occasions, I have removed the group from the list, but I
think that in light of exposing the RayLopez99 troll, these people
too have the right to know how badly RayLopez99 is serving _their_
cause (and others like Hadron Quark, Moshe Goldfarb and "One Shot
One Kill" with him).
In addition to that, I would also like to make it clear to the
regulars in that group that GNU/Linux users wish Windows users
no harm. You people use Windows, we use GNU/Linux. Different
kind of operating system, and I'm sure there is enough air in the
atmosphere to allow *all* of us to breathe. Sadly enough, there
are always a number of degenerates who feel that they need to
start a war where peace would be more desirable.
GNU/Linux is not an attack on Microsoft Windows. It was never
intended to be. It is an alternative to proprietary UNIX
operating systems, and it was designed as a Free & Open Source
Software platform. There is some overlap with the functionality
or hardware base of Microsoft Windows because of the open nature
of the x86 hardware platform, but they are two totally different
systems. GNU/Linux, like UNIX proper, is not for everyone, but
then again, neither is Microsoft Windows. Some people buy 4x4
vehicles, others prefer a sedan/saloon, and yet others prefer
driving vans or motorbikes. It's all a matter of taste and what
suits you best. To each their own, etc.
Win-trolls are not Windows advocates. They are bullies who
project the frustration over their lack of intelligence on the
operating system which happened to confront them with it, i.e.
GNU/Linux. Win-trolls have no ethics, and I would dare say no
sanity either. If it weren't for both GNU/Linux and Windows,
then these people would have found some other way to annoy their
fellow human beings. Soccer teams, politics, religion, plenty
of choices. They would have found _something_ either way,
because for them the subject matter is only the means to an end,
and that end, is to bully.
D
Dominique
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Very interesting, thanks. How do you know if your ISP is using
PPPoE? BTW I think David Brown was saying Linux has problems w/
LiveCD with PPPoE (You have to configure it), not that Windows does.
RL
I know my provider uses PPPoE because I must choose PPPoE in the "modem"
configuration page and I think DSLs connections that use usernames and
passwords are always PPPoE
You always have to configure PPPoE because you must at least enter
username and password, I guess with a liveCD, it would be at every boot
and with a permanent HD installation you do it once.