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Guest
Is MailWasher any good?
S
Sir_George
Stan,
My personal opinion; it is very good.
My personal opinion; it is very good.
J
Juergen Nieveler
For cleaning out large amounts of spam before downloading your normal
mail: Yes.
But stay away from the "Fake Bounce"-feature, that's rubbish.
Juergen Nieveler
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Jeff Cook
Hi Stan
MailWasher is a Godsend. It is basically just a cut-down mail client that
lets you preview what's on the mail server. To actually get your mail, you
still need a "real" email client such as the fine offerings from that
upstanding Microsoft Corporation. It does Hotmail as well as POP, although
I only use POP email so I can't tell you how it goes when you use it with
Hotmail.
With MailWasher you can delete and bounce emails while they are still on the
server, and set up fairly complex rules to try to eliminate crap. It can
also interrogate SPAM databases to flag or delete mail from known SPAM
sources. That part needs to be used carefully however, as some legitimate
addresses and domains can end up in the SPAM database in error.
It's was really good when I was getting enormous amounts of those "mail
failure" emails with virus attachments a few months ago. You can see the
text and the email size, and even preview the whole message if you want.
You can also see the names of any attachments. If it's something nasty, you
can clobber the email without it ever coming near your PC.
There is a 30 day free trial version that you can download from
http://www.firetrust.com. I highly recommend it.
Jeff
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Juergen Nieveler
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You know that M$ could sue you for abusing their domain name?
Thus confirming to the spammer that your email address works.
Mailwasher-bounces can easily be distinguished from real bounces.
Sending fake bounce messages only makes you unpopular with your mail
administrator, it doesn't reduce your spam at all (it might even
increase your spam count and adds to the amount of junk the poor guy
whose address has been abused will receive).
Juergen Nieveler
You know that M$ could sue you for abusing their domain name?
Thus confirming to the spammer that your email address works.
Mailwasher-bounces can easily be distinguished from real bounces.
Sending fake bounce messages only makes you unpopular with your mail
administrator, it doesn't reduce your spam at all (it might even
increase your spam count and adds to the amount of junk the poor guy
whose address has been abused will receive).
Juergen Nieveler
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steve
Not if you set it to bounce. It doesn't recognise fake senders so
anyone can get the bounces.
C
Corse
Is MailWasher any good?
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Not really. All it does is accumulate your email in it's program so you
can go through it and delete what you don't want. You can do the same thing
with whatever your regular email software is. I certainly wouldn't pay for
Mailwasher. What is needed is a way of intercepting spam before it ever
gets to your mail box. However, the only folks who can do that are ISPs and
they generally don't.
Corse
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Not really. All it does is accumulate your email in it's program so you
can go through it and delete what you don't want. You can do the same thing
with whatever your regular email software is. I certainly wouldn't pay for
Mailwasher. What is needed is a way of intercepting spam before it ever
gets to your mail box. However, the only folks who can do that are ISPs and
they generally don't.
Corse
J
Jeff Cook
Juergen Nieveler said:
Surely you jest, Juergen. (e-mail address removed) is the example given in
Outlook when you set up an account. I merely followed the example like I
good sheep. Hell, I'm Australian aren't I? Baaaa!
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steve
Some ISPs are using Brightmail very successfully. The ISP I use
started to use Brightmail at the start of this year. My incoming spam
immediately dropped by about 90%
Steve
C
Corse
Some ISPs are using Brightmail very successfully. The ISP I use
started to use Brightmail at the start of this year. My incoming spam
immediately dropped by about 90%
Steve
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I"m with SBC Global and they aren't didn't anything.
Corse
C
Corse
Some ISPs are using Brightmail very successfully. The ISP I use
started to use Brightmail at the start of this year. My incoming spam
immediately dropped by about 90%
Steve
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I"m with SBC Global and they aren't didn't anything.
Corse
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That should read "they aren't doing anything." Don't know where my brain
goes when I type.
Corse
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Heather
YAHOO!! This morning my ISP (Rogers in Canada) officially hooked up with
Yahoo and all spam is now marked in the subject line with [Bulk].......makes
it real easy to use a Message Rule to divert it into its own folder for
checking!!!!!
Also.....I was getting an average of 50-70 spam/porn/viruses/annoying
emails.....hardly any now.
What a relief!! I probably won't need Mailwasher any more.
I hope more ISP's get smart and put anti-spam filters on.
Cheer(ing)......Heather
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Heather
Heather said:
Forgot to mention that Rogers/Yahoo is now cleaning out viral attachments as
well......
quote.......
"Yahoo! Mail successfully cleans most infected attachments, which protects
you from viruses."
unquote.....
Working well so far. No doubt there will be the odd attachment that
shouldn't be nailed, but I am quite happy with this arrangement. This
wasn't expected until September.
HF
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Duane Arnold
The Bounce feature in Mailwasher is worthless. I have been test driving the
Pro version and I like it. It looks like I'll be replacing the free version
of MW.
Duane
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Duane Arnold
I think the spammers will be smart enough to get around that.
Duane
C
Corse
YAHOO!! This morning my ISP (Rogers in Canada) officially hooked up with
Yahoo and all spam is now marked in the subject line with [Bulk].......makes
it real easy to use a Message Rule to divert it into its own folder for
checking!!!!!
Also.....I was getting an average of 50-70 spam/porn/viruses/annoying
emails.....hardly any now.
What a relief!! I probably won't need Mailwasher any more.
I hope more ISP's get smart and put anti-spam filters on.
Cheer(ing)......Heather
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I fail to see what you are cheering about. Yahoo is re-arranging the deck
chairs while the Titanic is sinking. The spam should never get to a folder
(bulk or otherwise) where you need to "check" it.
Corse
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Bart Bailey
The pro version 4.1 operates very quickly and smooth.
With a couple simple filter rules, almost all spam and/or dangerous mail
can be accommodated without having to wait for a dnsbl query.
Create a filter against HTML or attachments (multipart) in the header,
and you'll get most of it. Add a few specialized tweaks, and you're set.
D
David W. Hodgins
I think you've missed the main feature of mailwasher. It downloads the headers,
and optionally the beginning of the message, to allow you to delete unwanted
messages at the server, without downloading the complete message.
When swen hit last September, I was losing real mail, because the inbox at my isp
was constantly filling up. The only way I was able to fix it, was to leave my
computer running 24/7, with mailwasher identifying, and deleting the swen
messages. To do this manually, with a regular email program would have required
I download/delete the swen messages, every 20 minutes, 24 hours a day.
It only took 20 minutes to fill the 10mb inbox. With my cable connection, I could
barely download/delete the messages fast enough, before I started using mailwasher.
If I were using dialup, I would not have been able to download them, as fast as they
were coming in.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
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David W. Hodgins
I just wish they would stop using spam to promote their new services. When
they first announced their new affiliation with yahoo, I unsubscribed 4 of the
5 email addresses I use, from their announcements list. So far, I've only seen
today's announcment on 2 of the addresses, both of which were unsubscribed!
Typical of rogers to give email addresses to spammers, and ignore unsubscribe
requests.
I sent a complaint to the abuse desk, and the internet support group. The
auto acknowlegment from the support desk was flagged as [Bulk], so I didn't
see it, till I skimmed my spam folder. At least their new filter properly
identifies their own mail as coming from a spammer<G>!
Regards, Dave Hodgins
C
Corse
I think you've missed the main feature of mailwasher. It downloads the
headers,
and optionally the beginning of the message, to allow you to delete unwanted
messages at the server, without downloading the complete message.
When swen hit last September, I was losing real mail, because the inbox at
my isp
was constantly filling up. The only way I was able to fix it, was to leave
my
computer running 24/7, with mailwasher identifying, and deleting the swen
messages. To do this manually, with a regular email program would have
required
I download/delete the swen messages, every 20 minutes, 24 hours a day.
It only took 20 minutes to fill the 10mb inbox. With my cable connection, I
could
barely download/delete the messages fast enough, before I started using
mailwasher.
If I were using dialup, I would not have been able to download them, as fast
as they
were coming in.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
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use in usenet. Feel free to use it yourself.)
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I don't use email that has a limit. I have SBC Global DSL. Whatever email
there is comes through. Also, since I have DSL, actually downloading email
takes almost no time at all. The real issue is keeping the stuff off the
server to begin with. I shouldn't have to be dealing with it at all.
Corse