Do you mind if I quote this at a later date?
Yep, just as long as you keep that GOOD
CHOICE OF TECHNOLOGY, claim.
I'm pretty sure there will be PATA
cards available at reasonable cost.
Separate matter entirely to your GOOD CHOICE OF TECHNOLOGY claim.
And thats a ****ed config anyway, having the boot drive
on one of those in a new system, needlessly complicated.
MUCH more viable to buy a SATA drive now and use
it as the boot drive in the new system when he gets it.
That is ridiculous.
Nope.
Cabling is a non-issue.
Wrong.
SATA cables are a little better in an esthetic sense but we can
see there is no problem at all using PATA cables and cards.
There is with a PCI Express RAID card for
PATA drives on the card design alone, let
alone the LENGTH of standard cable allowed.
I have 2 systems with two PCI PATA cards in them
currently. Cables are quite manageable if one merely
chooses the right length of cable, rounded if desirable.
No thanks, I'm not stupid enough to flout the ATA standard.
You dont need to with SATA.
... but that's exactly the case with a PATA hard drive!
Wrong.
The OP doesn't NEED addon card at all!
Yes he does, to get no constraints on what
he can choose to buy with the new system.
Rather you argue that he should get one anyway...
Yes, so he isnt crippled in his choices
at all when he buys the new system.
He can buy whatever is good value at that time and doesnt have
to give a damn about PATA drive support or free card slots etc.
so apparently the argument of built-in feature sets is
never really enough for some people, there is always
the chance a feature addition will be desirable and
after all it IS why there are slots on boards.
Yes, BUT FAR FEWER THAN THERE USED TO BE.
I have no explaination as to why you keep mentioning cables.
Yep, you havent got a clue about those basics.
Cables are trivial, very easy to install and use on PATA.
It is not an issue.
Wrong with the DESIGN OF A PCI Express
RAID CARD THAT SUPPORTS PATA DRIVES.
No technology is past it's useby date when:
A) The system supports it.
Wrong again when the support is slipping away and quite
a few new motherboards only support two PATA drives
and at least one of them will be used by the DVD burner.
B) Brand new current generation products are being sold
What matters is being able to use almost anything on offer.
That gives you much more choice on what to buy.
C) Next gen systems are expected to
support it, at least 1 channel/2 devices.
Fat lof of good that will be if you need more than that.
D) Addon cards ARE expected to be in the market,
We'll see with PCI Express RAID cards that support PATA drives.
It wouldnt surprise me if no one bothers.
as there are still the present PCI cards even if one didn't want
(or have a free slot for) the anticipated PCI Express versions.
Irrelevant WITH THE NEW SYSTEM.
SATA is slightly superior,
Its greatly superior WITH NEW SYSTEMS WHICH HAVE LOTS
OF SATA PORTS AND BUGGER ALL PATA PORTS, AT LEAST
ONE OF WHICH WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE DVD BURNER.
It isnt a slight edge, its a major advantage WITH NEW
SYSTEMS WHICH HAVE LOTS OF SATA PORTS AND
BUGGER ALL PATA PORTS, AT LEAST ONE OF
WHICH WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE DVD BURNER.
is easily outweighed by the details or costs of implementation.
Fantasy.
It is among the last things to consider unless
one simply must have a particular drive that
only comes in SATA format like a WD Raptor,
Wrong, as always.
but then if low latency is really that important
there is also SCSI if the buyer is considering a
PCI card to support whichever drive technology.
Nope, lousy value in personal desktop systems now.
"Most" just buy a whole OEM system,
Yes, but he's clearly not one of those when he
clearly plans to move that drive to the new system.
but if you are claiming they won't move stuff to their new system
No I'm not. I was just rubbing your nose in the poor market
there will be for PCI Express RAID cards for PATA drives.
then it innvalidates your entire argument about buying the SATA hard drive...
Like hell it does when he clearly wants to move that drive to the new system.
it is completely pointless if it wouldn't be moved to the new system.
Yes, but he clearly wants to move that drive to the new system.
What I was commenting on there is how much of a market the
small number of people like him will be, and that that will have
a real effect on the prospects for a decent PCI Express RAID
card that supports PATA drives. It wouldnt surprise me if there
turns out to **** all choice of those and there may not even
be one available at the time that he buys a new system.
Which is a definition,
Nope.
so your "nope" is doubly wrong.
Nope.
Quite right.
Capture some uncompressed video
while playing back another video.
Only a fool does that with an HTPC. Anyone with a clue has
digital capture cards that dont bother with uncompressed video.
I have 4 in a rather elderly 900MHz PC and I can
capture 4 channels simultaneously and play back
anything I like without that missing a beat.
HTPCs are often optimized for small size which means
they have less space for HDDs, fewer of them.
Irrelevant, they still arent demanding of the drive when done properly.
Such systems have have only one drive
Yes, as does mine.
Only a fool bothers with uncompresssed video in an HTPC.
is too bandwidth intensive to be captured to a remote
destination on a lan so a local drive has to do it.
See above.
Granted one might prefer to use lossless compression
Or get real radical and use decent modern digital TV capture cards.
That way the compression is done back in the TV station etc.
which eases the HDD performance requirement,
but either way we have a signficant data rate
No you dont, mine handles 4 of those cards fine, on a system
which has always had a less than dazzling hard drive performance,
and can play back stuff over the lan or from the hard drive fine too.
and we haven't even considered the PCI utilization of this system yet.
Its just not a problem with decent modern digital TV capture cards.
If it's such a dinosaur, the last thing that makes sense
is to spend extra money on another PCI card for it.
Wrong when that costs peanuts when you buy it from the right
source. It makes a lot of sense to get a SATA drive so that you
arent limited at all in the choice of the new system with that drive
used as the boot drive in the new system.
