Correct angle for keyboard

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Nope, they were made to coincide to the layout of the
mechanicals in more than just the letters on each key.

Wrong with the angle of the keyboard being discussed and your stupid
claim about 'more space for the mechanical portion of the typewriter'
I never said it wasn't.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
Was that just a spasm or did you mean to paste
the same thing for the 34,323 time in a row?

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
 
Trev said:
How on earth did those typists manage with three hights of keys, no wrist
pads and having to put even force behind the key's.

In those days, people who wanted to become 'clerk typists' actually went
to school to learn the craft. As part of the required course material,
ergonomic work methods were taught. These people learned what furniture
(chairs and tables etc) was best suited to the job and as well, they
were taught basic things such as correct posture and how to always use
the center of the keyboard as the rest/start point. This prevented the
hands from having to travel all over the keyboard. On modern computer
keyboards these are the F and J keys. Untrained people suffered the
same so-called syndromes as most untrained computer keyboard users
suffer today.

The properly trained person could go to the office and work a full 8
hours with minimal discomfort, in general, while untrained persons would
be lucky if they could type continuously for 30 minutes without severe
pain especially around the neck and shoulders.

The same courses should be required today, for people who use keyboards
continuously all day long, minus the hard whacking of the keys. :-)
 
Osiris said:
On 26 Jul 2006 19:14:38 -0700, (e-mail address removed) wrote:

Maybe because your wrist is bent up too much ? there is a
relation, maybe, with the keyboard slope...


Nope: we are privileged to have some choice.

Keyboard slope, prosthetics, and all that stuff might help, but it
won't stop repetitive strain injury (RSI).

The only RSI killer is speech-recognition.

Good luck.
 
H. Seldon said:
Trev wrote
In those days, people who wanted to become 'clerk typists' actually
went to school to learn the craft. As part of the required course
material, ergonomic work methods were taught. These people learned
what furniture (chairs and tables etc) was best suited to the job and
as well, they were taught basic things such as correct posture and
how to always use the center of the keyboard as the rest/start point.
This prevented the hands from having to travel all over the keyboard.

No it didnt.
On modern computer keyboards these are the F and J keys.

Those dont get used enough to matter ergonomically.

And the numeric pad is a big improvement on the traditional
typewriter keyboard number system ergonomically too.
Untrained people suffered the same so-called syndromes as most untrained computer
keyboard users suffer today.

Doesnt have a damned thing to do with 'training'

And most of the 'training' with traditional typewriters was involved
with minimising errors, not with the ergonomics anyway.
The properly trained person could go to the office and work a full 8
hours with minimal discomfort, in general, while untrained persons
would be lucky if they could type continuously for 30 minutes without severe pain
especially around the neck and shoulders.

You're massively confusing getting used to it with training.
The same courses should be required today, for people who use keyboards continuously
all day long, minus the hard whacking of the keys. :-)

Mindlessly silly.

And irrelevant to what is being discussed, THE ANGLE OF THE KEYBOARD.
 
And irrelevant to what is being discussed, THE ANGLE OF THE KEYBOARD.

it is called the SLOPE of the keyboard, silly jester.
See ISO 9241-4.
Keyboards have too many angles for that to be an adequate term in
this.
Slope is a word used to indicate a rotation about a horizontal axis,
which is meant here. As in the slope of a hill or other unevenness in
the terrain, or like in:
"Roddy's mind is sliding down a slippery SLOPE at high speed."

"Angle" could mean a rotation about ANY axis (2 horizontal, 1
vertical, eg.).
Another meaning might be the Miccosoft keyboard where the left and
right halves are angled towards the position of the elbow.
It is this feature that makes the term "angle" somewhat obscure. So if
you could keep the issue clear, I would like to ask you to use the
term SLOPE.
 
don't pay too much attention to Roddy: he's the group clown.
His mental inadequacies in real life make him come here for social
recognition.
bear with him.
 
it is called the SLOPE of the keyboard, silly jester.

Pity about the subject line, child.
See ISO 9241-4.

Doesnt mandate a particular slope, child.
Keyboards have too many angles for that to be an adequate term in this.

Tell the OP, child.
Slope is a word used to indicate a rotation about a horizontal axis,
which is meant here. As in the slope of a hill or other unevenness in
the terrain, or like in:
"Roddy's mind is sliding down a slippery SLOPE at high speed."
"Angle" could mean a rotation about ANY axis (2 horizontal, 1 vertical, eg.).

Tell the OP, child.
Another meaning might be the Miccosoft keyboard where the left
and right halves are angled towards the position of the elbow.
It is this feature that makes the term "angle" somewhat obscure. So if
you could keep the issue clear, I would like to ask you to use the
term SLOPE.

You have always been, and always will be, completely and utterly
irrelevant, child. What you might or might not like in spades.
 
John said:
Keyboard slope, prosthetics, and all that stuff might help, but it
won't stop repetitive strain injury (RSI).

The only RSI killer is speech-recognition.

Good luck.

i would think you are an expert on RSI with all of the jerking off you do!
 
the critical length of a copper wire is about 4.5 km, defining
critical as breaking by its own weight. (yes, it is independent of
it's cross section)

Defining the critical length of a thread as the number of follow-up
messages, until people start to swear, call names, be stupid, or
divert from the original issue in general:

What is the critical length of a newsgroup thread ?
I vote 20.
 
H. Seldon said:
Rod Speed wrote:

<Snipped bullshit>

You truly are a *stupid* ****wit aren't you??

You mean it's taken you *THIS* long to work it out? Blimey.

Nah, the muppet will just morph as he usually does. He does have some
comedy value though.
 
John said:
Keyboard slope, prosthetics, and all that stuff might help, but it
won't stop repetitive strain injury (RSI).

The only RSI killer is speech-recognition.

Well, Opera singers have a tendancy to lose thier voice if not careful.
I Suppose there isn't any part that's really safe from repetivive
strain.
 
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i would think you are an expert on RSI with all of the jerking off you do!
 
The only RSI killer is speech-recognition.
Well, Opera singers have a tendancy to lose thier voice if not careful.
I Suppose there isn't any part that's really safe from repetivive
strain.

It's called: expiration date.
 
John Doe wrote:

Well, Opera singers have a tendancy to lose thier voice if not
careful. I Suppose there isn't any part that's really safe from
repetivive strain.

I haven't gotten hoarse yet.

Speech recognition is a generation ahead of using a keyboard for
activating scripts/macros too. You can't have enough keys (or
keystroke combinations) on a keyboard to equal the number of
recognizable two or three syllables sounds, and keystrokes aren't
anywhere near as memorable (there's no comparison). Dictation and
speech activated automation are distinct. Dictation is difficult,
but using speech for macro activation is a very limited vocabulary
and much easier no matter how many macros you would like to have.

For me, currently NaturallySpeaking is the only viable SR program.
One way to train your voice might be to buy a digital recorder for
taking notes, then you can play them back and rerecord them until
they sound right. I did that for a couple of years before finally
getting SR to work (besides, digital recorders are cool).

Good luck.
 
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:35:04 GMT, John Doe

Speech recognition is a generation ahead of using a keyboard for
activating scripts/macros too.

I did that for a couple of years before finally
getting SR to work (besides, digital recorders are cool).


Err, I'd hardly call training for 2 years, even remotely
close to being a generation ahead of using a keyboard to get
the job done.

Seems quite the opposite, that SR is still far far behind
using a keyboard.
 
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