ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage

[Quest]

i got the V-GEAR Landisk and i have exactly the same issues with m
linux set-top-box as the guys that want to use it with xbmc
i noticed that the cifs implementation is more like non existent, an
the normal smbfs implementation is very buggy

v-gear told me they don't care about linux support as it is no
advertised
the product with the current firmware totally sucks and i don'
recommend to buy it if you don't have it already. (specially if you
thinking about using it with linux

someone who is native English speaking should contact the samba tea
because they are either abusing the name "samba" for a product tha
does not contain samba code, or they are violating the GPL becaus
they do not publish the source code
best regard
Ques

 

[rdm362]

I have the HD 363N Argosy and have a problem using QuickBooks Pro 2004
where the working file is stored on the NAS. After a short period of
inactivity QuickBooks loses it's connection and I must abort
QuickBooks and reconnect. Never a problem reconnecting just a pain in
the rear to have to do 8-10 times a day. Quick books says that the
drive is losing it's connection for what appears a very short time
and then reconnecting but QuickBooks can not handle this disconnect.
I am running the latest Argosy fw 6-0804. NAS is connected to Linksys
10/100 switch and all pc's are hardwired to switch. I have the sleep
mode time on the NAS set to 0. HELP PLEASE !!!

 

[edavey]

0607 firmware worked for me

Dear fellow network storage enthusiasts,

My setup - with the latest 0804 firmware was giving me problems in Windows XP:

- the files becoming invisible
- delays in displaying files
- error messages saying that the path was not known or already being accessed

I have been able to get rid of the gremlins by reverting to the firmware NetHDD005-0607. I got the firmware from http://www.jarenterprises.com/11501.html which a previous poster has kindly made available.

Hope this helps!

 

[edavey]

Dear fellow network enthusiasts

My setup - with the latest 0804 firmware was giving me problems i
Windows XP

- the files becoming invisibl
- delays in displaying file
- error messages saying that the path was not known or already bein
accesse

I have been able to get rid of the gremlins by reverting to th
firmware NetHDD005-0607. I got the firmware fro
http://www.jarenterprises.com/11501.html which a previous poster ha
kindly made available.

Hope this helps

E

 

[fixuser]

I don't have any news regarding the next firmware release. Tritto
support assures me they are working on it though

05-0607 vs. 06-080
If you need reliable file dates and times, say for backup or fil
syncing purposes, use 06-0804. If you need better file an
directory reliability, revert back to, or stay with, 05-0607
I personally need the stable features of both firmware releases, so a
waiting for the next firmware

[b:3ae61a3a5c]Syncing / Backup Program for Win XP[/b:3ae61a3a5c
For those Win XP users that may be interested, Microsoft has a ne
file syncing utility
Syn
PowerToy. This may be helpful for those using the NAS as a bac
up device. And, it's free

[b:3ae61a3a5c]Tom's Networking Latest NAS review[/b:3ae61a3a5c
Again, for those that may be interested, Tom's reviewed th
AD
NAS. I've mentioned this NAS before when the Hawking NAS wa
asked about. It appears to have a couple interesting features ..
such as a personal web server and it supports BitTorrent (which seem
like a neat idea to work into a NAS unit). Other than this, th
performance was terrible when comparted to Tritton units

[b:3ae61a3a5c]Bytecc/VGear LANDISK vs. Argosy/Tritto
NAS[/b:3ae61a3a5c
Ever since presenting information about the V-Gear LANDISK, I've bee
curious to know if the Tritton/Argosy firmware would work in such
device. Well, last week I received a most interesting privat
message from someone that owns the Bytecc ME-850 LANDISK. He wa
able to load the Argosy firmware into and the device continued t
work normally. In addition, the 5 lights on the LANDISK (verses th
1 light on the Argosy/Tritton) continued to work as they did before

So, all these NAS units appear to all be the exact same thing. I'
very, very curious who makes the original OEM unit. For those tha
know, or remember, the 'To Tell the Truth' TV game show ... "Will th
real NAS please stand up!!

 

[fixuser]

With nothing to do but wait for the next firmware, my curiousity go
the better of me this monring, and I tried to load the V-Gear LANDIS
019 firmware into my Argosy/Tritton NAS. The firmware was accepte
and loaded. But, after that the device no longer worked properly

Upon a power up, the LED flashes like it usually does during the powe
up sequence, but then the system shuts itself off. I've tried wit
the hard drive connected and disconnected and have not been able t
get it to stay o

So, I just ordered a new NAS. So, now instead of waiting for the nex
firmware, I'm also waiting for my brand new NAS unit ... two things t
look forward to

Just FYI

 

[microchip]

fixuserwrote
With nothing to do but wait for the next firmware, my curiousity go
the better of me this monring, and I tried to load the V-Gear LANDIS
019 firmware into my Argosy/Tritton NAS. The firmware was accepte
and loaded. But, after that the device no longer worked properly

Upon a power up, the LED flashes like it usually does during th

power up sequence, but then the system shuts itself off. I've trie
with the hard drive connected and disconnected and have not been abl
to get it to stay o

So, I just ordered a new NAS. So, now instead of waiting for th

next firmware, I'm also waiting for my brand new NAS unit ... tw
things to look forward to

Just FYI

Sorry to hear you farged up your unit..

M

 

[Kane81]

Man, these NAS/Argosy devices suck

I just moved a whole heap of file from the NAS to my media center an
it for some stupid reason created a whole heap of junk folders lik
s,!~, _

now either I've been hacked or the stupid NAS firmware is still bugg
as all hell

It also say that I dont have permission to delete some files....
copied them, but just cant delete them. I of course ran the scandis
utility and it said there were no errors

I'm getting rid of my NAS! and am going for a SimpleTech/Maxtor NAS

I dont have the time to wait for them to fix the problem/firmware
they should have tested it before they sold it

They have at least USB ports and can act as a printserver or allow yo
to expand your disk space by plugging a usb hdd in

 

[NeuroPsyche]

I too have 2 of these HD363n network devices and installed 200 gig
Maxtor IDE drives in both of them.
I experienced weird latency/delays when moving/copying/deleting files
from Windows based Os's. Both in Windows XP pro and Windows 2000
Pro.

I went to the mfgs web site, found a firmware update that was newer
than what was already installed and flashed the network drive
devices.

After the flash, nothing changed. I still have these really long
latency delays when moving files. I originally got these for media
storage devices for movies and songs. I was running out of space on
my computers and wanted to off-load some of the files. I started out
moving entire drives onto the HD363N devices over the 100TX Ethernet.
The files, while moving, actually gained in time thru the windows file
moving window. The files actually did move, but, as I said, it first
started out saying that it would take something like 60 minutes, then
it kepted on increasing, 80, 90, 100, etc.
I also ran into problems when moving files that it came back and said
the network device no longer exists on the network.

I have these devices hard-ip'd. Statically address and assigned on
the network. No conflicts. No problems on the network.

But, these 'appliances' do have a network communications problem,
definitely apparent when moving large files possibly greater then
1gig.
Most of my movie files are around 800meg - 2 gig. Per file. My mp3
files are standard size around 2-4 meg. The problems are more
apparenet when moving entire drives/directories/files into the HD363N
that contain around 100 Gig...

So, I know what your talking about.
The HD363N does have some problems. Enough for me to take them off
the network and make them dust collectors

BobValwrote:

I have just purchased a Argosy - HD363N Network Storage Enclosure
and

 

[sanman]

People, the HD363n was never meant to move large files and be a spee
demon on your 10/100 network - its meant to be used as a small backu
device or small storage device for personal desktops.

Really do most people have gigabyte size files on a desktop, are yo
really going to use this device to edit or acess database file
directly - I wouldn't - try larger local hard drives that are raide
and shared.

If you want to access and move large files quickly you better go ou
and spend some dollars on a Hatachi, EMC, or IBM San/Nas raid disk.
Oh! and you better have a hot host to go with it with fibre channe
interfaces and a gigabit network. And you still may not get th
performance because different file types transfer at different rate
- its a known fact in large SAN/NAS installations

We have bought 3 of these units, over the last 4 months and am ver
happy with the job it has done. They sit on our network and sync
number of desktops and laptops daily without any problems. The jo
we have asked them to do, it does

Its a $80 solution! What did you expect, high performance

Just my thoughts . . . thx :

 

[dilettante]

I have no idea where people got the idea to use NAS devices fo
"backup" myself. That's not normally the role one thinks of for
file server

Actually though, storing files and small file-based databases (Access
SQLite, etc.) is precisely the target for these devices. The idea i
to have sharable or even multiuser files accessible to anyone in th
workgroup without leaving all of the desktops running all the time.
I assume that's where the cryptic "local... shared" comment come
in

There is a bug or two left, like the "set EOF" bug we uncovered
while back. In general though my units are working fine, and th
performance is now (recent firmware) about where I'd expect it to be
I haven't lost any data outside the limits set by the bugs I kno
about

Another fix or two and these will be very nice little file servers.
No, they'll never be giga-backup devices, but that isn't what NAS i
about anyway. If people are looking for backup they might conside
USB/Firewire cabinets instead. Those are probably a better fit
though you sacrifice the multiuser capabilities offered by NAS

 

[pinterested]

My first Bytecc 850 was DOA, and i now have a working model. Ha
anyone tried to connect two IDE drives (at least one powered from a
external source)? I'm wondering if the Firmware supports tw
devices..

 

[pinterested]

Guys - I have (for the moment) a Bytecc ME-850. The SYS comman
reports
TERM=ans

login: admi
Password: ***************
LANDISK,Telnet Server [release 2.0
ASIAMAJOR>sy
Host Name:LANDISK Firmware:LANDISK 01
Hardware Version : 0008 Speed 125Mh
Firmware build date(YYYY/MM/DD): 2005/7/1
Timers: 11 In use, 13 fre
Primary DNS x.x.x.xSecondary DNS y.y.y.
System time: 2005/10/15 19:29:25 Time count 1139
log file C:\LOG.TXT, maximum length 0, log function o
Debug level
ASIAMAJOR

 

[Kane81]

^^
^^^

the fact is the product is unreliable and buggy

sure you wouldnt expect blistering speeds from the device, but I'
sick of all this corruption happening! I'm not copying gigs of data
just trying to run outlook pst file on it, and I always get
corruption. also moving files for some unknown reason caused ne
folders to randomly appear

If the device cant handle transfering a 2 gig, then they should sa
so! If the drive is Fat32, the the limit is 2 gig, so they shoul
have built it to handle that

 

[ckl_88]

Questwrote
i got the V-GEAR Landisk and i have exactly the same issues with m
linux set-top-box as the guys that want to use it with xbmc

i noticed that the cifs implementation is more like non existent

and the normal smbfs implementation is very buggy

v-gear told me they don't care about linux support as it is no advertised
the product with the current firmware totally sucks and i don'

recommend to buy it if you don't have it already. (specially if you
thinking about using it with linux

Ques

I checked the v-gear site and although they said that they do no
support Linux, they have tried it with Samba V2.x. Current version i
3.0.20.x so if you downgrade, it might work

BTW, what issues are you having with Linux? Is it the insane fil
sizes or empty directories? Something else

I'm running Linux and I can see all my files and write/read etc. whe
used with the Bytecc ME-850 (same as v-gear product). Only problem i
the file sizes are insanely huge. I'm running the latest version o
SAMBA

 

[david_levin]

There new (6-1013 - 10/25/05) firmware posted to the tritton we
site...

http://www.trittontechnologies.com/products/TRINSS001.ht
http://support.trittontechnologies.com/simplenas.html#Download

I'm about to load it up
(Loaded: Note that my host & group names got reset after update
And, the hostname had to be cut to 12 characters

Here's the release notes

Version 6-1013 (October 25, 2005)
* Daylight Savings Time adjustment added
† Creation date is no longer modified when modifying the file
† Share passwords were not case sensitive when logging into fro
Windows
† Seconds on timestamps are no longer ignored
† Administrator name on "Home Page" was not updating new admin nam
† Files dates with year 19xx were changed to 20xx
† Filesizes over 4GB had wrong MD5 checksum in SMB and FTP copyin
† Folder names only accept English characters or numbers: “0-9”
“A-Z”, “a-z”,”-“, “=”, “_
† Improved transfer with wireless device
† Improved FTP file copy 'lost connection' proble
† "Factory Defaults" button in user interface now correctly resets al
settings stored in flash.
† TCP three-way handshaking packet lost issue resolve

 

[Kane81]

Just a small update... NOT

Geez talk about big bugs. The issues that have been "fixed" could lea
to major data loss

Just shows how this product is still in the beta stage

 

[Dawn]

Argosy sent me this latest firmware update in response to a support
request I sent in concerning an unreported bug I have discovered.
This bug has persisted through all the firmware revisions I have
tested so far, and is still unresolved in this latest version.

Description:
Create 5 or more nested subFolders below the PUBLIC Folder, or any
other Root Folder:

Public
|_ A
|_ B
|_ C
|_ D
|_ E

Now place at least 12 files in the E Folder, or any Folder below it:

Public
|_ A
|_ B
|_ C
|_ D
|_ E
|_ File01
|_ File02
|_ File03
|_ File04
|_ File05
|_ File06
|_ File07
|_ File08
|_ File09
|_ File10
|_ File11
|_ File12

The files can be any type and size, including 0 Bytes.

Now attempt to delete the E Folder, or any Folder above it and, under
Windows2000, you will receive this message:

"Cannot remove the folder E: Cannot find the specified path. Make
sure you specify the correct path."

At this point, the E Folder is undeletable by any means except
resetting the Argosy device, either by power cycling or by using the
web interface to perform a soft reset. I'm surprised no one else has
reported this bug here since it seems to exist in all firmware
revisions. I have sent this description to Argosy Support and am
waiting for a reply.

 

[Dawn]

Dawnwrote:
Argosy sent me this latest firmware update in response to a support
request I sent in concerning an unreported bug I have discovered.
This bug has persisted through all the firmware revisions I have
tested so far, and is still unresolved in this latest version.

Description:
Create 5 or more nested subFolders below the PUBLIC Folder, or any other Root Folder:

Public
..|_ A
........|_ B
..............|_ C
....................|_ D
..........................|_ E

Now place at least 12 files in the E Folder, or any Folder below it:

Public
..|_ A
........|_ B
..............|_ C
....................|_ D
.........................|_ E
................................|_ File01
................................|_ File02
................................|_ File03
................................|_ File04
................................|_ File05
................................|_ File06
................................|_ File07
................................|_ File08
................................|_ File09
................................|_ File10
................................|_ File11
................................|_ File12

The files can be any type and size, including 0 Bytes.

Now attempt to delete the E Folder, or any Folder above it and,

under Windows2000, you will receive this message:

"Cannot remove the folder E: Cannot find the specified path. Make

sure you specify the correct path."

At this point, the E Folder is undeletable by any means except

resetting the Argosy device, either by power cycling or by using the
web interface to perform a soft reset. I'm surprised no one else has
reported this bug here since it seems to exist in all firmware
revisions. I have sent this description to Argosy Support and am
waiting for a reply.

 

[Odie Ferrous]

I simply cannot believe you are actually spending so much time on a
product that clearly is a pile of sh!t.

Get rid of it.

Get something decent.

Stop clogging up the newsgroup with drivel concerning what is nothing
more than a toy. And a bad one, at that.

Good grief.

If you're serious about your data, then do something serious about it -
don't get a pile of cr@p and expect it to perform.

Absolutely mindless. Give it up.

And take your posts to "alt.mindless.drivel" in future.


OD