WILL MICROSOFT PLEASE CLARIFY?

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cvp said:
There are now multiple threads related to the Upgrade versions of Vista
and great confusion abounds! So, I'm starting a new one to REQUEST A
DEFINITIVE STATEMENT from a Microsoft representative to clarify the
true position!
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I second your request.
Microsoft - please clarify.
 
Yes, Steve, that's what we are being told. Even worse, that the install could
only be started from within the qualifying OS. Even worse, the bootable DVD
functions had been crippled (because there was no bootable DVD!).

I'd be inclined to say no sane person would design the upgrade this way.
OTOH, that's what we're being told has been designed.

Hence the desire to clear this up once and for all...
 
I assume that this is to make sure that the upgrade is from an activated
qualified O/S. This will of course prevent passing the qualifying CD
around, using it for every computer in the house (like the old 98 ones),
letting a friend use it, etc.
 
And if the qualifying XP were preinstalled and the recovery software in a
hidden partition and not on media? What then if the drive fails? There are
just too many bad scenarios for this non-booting dvd thing too be true (I
hope!)
 
Are you sure the Upgrade Edition gives you the option of installing to a
different drive? And what about folks who don't know a Vista backup from a
Ford pickup? Folks who just buy a PC and have no idea about recovering or
installing or anything else. I don't look forward to some of my friends who
call on me for help getting into one of these messes either! Perhaps there
will turn out to be nothing to all this non-booting dvd stuff. We can hope.
 
Where does that leave the Complete PC Restore?


cvp said:
Yes, Steve, that's what we are being told. Even worse, that the install
could
only be started from within the qualifying OS. Even worse, the bootable
DVD
functions had been crippled (because there was no bootable DVD!).

I'd be inclined to say no sane person would design the upgrade this way.
OTOH, that's what we're being told has been designed.

Hence the desire to clear this up once and for all...
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I wish MS had a family plan so you could get three or five or whatever
licenses for a reduced price. How about a three-license family plan full
edition Vista Ultimate for $599?

Unfortunately the idea was not accepted when offered in one of the MVP -
Vista Team chats earlier this year.

I certainly plan to buy an OS/X Leopard family pack (five licenses) for $179
when Leopard launches in a few months. I have one Mac and one of my
daughters and her husband have two. Beats three times $129.
 
im running out to buy one of thoese "no i will not fix your computer"
t-shirts right now.
 
Dead in the water! Hence the purpose of this thread.

And this is not a "in the fullness of time" issue either. Sales of Vista are
taking place right now under the Vista Express Upgrade Program with a joint
PC manufacturer/Microsoft advertised functionality.

This really ought to be an easy question for Microsoft to answer. The
silence is deafening!
 
cvp said:
Yes, Steve, that's what we are being told. Even worse, that the install
could
only be started from within the qualifying OS. Even worse, the bootable
DVD
functions had been crippled (because there was no bootable DVD!).

I'd be inclined to say no sane person would design the upgrade this way.
OTOH, that's what we're being told has been designed.
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Who's saying this? Is it on a microsoft webpage or based on the experience
of someone who obtained a copy of a Vista upgrade DVD?

It's been a while since I've had to deal with a microsoft upgrade. My
recollection from the last time was the upgrade checked to see if I had the
prior disks but that the operating system did not have to already be
installed. How does the XP upgrade CD work? Is it bootable? Does it
require the operating system to already be installed?
 
It's been a while since I've had to deal with a microsoft upgrade. My
recollection from the last time was the upgrade checked to see if I had
the prior disks but that the operating system did not have to already be
installed. How does the XP upgrade CD work? Is it bootable? Does it
require the operating system to already be installed?
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It is bootable and it just asks to see the CD for the qualifying OS.
 
Carey Frisch and Dale Gortner, both very experienced folks are saying this.
Carey is a long-time MVP and Dale is MSFT. That's enough for us to ask for
clarification.
 
Where are you getting your information? That is how XP Upgrade editions
work, but have you actually used a Vista Upgrade Edition dvd? No one else
here has. We have been seeing posts that say the Vista Upgrade dvd's do not
work this way.
 
Where are you getting your information? That is how XP Upgrade editions
work, but have you actually used a Vista Upgrade Edition dvd? No one else
here has. We have been seeing posts that say the Vista Upgrade dvd's do
not work this way.
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The question, and the answer, relate to XP :-)
 
I have posted this question in one other thread. I need clarification
please!
Wow! I have been reading multiple threads going round about the Upgrade
option and Vista. Hats off To Colin Barnhorst, who has been relentlessly
pursing the truth.
And I am just as mixed up and confused as ever. Apparently, if I upgrade (
and I know it must be done within XP) I will not have access to any bootup
repair programs on the disk, hence, it is a NON-bootable disk. However, I
have 2 questions I need clarification on. 1. I can choose a clean install,
right? Not just an upgrade. I do not want Just an upgrade.
2. If I use a 3rd party program, such as acronis true backup, this image
will restore? Microsoft hasn't jury rigged back up images I hope? IF anyone
can answer these questions, bless you!
 
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