This NG has become NG for me

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For more than a year (or has it been two or three?), I have followed ACF
and learned a great deal about various freeware programs, downloading a
countless number of them. What I found informative were the comments
responding to various questions and discussions relating to specific
programs. It has been my preferred NG.

In the past several weeks I find few postings from the people I found a
source of information. Instead, today I find over 1,000 posts, too many
of which come from Protean, R.L., Tramp and Vegard Krog, that relate to
individual programs that, for the most part, are of no interest to me.
Trying to review all of them is a time-consuming and frustrating
effort. A use of my time that I cannot expend.

As far as I am concernted (and I am sure nobody much gives a damn),this
NG has become a waste of time. It has, in my opinion, lost its relevance
in the context of providing freeware information.

I'm going to rely on Pricelessware, SOS, and a couple of other
bookmarked freeware sites -- and, of course, Google!

Goodbye, dear ACF -- you were my unspoiled virgin -- how could you
become a whore?
 
TedK said:
For more than a year (or has it been two or three?), I have followed
ACF and learned a great deal about various freeware programs,
downloading a countless number of them. What I found informative
were the comments responding to various questions and discussions
relating to specific programs. It has been my preferred NG.

In the past several weeks I find few postings from the people I found
a source of information. Instead, today I find over 1,000 posts, too
many of which come from Protean, R.L., Tramp and Vegard Krog, that
relate to individual programs that, for the most part, are of no
interest to me. Trying to review all of them is a time-consuming
and frustrating effort. A use of my time that I cannot expend.

As far as I am concernted (and I am sure nobody much gives a
damn),this NG has become a waste of time. It has, in my opinion, lost
its relevance in the context of providing freeware information.

I'm going to rely on Pricelessware, SOS, and a couple of other
bookmarked freeware sites -- and, of course, Google!

Goodbye, dear ACF -- you were my unspoiled virgin -- how could you
become a whore?
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I concur. The attempts by the aforementioned posters to "get back to
freeware" after the PL temper tantrum has instead turned the group into
nothing more than a laundry list of all the freeware links these guys
can copy and paste, with little or nothing of value. If that's all I
wanted, I'd just go read a website list.
 
Mark Warner scribebat:
a laundry list of all the freeware links these guys
can copy and paste, with little or nothing of value.
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Yes, and they are not even so nice as to write an [ANNOUNCE] in the
subject as help for filtering. Instead, one has to filter the poster,
and still get all the replies. :(
 
today I find over 1,000 posts, too many of which come from
Protean, R.L., Tramp and Vegard Krog, that relate to individual
programs that, for the most part, are of no interest to me. Trying
to review all of them is a time-consuming and frustrating effort.
Click to expand...

Filtering articles from those posters (or at least on articles from
them without References headers) should make the group manageable for
you again.
 
Mark said:
I concur. The attempts by the aforementioned posters to "get back to
freeware" after the PL temper tantrum has instead turned the group into
nothing more than a laundry list of all the freeware links these guys
can copy and paste, with little or nothing of value. If that's all I
wanted, I'd just go read a website list.
Click to expand...

To the both of you, why can't you simply filter out their posts if you
don't like them?
 
»Q« said:
Filtering articles from those posters (or at least on articles from
them without References headers) should make the group manageable for
you again.
Click to expand...

Heh. »Q«, we posted the same thing at the same moment.
 
TedK <[email protected]> says in

What I found informative were the comments responding to
various questions and discussions relating to specific
programs. It has been my preferred NG.
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So, what particular programs do you want to discuss? Let's
start it right now right here :-) I myself have had fun
taking about Firefox ... You know, everyone can start a thread
that they like...seriously, what types of programs are you
interested in? Let's go for a venture to find them, review
them, and dicuss them (and perhaps even make them :-) sound
like a good idea?

In the past several weeks I find few postings from the
people I found a source of information. Instead, today I
find over 1,000 posts, too many of which come from Protean,
R.L., Tramp and Vegard Krog, that relate to individual
programs that, for the most part, are of no interest to me.
Trying to review all of them is a time-consuming and
frustrating
effort. A use of my time that I cannot expend.
Click to expand...


One way I do is to make good use of the scoring system or
fitering system of my newsreader. I use Xnews and it is
indeed great. For example, I am not a big fan of image
program or mp3 program - so I set those key words so that that
the newsreader would assign a lower score to them and filter
them out. Besides Xnews, Pimmy is another good one achieve
this filter - it can do filter within the text message, really
nice. (but of course, you can always filter me the author :-)
no problem)
As far as I am concernted (and I am sure nobody much gives
a damn),this NG has become a waste of time. It has, in my
opinion, lost its relevance in the context of providing
freeware information.
Click to expand...

You can always start a dissussion that *you* are interested
in, I sure will try to join the discussion if it is something
that I am also interested in.
I'm going to rely on Pricelessware, SOS, and a couple of
other bookmarked freeware sites -- and, of course, Google!
Click to expand...

They are always good, of course, no object to that :-)
Goodbye, dear ACF -- you were my unspoiled virgin -- how
could you become a whore?
Click to expand...

That....sound a bit troll-like to me ...but of course, I would
give you the benifit of the doubts...


--
RL
Unofficial Adaware Updater; Little (File) Backer Upper; Uptime
Quickie; Tray Quickie; Google Quickie; Lefty Animated
Cursors;
http://home.earthlink.net/~ringomei/page2.html
*******************************************
Places that host a list of the Pricelessware annual voting
results and information:
http://www.pricelessware.org, http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
 
John said:
To the both of you, why can't you simply filter out their posts if you
don't like them?
Click to expand...


I could and I may. I use a killfile only very, very rarely -- in most
situations (both here and elsewhere), even the biggest pains-in-the-neck
will occasionally offer up a gem.

I believe this "flooding" of the group was initially done to make a
point, and to drown out the cacophony surrounding the PL webmaster
controversy. The point's been made and the shouting has died down. Time
to give it a rest.
 
TedK said:
For more than a year (or has it been two or three?), I have followed ACF
and learned a great deal about various freeware programs, downloading a
countless number of them. What I found informative were the comments
responding to various questions and discussions relating to specific
programs. It has been my preferred NG.

In the past several weeks I find few postings from the people I found a
source of information. Instead, today I find over 1,000 posts, too many
of which come from Protean, R.L., Tramp and Vegard Krog, that relate to
individual programs that, for the most part, are of no interest to me.
Trying to review all of them is a time-consuming and frustrating
effort. A use of my time that I cannot expend.

As far as I am concernted (and I am sure nobody much gives a damn),this
NG has become a waste of time. It has, in my opinion, lost its relevance
in the context of providing freeware information.

I'm going to rely on Pricelessware, SOS, and a couple of other
bookmarked freeware sites -- and, of course, Google!

Goodbye, dear ACF -- you were my unspoiled virgin -- how could you
become a whore?
Click to expand...

I do concur even though I still am a freeware whore.
There are far too many postings for games and children's progs of which I
think are just a flood to drown out the new 'Pricelessware' mirrors which
is rather sad because the group, a.f.c, could still work in harmony without
the spamming flood.

I was looking forward to Gordan Darling's posts but had to keep pressing 'N'
through new posts in hopes of getting something that was useable to me, in
particular I had to wade through the games which belong on a.c.f.g. instead
of here.

Even though I use Linux I am also looking for freeware for my wife's XP.
Yes, I could use a filter as >>Q<< suggests but I don't believe in filters
because I think each of use have something to contribute, even opinions of
which I could not care of but I file away for information for the people
who do not read this group which BTW is in the millions.
It isn't the only forum in town Boys. When you are cruising other groups do
you not recommend that someone come here in search of something
(spyblaster) that they would not have heard of that might solve their
problems?
I do and I know you do too.
Everyone knows Spybot and Ad-Aware.
 
John said:
To the both of you, why can't you simply filter out their posts if you
don't like them?
Click to expand...
Yes, and they are not even so nice as to write an [ANNOUNCE] in the
subject as help for filtering. Instead, one has to filter the poster,
and still get all the replies
Click to expand...



1. It's Vegard Krog *Petersen*, thank you! :-)
2. I have no agenda - just going through some old notes of
interesting programs/games from my old 'PC Utilities' coverdiscs.
3. Am I required to use [Announce] when posting links to games /
programs that are not mine???
4. Yippi - 16 posts and some-one has finally killfiled me! :-)


Good weekend to you all.

Regards from Vegard Krog Petersen, Halden, Norway
(where is my sig? - grrrr!)
 
»Q« said:
Filtering articles from those posters (or at least on articles from
them without References headers) ...
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That's a good idea; now I just have to learn how to do it. :-)

I find the flooding tiresome. It is as bad as, er, flooding...
 
Mark said:
I could and I may. I use a killfile only very, very rarely -- in most
situations (both here and elsewhere), even the biggest pains-in-the-neck
will occasionally offer up a gem.

I believe this "flooding" of the group was initially done to make a
point, and to drown out the cacophony surrounding the PL webmaster
controversy. The point's been made and the shouting has died down. Time
to give it a rest.
Click to expand...

Well, can't say I disagree with that. 80)>
 
jo said:
I find the flooding tiresome. It is as bad as, er, flooding...
Click to expand...

The flooding wouldn't matter so much if a short description was given in
the subject line. Most programs are properly named, but many can throw
you off. If I saw the subject "Crack-Up", Some would likely think it was
for some sort of security-related program, not knowing it was actually a
tool to check HD fragmentation.
 
I could and I may. I use a killfile only very, very rarely -- in most
situations (both here and elsewhere), even the biggest pains-in-the-neck
will occasionally offer up a gem.
Click to expand...

John's right. I also filter out the annoying posts to preserve my sanity and
to save time. However, some of the flooders are good folks, and do not
deserve being permanently killfiled. Instead, I put them in the "cooler" by
setting a time limit (usually 14 days) on my kill filter. It's amazing how
quickly things get back to normal when annoying posts are ignored instead of
piled on. Oh, and never tell anyone you're plonking them. That's the best
way.
I believe this "flooding" of the group was initially done to make a
point, and to drown out the cacophony surrounding the PL webmaster
controversy. The point's been made and the shouting has died down. Time
to give it a rest.
Click to expand...

Agreed.

Bob
 
Vegard Krog Petersen said:
John said:
To the both of you, why can't you simply filter out their posts if you
don't like them?
Click to expand...
Yes, and they are not even so nice as to write an [ANNOUNCE] in the
subject as help for filtering. Instead, one has to filter the poster,
and still get all the replies
Click to expand...



1. It's Vegard Krog *Petersen*, thank you! :-)
2. I have no agenda - just going through some old notes of
interesting programs/games from my old 'PC Utilities' coverdiscs.
3. Am I required to use [Announce] when posting links to games /
programs that are not mine???
4. Yippi - 16 posts and some-one has finally killfiled me! :-)


Good weekend to you all.

Regards from Vegard Krog Petersen, Halden, Norway
(where is my sig? - grrrr!)
Click to expand...

I would worry about it Vegard, too many people seem to "quietly" appreciate
these floods than those that do not. Like John said, if someone's annoyed
then maybe they need to use filters.

However, what we can start doing (and I'm going to post this else where so
that other flooders see this) is to put "mini" descriptions in the subject
like, such as if its another archive program, a notepad replacement, a game,
a directory utility, a screen saver, a kids program, etc. Would that help ?
 
AyntRyte said:
The flooding wouldn't matter so much if a short description was given in
the subject line. Most programs are properly named, but many can throw
you off. If I saw the subject "Crack-Up", Some would likely think it was
for some sort of security-related program, not knowing it was actually a
tool to check HD fragmentation.
Click to expand...


I agree. What I started doing (and I'm going to post this else where so
that other flooders see this) is to put "mini" descriptions in the subject
like, such as if its another archive program, a notepad replacement, a game,
a directory utility, a screen saver, a kids program, etc. Would that help ?
 
*ProteanThread* said:
John said:
Mark Warner wrote:

TedK wrote:

Instead, today I find over 1,000 posts, too
many of which come from Protean, R.L., Tramp and Vegard Krog,
I concur. The attempts by the aforementioned posters to "get back to
freeware" after the PL temper tantrum has instead turned the group into
nothing more than a laundry list of all the freeware links these guys
can copy and paste, with little or nothing of value. If that's all I
wanted, I'd just go read a website list.

To the both of you, why can't you simply filter out their posts if you
don't like them?
Click to expand...
Yes, and they are not even so nice as to write an [ANNOUNCE] in the
subject as help for filtering. Instead, one has to filter the poster,
and still get all the replies
Click to expand...



1. It's Vegard Krog *Petersen*, thank you! :-)
2. I have no agenda - just going through some old notes of
interesting programs/games from my old 'PC Utilities' coverdiscs.
3. Am I required to use [Announce] when posting links to games /
programs that are not mine???
4. Yippi - 16 posts and some-one has finally killfiled me! :-)


Good weekend to you all.

Regards from Vegard Krog Petersen, Halden, Norway
(where is my sig? - grrrr!)
Click to expand...

I would worry about it Vegard, too many people seem to "quietly" appreciate
these floods than those that do not. Like John said, if someone's annoyed
then maybe they need to use filters.

However, what we can start doing (and I'm going to post this else where so
that other flooders see this) is to put "mini" descriptions in the subject
like, such as if its another archive program, a notepad replacement, a game,
a directory utility, a screen saver, a kids program, etc. Would that
Click to expand...
help ?

A flood of freeware (on-topic) will always be appreciated more than a
flood of flames.

And the names of the programs and way they are posted are easily
discerned. I myself have by-passed most without any problem.
 
*ProteanThread* said:
I agree. What I started doing (and I'm going to post this else where so
that other flooders see this) is to put "mini" descriptions in the subject
like, such as if its another archive program, a notepad replacement, a game,
a directory utility, a screen saver, a kids program, etc. Would that
Click to expand...
help ?

Absolutely.
 
dszady said:
I do concur even though I still am a freeware whore.
There are far too many postings for games and children's progs of which I
think are just a flood to drown out the new 'Pricelessware' mirrors which
is rather sad because the group, a.f.c, could still work in harmony without
the spamming flood.
Click to expand...

If its freeware, then its on topic.
I was looking forward to Gordan Darling's posts but had to keep pressing 'N'
through new posts in hopes of getting something that was useable to me, in
particular I had to wade through the games which belong on a.c.f.g. instead
of here.
Click to expand...

Then politely ask Tramp to cross post to a.c.f.g. some people may not even
have that newsgroup on *THEIR* servers yet.
Even though I use Linux I am also looking for freeware for my wife's XP.
Yes, I could use a filter as >>Q<< suggests but I don't believe in filters
because I think each of use have something to contribute, even opinions of
which I could not care of but I file away for information for the people
who do not read this group which BTW is in the millions.
It isn't the only forum in town Boys. When you are cruising other groups do
you not recommend that someone come here in search of something
(spyblaster) that they would not have heard of that might solve their
problems?
I do and I know you do too.
Everyone knows Spybot and Ad-Aware.
Click to expand...

and there are programs that never get mentioned or recognized at all until
they are noted here, in acf. some of these are quite good, frankly, and
probably better than whats on that so called pricelessware list. flooding
is not only good for readers of acf but its also good for freeware
developers to get their work at least recognized so that somone may find use
for it. certainly in these floods i'm not the only one who has found more
than one useful program posted that I now use, correct?
 
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