M
Mark D. VandenBeg
Jeff said:
Ultimately, it's their playground and their ball, they can make up the rules
of the game.
Ultimately, it's their playground and their ball, they can make up the rules
of the game.
J
Jeff
Mark;
True,True
Jeff
True,True
Jeff
Mark D. VandenBeg said:
C
Chad Harris
Intel--
You have a literacy level and I have a post count enough that you can
distinguish spelling from typos or occasionally homonym displacements (there
and their) are common when I'm on the phone and typing at the same time,
particularly after a long day. The spell checker is not getting used here.
I use it in Word on a doc or a biz letter.
However, out of respect for any readers, I'll try to up the quality of proof
reading.
I'll consider a spell checker, but I doubt I need it.
You want to see some bad English? Call Microsoft on a PSS episode (that
means support) and talk to Indians who cannot speak English as opposed to
Indians who can, and talk to Indians who work for Convergys of Ohio in
Cincinnati because rather than give a damn about support for the unwashed
masses, or rather than give a damn about employing people in this country,
Microsoft outsourcers to incompetents who know nothing about what they're
doing.
MSFT depends on the groups for real quality support--another population they
could give two shits about.
CH
You have a literacy level and I have a post count enough that you can
distinguish spelling from typos or occasionally homonym displacements (there
and their) are common when I'm on the phone and typing at the same time,
particularly after a long day. The spell checker is not getting used here.
I use it in Word on a doc or a biz letter.
However, out of respect for any readers, I'll try to up the quality of proof
reading.
I'll consider a spell checker, but I doubt I need it.
You want to see some bad English? Call Microsoft on a PSS episode (that
means support) and talk to Indians who cannot speak English as opposed to
Indians who can, and talk to Indians who work for Convergys of Ohio in
Cincinnati because rather than give a damn about support for the unwashed
masses, or rather than give a damn about employing people in this country,
Microsoft outsourcers to incompetents who know nothing about what they're
doing.
MSFT depends on the groups for real quality support--another population they
could give two shits about.
CH
C
Chad Harris
That's an interesting and by now, appropriate name name Vista ME. Boy
were Allchin and Gates and Ballantine contemptuous of you when they waved
bye bye to those choppers on the Redmond campus full of 16 bit +32 bit
Memory Leaker of all time ME. ME was the best example of MSFT pandering to
their 300 Named OEM partners. You should have heard the Dell Sales Chumps
in the year 2000 when they would try to tell customers that ME would be
easier to use than Win 2K (there was that choice them).
Your next question to them Dell Sales force should have been--can you find
the Start Button ?
_____________
Congratulations Redmonites--Your babe Maria Cantwell voted for the War and
didn't recant. That's why Bill Clinton was there to campaign for Maria.
Congrats Maria. You voted for a FIASCO and everyone should read the
Washington Post's Thomas Ricks
Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq (Hardcover)
by Thomas Ricks
The way to context Vista is this:
"Never blame anything on strategic conspiracy that can be blamed on
passionate incompetence."
CH
were Allchin and Gates and Ballantine contemptuous of you when they waved
bye bye to those choppers on the Redmond campus full of 16 bit +32 bit
Memory Leaker of all time ME. ME was the best example of MSFT pandering to
their 300 Named OEM partners. You should have heard the Dell Sales Chumps
in the year 2000 when they would try to tell customers that ME would be
easier to use than Win 2K (there was that choice them).
Your next question to them Dell Sales force should have been--can you find
the Start Button ?
_____________
Congratulations Redmonites--Your babe Maria Cantwell voted for the War and
didn't recant. That's why Bill Clinton was there to campaign for Maria.
Congrats Maria. You voted for a FIASCO and everyone should read the
Washington Post's Thomas Ricks
Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq (Hardcover)
by Thomas Ricks
The way to context Vista is this:
"Never blame anything on strategic conspiracy that can be blamed on
passionate incompetence."
CH
C
Chad Harris
Yep and the world can respond by not buying Vista and that's just what has
happened. Enterprise migration is way down from expectations. They'll have
piles of Vista to build sliding boards and jungle gyms out of on their
playground. They'll have some left over to do a big sculpture that spells
out Vista ME.
CH
happened. Enterprise migration is way down from expectations. They'll have
piles of Vista to build sliding boards and jungle gyms out of on their
playground. They'll have some left over to do a big sculpture that spells
out Vista ME.
CH
C
Chad Harris
Better improve on your search techniques than Intel.
CH
CH
C
Chad Harris
This is a beta;But; this is easily forgotten.
Baloney. And I haven't easily forgotten this is a Beta. It's a Beta that
needs to be delayed at least 6 more months beyond Jan. into 2007 to get
fixed and likely will be delayed.
The only reason there is public beta is to sell period.
The only reason you can't see where they are with what bugs is they don't
want you to know what a crappy job theiry doing.
The reason they don't allow you to see bug progress is that they have no
regard for you whatsoever.
The reason they say they are considering forever is they regard the public
as consumately stupid. They have some compelling reasons for this. They have
been selling some crap to the public for years.
CH
Baloney. And I haven't easily forgotten this is a Beta. It's a Beta that
needs to be delayed at least 6 more months beyond Jan. into 2007 to get
fixed and likely will be delayed.
The only reason there is public beta is to sell period.
The only reason you can't see where they are with what bugs is they don't
want you to know what a crappy job theiry doing.
The reason they don't allow you to see bug progress is that they have no
regard for you whatsoever.
The reason they say they are considering forever is they regard the public
as consumately stupid. They have some compelling reasons for this. They have
been selling some crap to the public for years.
CH
C
Chad Harris
Considering, considering, hmmmm
\MSFT may qualify as the most arrogant company in the Fortune 500. They're
at the top of the list.
I wonder when they will pick up on the fact that major surveys show a
precipitous drop in companies that are considering not migrating to Vista
and companies who say they absolutely won't migrate to Vista. Many many are
going to wait for Blackcomb Vienna which has a chance to be a bust as well
given the current culture at MSFT and the Sinofsky mottol--"whatever the
hell ya got push it the hell out there."
"A year ago, one of Microsoft's key Windows architects defected to Google.
Now, another operating-system expert has joined Google. The latest Google
hire is Linux expert Andrew Morton, Linus Torvald's right-hand man. As is
the case with Lucovsky, no word on exactly what Morton will be doing at
Google – other than continuing to work on maintaining Linux kernel 2.6."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1999763,00.asp
Where on the horizon is Vista?
http://news.com.com/Where+on+the+horizon+is+Vista/2100-1016_3-6098922.html
Few, though, are taking Microsoft at its word.
"Our estimates have already assumed a delay in the Vista launch to March or
April," Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said in a research note Friday.
Market researcher Gartner said in May that the full launch of Vista could be
pushed back until the second quarter of next year.
Sinofsky has made many moves to block transparency. He's now doctoring the
financials and playing lower East Side 3 Card Monte with them covering up
what is really going on.
He's making secret agreements with the US government to turn over customer
data through his legal staff. They met secretly in Washington DC on it for
two days June 1 and June 2 and won't talk about it. They are pissed off
people know about it.
"Our system auto generates a response to everyone who submits feedback.
Unfortunately, only the testers who are registered through Microsoft Connect
have access privileges to review our feedback. In fairness to those outside
of our betas, this issue is being looked at."
Besides the fact that the Connect idiot hasn't learned not to dangle
prepositions in representations to their customers, this says it all. Let me
translate. "Screw you unwashed pigs. We don't want to make the bugs
transparent because that would be an index of failure and how close we are
to shoving out Vista ME the big bomg and we don't want the public to know
what a piece of crap it is."
I hope the very bright people who post regularly like you do Mark are
getting the message. They have a turkey. They don't want the public to see
how few major bugs have been fixed. Why else in the hell would they not
make them public? LOL Does anyone think Apple will put out a new product
based on the things MSFT's Vista teams cannot or will not fix, some being
major components in the OS?
Again Win RE is failing a high percentage of the time in Vista. They were
supposed to really be making fixing a busted Vista easy. They haven't
because it doesn't work. Repair Install in XP is a sure thing except in rare
circumstances like systemically destroyed partitions or a multi-boot Lilo or
Grub bug in the equation blocking repair install setup.
SFC does not work in RC1 5487.
How many Vista MEs will you be buying? How many Vista MEs will you be
deploying?
If you give me a $100 bill for a $2 item, and you haven't received change
in 14 months, do you feel I'm "considering" giving you change?
I'm considering having Jessica Alba, J-Lo, Penelope Cruz, and Angelina Jole
serve dinner to all the regular posters here on a rotating basis. . The
American Congress is considering Congressional oversight over the fiasco in
Iraq.
Maria Cantwell is considering what to say next about the shitstorm she voted
for in Iraq.
People are considering what a great chance a UN Peace Resolution has in the
Middle East--there are several ignored ones now or the chance of a French
Force going into fight Hezbullah anytime it wants to start. Oh yeah violence
will stop on Monday. The only think Condi knows how to do with efficacy in
NY City is to go to her favorite shoe stores and procure Jimmy Choos and
Manolo Blahniks.
Lebanon is considering when to say it was wrong to come over the border and
kidnap Israeli soldiers. Lebanon and Hezballoah and Syria and Iran are all
pushing to return those soldiers. I haven't heard a hiccup about returning
the soldiers but when Jessica Lynch was missing and the complete lie she was
being mistreated was floated like a National Enquirer head line there was
hell to pay.
I don't see the US mounting any rescue missions for the Israeli soldiers or
even a mention of it.
Israel is considering how to build the moving MRI that will elucidate the
tunnels under the homes and barneswhere they run with missle launchers after
locking innocent farmers in them.
My point consistently has been this "considering" bullshit from MSFT is just
that. Who the hell do they think they are?
Customers want to know that why they have made so little progress with what
is now this morning in RC1 5487.0.06 a colossal bust that TAP users I know
say sucks. I saw it; it sucks on several counts.
*One very quick way to clarify what has been done is to post all the
categories of bugs, and their dispositions. Paul Donnelly damn well knows
what they are.* People know that it's failing on a lot of fronts, and every
day more MVPs point out how. I am fully aware of Alan Simpson's point about
snapshots and interim editions and trials in the next edition of bug fixes
that don't work, but that's also what the labs at MSFT are and what the
developers and PMs get paid to do. It's late in the game for Vista changes,
and as Colin has pointed out, only major bugs are being considered. What
Colin failed to point out is some major buggs are being passed over--the
Vista teams are giving up.
This is a company with extreme contempt for their customers. They
demonstrated that when in 6 years of XP 500 million OEM preinstalled
desktops were denied effective access to boot from a genuine full complement
of code CD. They are doing the same thing with Vista and customers will
leave it on the shelves. Customers are considering that they don't need to
pluck down the money for a broken OS whose makers have consumate contempt
for them.
CH
\MSFT may qualify as the most arrogant company in the Fortune 500. They're
at the top of the list.
I wonder when they will pick up on the fact that major surveys show a
precipitous drop in companies that are considering not migrating to Vista
and companies who say they absolutely won't migrate to Vista. Many many are
going to wait for Blackcomb Vienna which has a chance to be a bust as well
given the current culture at MSFT and the Sinofsky mottol--"whatever the
hell ya got push it the hell out there."
"A year ago, one of Microsoft's key Windows architects defected to Google.
Now, another operating-system expert has joined Google. The latest Google
hire is Linux expert Andrew Morton, Linus Torvald's right-hand man. As is
the case with Lucovsky, no word on exactly what Morton will be doing at
Google – other than continuing to work on maintaining Linux kernel 2.6."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1999763,00.asp
Where on the horizon is Vista?
http://news.com.com/Where+on+the+horizon+is+Vista/2100-1016_3-6098922.html
Few, though, are taking Microsoft at its word.
"Our estimates have already assumed a delay in the Vista launch to March or
April," Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said in a research note Friday.
Market researcher Gartner said in May that the full launch of Vista could be
pushed back until the second quarter of next year.
Sinofsky has made many moves to block transparency. He's now doctoring the
financials and playing lower East Side 3 Card Monte with them covering up
what is really going on.
He's making secret agreements with the US government to turn over customer
data through his legal staff. They met secretly in Washington DC on it for
two days June 1 and June 2 and won't talk about it. They are pissed off
people know about it.
"Our system auto generates a response to everyone who submits feedback.
Unfortunately, only the testers who are registered through Microsoft Connect
have access privileges to review our feedback. In fairness to those outside
of our betas, this issue is being looked at."
Besides the fact that the Connect idiot hasn't learned not to dangle
prepositions in representations to their customers, this says it all. Let me
translate. "Screw you unwashed pigs. We don't want to make the bugs
transparent because that would be an index of failure and how close we are
to shoving out Vista ME the big bomg and we don't want the public to know
what a piece of crap it is."
I hope the very bright people who post regularly like you do Mark are
getting the message. They have a turkey. They don't want the public to see
how few major bugs have been fixed. Why else in the hell would they not
make them public? LOL Does anyone think Apple will put out a new product
based on the things MSFT's Vista teams cannot or will not fix, some being
major components in the OS?
Again Win RE is failing a high percentage of the time in Vista. They were
supposed to really be making fixing a busted Vista easy. They haven't
because it doesn't work. Repair Install in XP is a sure thing except in rare
circumstances like systemically destroyed partitions or a multi-boot Lilo or
Grub bug in the equation blocking repair install setup.
SFC does not work in RC1 5487.
How many Vista MEs will you be buying? How many Vista MEs will you be
deploying?
If you give me a $100 bill for a $2 item, and you haven't received change
in 14 months, do you feel I'm "considering" giving you change?
I'm considering having Jessica Alba, J-Lo, Penelope Cruz, and Angelina Jole
serve dinner to all the regular posters here on a rotating basis. . The
American Congress is considering Congressional oversight over the fiasco in
Iraq.
Maria Cantwell is considering what to say next about the shitstorm she voted
for in Iraq.
People are considering what a great chance a UN Peace Resolution has in the
Middle East--there are several ignored ones now or the chance of a French
Force going into fight Hezbullah anytime it wants to start. Oh yeah violence
will stop on Monday. The only think Condi knows how to do with efficacy in
NY City is to go to her favorite shoe stores and procure Jimmy Choos and
Manolo Blahniks.
Lebanon is considering when to say it was wrong to come over the border and
kidnap Israeli soldiers. Lebanon and Hezballoah and Syria and Iran are all
pushing to return those soldiers. I haven't heard a hiccup about returning
the soldiers but when Jessica Lynch was missing and the complete lie she was
being mistreated was floated like a National Enquirer head line there was
hell to pay.
I don't see the US mounting any rescue missions for the Israeli soldiers or
even a mention of it.
Israel is considering how to build the moving MRI that will elucidate the
tunnels under the homes and barneswhere they run with missle launchers after
locking innocent farmers in them.
My point consistently has been this "considering" bullshit from MSFT is just
that. Who the hell do they think they are?
Customers want to know that why they have made so little progress with what
is now this morning in RC1 5487.0.06 a colossal bust that TAP users I know
say sucks. I saw it; it sucks on several counts.
*One very quick way to clarify what has been done is to post all the
categories of bugs, and their dispositions. Paul Donnelly damn well knows
what they are.* People know that it's failing on a lot of fronts, and every
day more MVPs point out how. I am fully aware of Alan Simpson's point about
snapshots and interim editions and trials in the next edition of bug fixes
that don't work, but that's also what the labs at MSFT are and what the
developers and PMs get paid to do. It's late in the game for Vista changes,
and as Colin has pointed out, only major bugs are being considered. What
Colin failed to point out is some major buggs are being passed over--the
Vista teams are giving up.
This is a company with extreme contempt for their customers. They
demonstrated that when in 6 years of XP 500 million OEM preinstalled
desktops were denied effective access to boot from a genuine full complement
of code CD. They are doing the same thing with Vista and customers will
leave it on the shelves. Customers are considering that they don't need to
pluck down the money for a broken OS whose makers have consumate contempt
for them.
CH
C
Chad Harris
Considering, considering, hmmmm
\MSFT may qualify as the most arrogant company in the Fortune 500. They're
at the top of the list.
I wonder when they will pick up on the fact that major surveys show a
precipitous drop in companies that are considering not migrating to Vista
and companies who say they absolutely won't migrate to Vista. Many many are
going to wait for Blackcomb Vienna which has a chance to be a bust as well
given the current culture at MSFT and the Sinofsky mottol--"whatever the
hell ya got push it the hell out there."
"A year ago, one of Microsoft's key Windows architects defected to Google.
Now, another operating-system expert has joined Google. The latest Google
hire is Linux expert Andrew Morton, Linus Torvald's right-hand man. As is
the case with Lucovsky, no word on exactly what Morton will be doing at
Google – other than continuing to work on maintaining Linux kernel 2.6."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1999763,00.asp
Where on the horizon is Vista?
http://news.com.com/Where+on+the+horizon+is+Vista/2100-1016_3-6098922.html
Few, though, are taking Microsoft at its word.
"Our estimates have already assumed a delay in the Vista launch to March or
April," Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said in a research note Friday.
Market researcher Gartner said in May that the full launch of Vista could be
pushed back until the second quarter of next year.
Sinofsky has made many moves to block transparency. He's now doctoring the
financials and playing lower East Side 3 Card Monte with them covering up
what is really going on.
He's making secret agreements with the US government to turn over customer
data through his legal staff. They met secretly in Washington DC on it for
two days June 1 and June 2 and won't talk about it. They are pissed off
people know about it.
"Our system auto generates a response to everyone who submits feedback.
Unfortunately, only the testers who are registered through Microsoft Connect
have access privileges to review our feedback. In fairness to those outside
of our betas, this issue is being looked at."
Besides the fact that the Connect idiot hasn't learned not to dangle
prepositions in representations to their customers, this says it all. Let me
translate. "Screw you unwashed pigs. We don't want to make the bugs
transparent because that would be an index of failure and how close we are
to shoving out Vista ME the big bomg and we don't want the public to know
what a piece of crap it is."
I hope the very bright people who post regularly like you do Mark are
getting the message. They have a turkey. They don't want the public to see
how few major bugs have been fixed. Why else in the hell would they not
make them public? LOL Does anyone think Apple will put out a new product
based on the things MSFT's Vista teams cannot or will not fix, some being
major components in the OS?
Again Win RE is failing a high percentage of the time in Vista. They were
supposed to really be making fixing a busted Vista easy. They haven't
because it doesn't work. Repair Install in XP is a sure thing except in rare
circumstances like systemically destroyed partitions or a multi-boot Lilo or
Grub bug in the equation blocking repair install setup.
SFC does not work in RC1 5487.
How many Vista MEs will you be buying? How many Vista MEs will you be
deploying?
If you give me a $100 bill for a $2 item, and you haven't received change
in 14 months, do you feel I'm "considering" giving you change?
I'm considering having Jessica Alba, J-Lo, Penelope Cruz, and Angelina Jole
serve dinner to all the regular posters here on a rotating basis. . The
American Congress is considering Congressional oversight over the fiasco in
Iraq.
Maria Cantwell is considering what to say next about the shitstorm she voted
for in Iraq.
People are considering what a great chance a UN Peace Resolution has in the
Middle East--there are several ignored ones now or the chance of a French
Force going into fight Hezbullah anytime it wants to start. Oh yeah violence
will stop on Monday. The only think Condi knows how to do with efficacy in
NY City is to go to her favorite shoe stores and procure Jimmy Choos and
Manolo Blahniks.
Lebanon is considering when to say it was wrong to come over the border and
kidnap Israeli soldiers. Lebanon and Hezballoah and Syria and Iran are all
pushing to return those soldiers. I haven't heard a hiccup about returning
the soldiers but when Jessica Lynch was missing and the complete lie she was
being mistreated was floated like a National Enquirer head line there was
hell to pay.
I don't see the US mounting any rescue missions for the Israeli soldiers or
even a mention of it.
Israel is considering how to build the moving MRI that will elucidate the
tunnels under the homes and barneswhere they run with missle launchers after
locking innocent farmers in them.
My point consistently has been this "considering" bullshit from MSFT is just
that. Who the hell do they think they are?
Customers want to know that why they have made so little progress with what
is now this morning in RC1 5487.0.06 a colossal bust that TAP users I know
say sucks. I saw it; it sucks on several counts.
*One very quick way to clarify what has been done is to post all the
categories of bugs, and their dispositions. Paul Donnelly damn well knows
what they are.* People know that it's failing on a lot of fronts, and every
day more MVPs point out how. I am fully aware of Alan Simpson's point about
snapshots and interim editions and trials in the next edition of bug fixes
that don't work, but that's also what the labs at MSFT are and what the
developers and PMs get paid to do. It's late in the game for Vista changes,
and as Colin has pointed out, only major bugs are being considered. What
Colin failed to point out is some major buggs are being passed over--the
Vista teams are giving up.
This is a company with extreme contempt for their customers. They
demonstrated that when in 6 years of XP 500 million OEM preinstalled
desktops were denied effective access to boot from a genuine full complement
of code CD. They are doing the same thing with Vista and customers will
leave it on the shelves. Customers are considering that they don't need to
pluck down the money for a broken OS whose makers have consumate contempt
for them.
CH
\MSFT may qualify as the most arrogant company in the Fortune 500. They're
at the top of the list.
I wonder when they will pick up on the fact that major surveys show a
precipitous drop in companies that are considering not migrating to Vista
and companies who say they absolutely won't migrate to Vista. Many many are
going to wait for Blackcomb Vienna which has a chance to be a bust as well
given the current culture at MSFT and the Sinofsky mottol--"whatever the
hell ya got push it the hell out there."
"A year ago, one of Microsoft's key Windows architects defected to Google.
Now, another operating-system expert has joined Google. The latest Google
hire is Linux expert Andrew Morton, Linus Torvald's right-hand man. As is
the case with Lucovsky, no word on exactly what Morton will be doing at
Google – other than continuing to work on maintaining Linux kernel 2.6."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1999763,00.asp
Where on the horizon is Vista?
http://news.com.com/Where+on+the+horizon+is+Vista/2100-1016_3-6098922.html
Few, though, are taking Microsoft at its word.
"Our estimates have already assumed a delay in the Vista launch to March or
April," Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said in a research note Friday.
Market researcher Gartner said in May that the full launch of Vista could be
pushed back until the second quarter of next year.
Sinofsky has made many moves to block transparency. He's now doctoring the
financials and playing lower East Side 3 Card Monte with them covering up
what is really going on.
He's making secret agreements with the US government to turn over customer
data through his legal staff. They met secretly in Washington DC on it for
two days June 1 and June 2 and won't talk about it. They are pissed off
people know about it.
"Our system auto generates a response to everyone who submits feedback.
Unfortunately, only the testers who are registered through Microsoft Connect
have access privileges to review our feedback. In fairness to those outside
of our betas, this issue is being looked at."
Besides the fact that the Connect idiot hasn't learned not to dangle
prepositions in representations to their customers, this says it all. Let me
translate. "Screw you unwashed pigs. We don't want to make the bugs
transparent because that would be an index of failure and how close we are
to shoving out Vista ME the big bomg and we don't want the public to know
what a piece of crap it is."
I hope the very bright people who post regularly like you do Mark are
getting the message. They have a turkey. They don't want the public to see
how few major bugs have been fixed. Why else in the hell would they not
make them public? LOL Does anyone think Apple will put out a new product
based on the things MSFT's Vista teams cannot or will not fix, some being
major components in the OS?
Again Win RE is failing a high percentage of the time in Vista. They were
supposed to really be making fixing a busted Vista easy. They haven't
because it doesn't work. Repair Install in XP is a sure thing except in rare
circumstances like systemically destroyed partitions or a multi-boot Lilo or
Grub bug in the equation blocking repair install setup.
SFC does not work in RC1 5487.
How many Vista MEs will you be buying? How many Vista MEs will you be
deploying?
If you give me a $100 bill for a $2 item, and you haven't received change
in 14 months, do you feel I'm "considering" giving you change?
I'm considering having Jessica Alba, J-Lo, Penelope Cruz, and Angelina Jole
serve dinner to all the regular posters here on a rotating basis. . The
American Congress is considering Congressional oversight over the fiasco in
Iraq.
Maria Cantwell is considering what to say next about the shitstorm she voted
for in Iraq.
People are considering what a great chance a UN Peace Resolution has in the
Middle East--there are several ignored ones now or the chance of a French
Force going into fight Hezbullah anytime it wants to start. Oh yeah violence
will stop on Monday. The only think Condi knows how to do with efficacy in
NY City is to go to her favorite shoe stores and procure Jimmy Choos and
Manolo Blahniks.
Lebanon is considering when to say it was wrong to come over the border and
kidnap Israeli soldiers. Lebanon and Hezballoah and Syria and Iran are all
pushing to return those soldiers. I haven't heard a hiccup about returning
the soldiers but when Jessica Lynch was missing and the complete lie she was
being mistreated was floated like a National Enquirer head line there was
hell to pay.
I don't see the US mounting any rescue missions for the Israeli soldiers or
even a mention of it.
Israel is considering how to build the moving MRI that will elucidate the
tunnels under the homes and barneswhere they run with missle launchers after
locking innocent farmers in them.
My point consistently has been this "considering" bullshit from MSFT is just
that. Who the hell do they think they are?
Customers want to know that why they have made so little progress with what
is now this morning in RC1 5487.0.06 a colossal bust that TAP users I know
say sucks. I saw it; it sucks on several counts.
*One very quick way to clarify what has been done is to post all the
categories of bugs, and their dispositions. Paul Donnelly damn well knows
what they are.* People know that it's failing on a lot of fronts, and every
day more MVPs point out how. I am fully aware of Alan Simpson's point about
snapshots and interim editions and trials in the next edition of bug fixes
that don't work, but that's also what the labs at MSFT are and what the
developers and PMs get paid to do. It's late in the game for Vista changes,
and as Colin has pointed out, only major bugs are being considered. What
Colin failed to point out is some major buggs are being passed over--the
Vista teams are giving up.
This is a company with extreme contempt for their customers. They
demonstrated that when in 6 years of XP 500 million OEM preinstalled
desktops were denied effective access to boot from a genuine full complement
of code CD. They are doing the same thing with Vista and customers will
leave it on the shelves. Customers are considering that they don't need to
pluck down the money for a broken OS whose makers have consumate contempt
for them.
CH
D
deebs
Why should any organisation invest into a negative void?
C
Chad Harris
Email (e-mail address removed) and (e-mail address removed) direct.
Considering, considering, hmmmm
\MSFT may qualify as the most arrogant company in the Fortune 500. They're
at the top of the list.
I wonder when they will pick up on the fact that major surveys show a
precipitous drop in companies that are considering not migrating to Vista
and companies who say they absolutely won't migrate to Vista. Many many are
going to wait for Blackcomb Vienna which has a chance to be a bust as well
given the current culture at MSFT and the Sinofsky mottol--"whatever the
hell ya got push it the hell out there."
"A year ago, one of Microsoft's key Windows architects defected to Google.
Now, another operating-system expert has joined Google. The latest Google
hire is Linux expert Andrew Morton, Linus Torvald's right-hand man. As is
the case with Lucovsky, no word on exactly what Morton will be doing at
Google – other than continuing to work on maintaining Linux kernel 2.6."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1999763,00.asp
Where on the horizon is Vista?
http://news.com.com/Where+on+the+horizon+is+Vista/2100-1016_3-6098922.html
Few, though, are taking Microsoft at its word.
"Our estimates have already assumed a delay in the Vista launch to March or
April," Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said in a research note Friday.
Market researcher Gartner said in May that the full launch of Vista could be
pushed back until the second quarter of next year.
Sinofsky has made many moves to block transparency. He's now doctoring the
financials and playing lower East Side 3 Card Monte with them covering up
what is really going on.
He's making secret agreements with the US government to turn over customer
data through his legal staff. They met secretly in Washington DC on it for
two days June 1 and June 2 and won't talk about it. They are pissed off
people know about it.
"Our system auto generates a response to everyone who submits feedback.
Unfortunately, only the testers who are registered through Microsoft Connect
have access privileges to review our feedback. In fairness to those outside
of our betas, this issue is being looked at."
Besides the fact that the Connect idiot hasn't learned not to dangle
prepositions in representations to their customers, this says it all. Let me
translate. "Screw you unwashed pigs. We don't want to make the bugs
transparent because that would be an index of failure and how close we are
to shoving out Vista ME the big bomg and we don't want the public to know
what a piece of crap it is."
I hope the very bright people who post regularly like you do Mark are
getting the message. They have a turkey. They don't want the public to see
how few major bugs have been fixed. Why else in the hell would they not
make them public? LOL Does anyone think Apple will put out a new product
based on the things MSFT's Vista teams cannot or will not fix, some being
major components in the OS?
Again Win RE is failing a high percentage of the time in Vista. They were
supposed to really be making fixing a busted Vista easy. They haven't
because it doesn't work. Repair Install in XP is a sure thing except in rare
circumstances like systemically destroyed partitions or a multi-boot Lilo or
Grub bug in the equation blocking repair install setup.
SFC does not work in RC1 5487.
How many Vista MEs will you be buying? How many Vista MEs will you be
deploying?
If you give me a $100 bill for a $2 item, and you haven't received change
in 14 months, do you feel I'm "considering" giving you change?
I'm considering having Jessica Alba, J-Lo, Penelope Cruz, and Angelina Jole
serve dinner to all the regular posters here on a rotating basis. . The
American Congress is considering Congressional oversight over the fiasco in
Iraq.
Maria Cantwell is considering what to say next about the shitstorm she voted
for in Iraq.
People are considering what a great chance a UN Peace Resolution has in the
Middle East--there are several ignored ones now or the chance of a French
Force going into fight Hezbullah anytime it wants to start. Oh yeah violence
will stop on Monday. The only think Condi knows how to do with efficacy in
NY City is to go to her favorite shoe stores and procure Jimmy Choos and
Manolo Blahniks.
Lebanon is considering when to say it was wrong to come over the border and
kidnap Israeli soldiers. Lebanon and Hezballoah and Syria and Iran are all
pushing to return those soldiers. I haven't heard a hiccup about returning
the soldiers but when Jessica Lynch was missing and the complete lie she was
being mistreated was floated like a National Enquirer head line there was
hell to pay.
I don't see the US mounting any rescue missions for the Israeli soldiers or
even a mention of it.
Israel is considering how to build the moving MRI that will elucidate the
tunnels under the homes and barneswhere they run with missle launchers after
locking innocent farmers in them.
My point consistently has been this "considering" bullshit from MSFT is just
that. Who the hell do they think they are?
Customers want to know that why they have made so little progress with what
is now this morning in RC1 5487.0.06 a colossal bust that TAP users I know
say sucks. I saw it; it sucks on several counts.
*One very quick way to clarify what has been done is to post all the
categories of bugs, and their dispositions. Paul Donnelly damn well knows
what they are.* People know that it's failing on a lot of fronts, and every
day more MVPs point out how. I am fully aware of Alan Simpson's point about
snapshots and interim editions and trials in the next edition of bug fixes
that don't work, but that's also what the labs at MSFT are and what the
developers and PMs get paid to do. It's late in the game for Vista changes,
and as Colin has pointed out, only major bugs are being considered. What
Colin failed to point out is some major buggs are being passed over--the
Vista teams are giving up.
This is a company with extreme contempt for their customers. They
demonstrated that when in 6 years of XP 500 million OEM preinstalled
desktops were denied effective access to boot from a genuine full complement
of code CD. They are doing the same thing with Vista and customers will
leave it on the shelves. Customers are considering that they don't need to
pluck down the money for a broken OS whose makers have consumate contempt
for them.
CH
Considering, considering, hmmmm
\MSFT may qualify as the most arrogant company in the Fortune 500. They're
at the top of the list.
I wonder when they will pick up on the fact that major surveys show a
precipitous drop in companies that are considering not migrating to Vista
and companies who say they absolutely won't migrate to Vista. Many many are
going to wait for Blackcomb Vienna which has a chance to be a bust as well
given the current culture at MSFT and the Sinofsky mottol--"whatever the
hell ya got push it the hell out there."
"A year ago, one of Microsoft's key Windows architects defected to Google.
Now, another operating-system expert has joined Google. The latest Google
hire is Linux expert Andrew Morton, Linus Torvald's right-hand man. As is
the case with Lucovsky, no word on exactly what Morton will be doing at
Google – other than continuing to work on maintaining Linux kernel 2.6."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1999763,00.asp
Where on the horizon is Vista?
http://news.com.com/Where+on+the+horizon+is+Vista/2100-1016_3-6098922.html
Few, though, are taking Microsoft at its word.
"Our estimates have already assumed a delay in the Vista launch to March or
April," Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said in a research note Friday.
Market researcher Gartner said in May that the full launch of Vista could be
pushed back until the second quarter of next year.
Sinofsky has made many moves to block transparency. He's now doctoring the
financials and playing lower East Side 3 Card Monte with them covering up
what is really going on.
He's making secret agreements with the US government to turn over customer
data through his legal staff. They met secretly in Washington DC on it for
two days June 1 and June 2 and won't talk about it. They are pissed off
people know about it.
"Our system auto generates a response to everyone who submits feedback.
Unfortunately, only the testers who are registered through Microsoft Connect
have access privileges to review our feedback. In fairness to those outside
of our betas, this issue is being looked at."
Besides the fact that the Connect idiot hasn't learned not to dangle
prepositions in representations to their customers, this says it all. Let me
translate. "Screw you unwashed pigs. We don't want to make the bugs
transparent because that would be an index of failure and how close we are
to shoving out Vista ME the big bomg and we don't want the public to know
what a piece of crap it is."
I hope the very bright people who post regularly like you do Mark are
getting the message. They have a turkey. They don't want the public to see
how few major bugs have been fixed. Why else in the hell would they not
make them public? LOL Does anyone think Apple will put out a new product
based on the things MSFT's Vista teams cannot or will not fix, some being
major components in the OS?
Again Win RE is failing a high percentage of the time in Vista. They were
supposed to really be making fixing a busted Vista easy. They haven't
because it doesn't work. Repair Install in XP is a sure thing except in rare
circumstances like systemically destroyed partitions or a multi-boot Lilo or
Grub bug in the equation blocking repair install setup.
SFC does not work in RC1 5487.
How many Vista MEs will you be buying? How many Vista MEs will you be
deploying?
If you give me a $100 bill for a $2 item, and you haven't received change
in 14 months, do you feel I'm "considering" giving you change?
I'm considering having Jessica Alba, J-Lo, Penelope Cruz, and Angelina Jole
serve dinner to all the regular posters here on a rotating basis. . The
American Congress is considering Congressional oversight over the fiasco in
Iraq.
Maria Cantwell is considering what to say next about the shitstorm she voted
for in Iraq.
People are considering what a great chance a UN Peace Resolution has in the
Middle East--there are several ignored ones now or the chance of a French
Force going into fight Hezbullah anytime it wants to start. Oh yeah violence
will stop on Monday. The only think Condi knows how to do with efficacy in
NY City is to go to her favorite shoe stores and procure Jimmy Choos and
Manolo Blahniks.
Lebanon is considering when to say it was wrong to come over the border and
kidnap Israeli soldiers. Lebanon and Hezballoah and Syria and Iran are all
pushing to return those soldiers. I haven't heard a hiccup about returning
the soldiers but when Jessica Lynch was missing and the complete lie she was
being mistreated was floated like a National Enquirer head line there was
hell to pay.
I don't see the US mounting any rescue missions for the Israeli soldiers or
even a mention of it.
Israel is considering how to build the moving MRI that will elucidate the
tunnels under the homes and barneswhere they run with missle launchers after
locking innocent farmers in them.
My point consistently has been this "considering" bullshit from MSFT is just
that. Who the hell do they think they are?
Customers want to know that why they have made so little progress with what
is now this morning in RC1 5487.0.06 a colossal bust that TAP users I know
say sucks. I saw it; it sucks on several counts.
*One very quick way to clarify what has been done is to post all the
categories of bugs, and their dispositions. Paul Donnelly damn well knows
what they are.* People know that it's failing on a lot of fronts, and every
day more MVPs point out how. I am fully aware of Alan Simpson's point about
snapshots and interim editions and trials in the next edition of bug fixes
that don't work, but that's also what the labs at MSFT are and what the
developers and PMs get paid to do. It's late in the game for Vista changes,
and as Colin has pointed out, only major bugs are being considered. What
Colin failed to point out is some major buggs are being passed over--the
Vista teams are giving up.
This is a company with extreme contempt for their customers. They
demonstrated that when in 6 years of XP 500 million OEM preinstalled
desktops were denied effective access to boot from a genuine full complement
of code CD. They are doing the same thing with Vista and customers will
leave it on the shelves. Customers are considering that they don't need to
pluck down the money for a broken OS whose makers have consumate contempt
for them.
CH
C
Chad Harris
Considering, considering, hmmmm
I wonder when they will pick up on the fact that major surveys show a
precipitous drop in companies that are considering not migrating to Vista
and companies who say they absolutely won't migrate to Vista. Many many are
going to wait for Blackcomb Vienna which has a chance to be a bust as well
given the current culture at MSFT and the Sinofsky mottol--"whatever the
hell ya got push it the hell out there."
"A year ago, one of Microsoft's key Windows architects defected to Google.
Now, another operating-system expert has joined Google. The latest Google
hire is Linux expert Andrew Morton, Linus Torvald's right-hand man. As is
the case with Lucovsky, no word on exactly what Morton will be doing at
Google – other than continuing to work on maintaining Linux kernel 2.6."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1999763,00.asp
Where on the horizon is Vista?
http://news.com.com/Where+on+the+horizon+is+Vista/2100-1016_3-6098922.html
Few, though, are taking Microsoft at its word.
"Our estimates have already assumed a delay in the Vista launch to March or
April," Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said in a research note Friday.
Market researcher Gartner said in May that the full launch of Vista could be
pushed back until the second quarter of next year.
Sinofsky has made many moves to block transparency. He's now doctoring the
financials and playing lower East Side 3 Card Monte with them covering up
what is really going on.
He's making secret agreements with the US government to turn over customer
data through his legal staff. They met secretly in Washington DC on it for
two days June 1 and June 2 and won't talk about it. They are pissed off
people know about it.
"Our system auto generates a response to everyone who submits feedback.
Unfortunately, only the testers who are registered through Microsoft Connect
have access privileges to review our feedback. In fairness to those outside
of our betas, this issue is being looked at."
Besides the fact that the Connect idiot hasn't learned not to dangle
prepositions in representations to their customers, this says it all. Let me
translate. "Screw you unwashed pigs. We don't want to make the bugs
transparent because that would be an index of failure and how close we are
to shoving out Vista ME the big bomg and we don't want the public to know
what a piece of crap it is."
I hope the very bright people who post regularly like you do Mark are
getting the message. They have a turkey. They don't want the public to see
how few major bugs have been fixed. Why else in the hell would they not
make them public? LOL Does anyone think Apple will put out a new product
based on the things MSFT's Vista teams cannot or will not fix, some being
major components in the OS?
Again Win RE is failing a high percentage of the time in Vista. They were
supposed to really be making fixing a busted Vista easy. They haven't
because it doesn't work. Repair Install in XP is a sure thing except in rare
circumstances like systemically destroyed partitions or a multi-boot Lilo or
Grub bug in the equation blocking repair install setup.
SFC does not work in RC1 5487.
How many Vista MEs will you be buying? How many Vista MEs will you be
deploying?
Customers want to know that why they have made so little progress with what
is now this morning in RC1 5487.0.06 a colossal bust that TAP users I know
say sucks. I saw it; it sucks on several counts.
*One very quick way to clarify what has been done is to post all the
categories of bugs, and their dispositions. Paul Donnelly damn well knows
what they are.* People know that it's failing on a lot of fronts, and every
day more MVPs point out how. I am fully aware of Alan Simpson's point about
snapshots and interim editions and trials in the next edition of bug fixes
that don't work, but that's also what the labs at MSFT are and what the
developers and PMs get paid to do. It's late in the game for Vista changes,
and as Colin has pointed out, only major bugs are being considered. What
Colin failed to point out is some major buggs are being passed over--the
Vista teams are giving up.
This is a company with extreme contempt for their customers. They
demonstrated that when in 6 years of XP 500 million OEM preinstalled
desktops were denied effective access to boot from a genuine full complement
of code CD. They are doing the same thing with Vista and customers will
leave it on the shelves. Customers are considering that they don't need to
pluck down the money for a broken OS whose makers have consumate contempt
for them.
CH
I wonder when they will pick up on the fact that major surveys show a
precipitous drop in companies that are considering not migrating to Vista
and companies who say they absolutely won't migrate to Vista. Many many are
going to wait for Blackcomb Vienna which has a chance to be a bust as well
given the current culture at MSFT and the Sinofsky mottol--"whatever the
hell ya got push it the hell out there."
"A year ago, one of Microsoft's key Windows architects defected to Google.
Now, another operating-system expert has joined Google. The latest Google
hire is Linux expert Andrew Morton, Linus Torvald's right-hand man. As is
the case with Lucovsky, no word on exactly what Morton will be doing at
Google – other than continuing to work on maintaining Linux kernel 2.6."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1999763,00.asp
Where on the horizon is Vista?
http://news.com.com/Where+on+the+horizon+is+Vista/2100-1016_3-6098922.html
Few, though, are taking Microsoft at its word.
"Our estimates have already assumed a delay in the Vista launch to March or
April," Goldman Sachs analyst Rick Sherlund said in a research note Friday.
Market researcher Gartner said in May that the full launch of Vista could be
pushed back until the second quarter of next year.
Sinofsky has made many moves to block transparency. He's now doctoring the
financials and playing lower East Side 3 Card Monte with them covering up
what is really going on.
He's making secret agreements with the US government to turn over customer
data through his legal staff. They met secretly in Washington DC on it for
two days June 1 and June 2 and won't talk about it. They are pissed off
people know about it.
"Our system auto generates a response to everyone who submits feedback.
Unfortunately, only the testers who are registered through Microsoft Connect
have access privileges to review our feedback. In fairness to those outside
of our betas, this issue is being looked at."
Besides the fact that the Connect idiot hasn't learned not to dangle
prepositions in representations to their customers, this says it all. Let me
translate. "Screw you unwashed pigs. We don't want to make the bugs
transparent because that would be an index of failure and how close we are
to shoving out Vista ME the big bomg and we don't want the public to know
what a piece of crap it is."
I hope the very bright people who post regularly like you do Mark are
getting the message. They have a turkey. They don't want the public to see
how few major bugs have been fixed. Why else in the hell would they not
make them public? LOL Does anyone think Apple will put out a new product
based on the things MSFT's Vista teams cannot or will not fix, some being
major components in the OS?
Again Win RE is failing a high percentage of the time in Vista. They were
supposed to really be making fixing a busted Vista easy. They haven't
because it doesn't work. Repair Install in XP is a sure thing except in rare
circumstances like systemically destroyed partitions or a multi-boot Lilo or
Grub bug in the equation blocking repair install setup.
SFC does not work in RC1 5487.
How many Vista MEs will you be buying? How many Vista MEs will you be
deploying?
Customers want to know that why they have made so little progress with what
is now this morning in RC1 5487.0.06 a colossal bust that TAP users I know
say sucks. I saw it; it sucks on several counts.
*One very quick way to clarify what has been done is to post all the
categories of bugs, and their dispositions. Paul Donnelly damn well knows
what they are.* People know that it's failing on a lot of fronts, and every
day more MVPs point out how. I am fully aware of Alan Simpson's point about
snapshots and interim editions and trials in the next edition of bug fixes
that don't work, but that's also what the labs at MSFT are and what the
developers and PMs get paid to do. It's late in the game for Vista changes,
and as Colin has pointed out, only major bugs are being considered. What
Colin failed to point out is some major buggs are being passed over--the
Vista teams are giving up.
This is a company with extreme contempt for their customers. They
demonstrated that when in 6 years of XP 500 million OEM preinstalled
desktops were denied effective access to boot from a genuine full complement
of code CD. They are doing the same thing with Vista and customers will
leave it on the shelves. Customers are considering that they don't need to
pluck down the money for a broken OS whose makers have consumate contempt
for them.
CH
C
Colin Barnhorst
It will always be a failure in your eyes because you want it to fail. You
could not get affirmation of your contrarian feelings if you acknowledged
any success for MS. Jimmy is correct. CPP was never a Vista beta test
program. It was for professionals who will work with Vista to test their
own stuff against it.
could not get affirmation of your contrarian feelings if you acknowledged
any success for MS. Jimmy is correct. CPP was never a Vista beta test
program. It was for professionals who will work with Vista to test their
own stuff against it.
C
Chad Harris
Given the fact that I have about 400 books in this library that say
Microsoft or Windows as a title on the spine Colin, I would really be
twisted if I wanted it to fail. Given that I have every Wiundows XP Hacks
and Cookbook and about 15 other of the better O'Reilly books on Windows, I
would find myself in a really warped position if I wanted any Windows
Operataing system to fail.
Given that I have the highest regard for a name that most people don't
consider a household word, but that I belive is as responsible as anyone for
helping to advance computers and spread their use to people on the planet,
and that's Jim Allchin, I would want the last Operating System he
coordinates and oversees before he retires to be a "paradigm shift
corner-turner." He has already had the courage to delay it once, and I bet
he does that again.
Also considering some of my posts to fix things for people, including
hundreds during the reign of XP on groups and much time spent in chats
fixing XP, and my commitment to try to fix setup problems so that people can
try Vista as you do, I think you would be hard pressed to say I wanted Vista
or any MSFT software to fail.
I'm always going to *have and use their latest mainstream software, and it
doesn't help me a bit for it not to be the best ever. I have all kinds of
ideas for feature for Vista, and I've had them for a long time. I'm not
in any way, shape or form a competitor to Microsoft, or any software
company, or have ever worked in that field or will.
I have though lately watched some office demos in person and some of the
Technet webcasts, and started digging into Office 2007's sites and tutorials
and felt like I'm going to start spending some time trying to ferret out the
differences in Office 2003 and Office 2007.
I found a way to fix one bad Outlook 2007 problem caused by Add/Remove and
the Cleanup Utility not completely getting rid of a crucial file from
Outlook Business Contact Manager and it really got in the way, and was
amazing hoe well things worked once I figured it out and nuked it away. You
have to make sure every file from BCM 2003 is gone, and if you can't open
Outlook properly with scores of Catastropic Error System32_IrisM32.dll boxes
in your face and delete C:\Windows\System 32\IrisM32.dll.
After banging my head against Vista components and trying to get them fixed
and get new features added, it will be fun to see how much Office has
changed.
CH
Microsoft or Windows as a title on the spine Colin, I would really be
twisted if I wanted it to fail. Given that I have every Wiundows XP Hacks
and Cookbook and about 15 other of the better O'Reilly books on Windows, I
would find myself in a really warped position if I wanted any Windows
Operataing system to fail.
Given that I have the highest regard for a name that most people don't
consider a household word, but that I belive is as responsible as anyone for
helping to advance computers and spread their use to people on the planet,
and that's Jim Allchin, I would want the last Operating System he
coordinates and oversees before he retires to be a "paradigm shift
corner-turner." He has already had the courage to delay it once, and I bet
he does that again.
Also considering some of my posts to fix things for people, including
hundreds during the reign of XP on groups and much time spent in chats
fixing XP, and my commitment to try to fix setup problems so that people can
try Vista as you do, I think you would be hard pressed to say I wanted Vista
or any MSFT software to fail.
I'm always going to *have and use their latest mainstream software, and it
doesn't help me a bit for it not to be the best ever. I have all kinds of
ideas for feature for Vista, and I've had them for a long time. I'm not
in any way, shape or form a competitor to Microsoft, or any software
company, or have ever worked in that field or will.
I have though lately watched some office demos in person and some of the
Technet webcasts, and started digging into Office 2007's sites and tutorials
and felt like I'm going to start spending some time trying to ferret out the
differences in Office 2003 and Office 2007.
I found a way to fix one bad Outlook 2007 problem caused by Add/Remove and
the Cleanup Utility not completely getting rid of a crucial file from
Outlook Business Contact Manager and it really got in the way, and was
amazing hoe well things worked once I figured it out and nuked it away. You
have to make sure every file from BCM 2003 is gone, and if you can't open
Outlook properly with scores of Catastropic Error System32_IrisM32.dll boxes
in your face and delete C:\Windows\System 32\IrisM32.dll.
After banging my head against Vista components and trying to get them fixed
and get new features added, it will be fun to see how much Office has
changed.
CH
R
Raven Mill
Chad and Colin:
I know that, as far as you two are concerned, I post not enough answers to
questions regarding Vista to get either of you to care about anything I have
to say. I'm not an "MVP" or a big shot. I am someone who REALLY wants to
see MS get out of the rut it seems to have been in since 98se. I just
started posting in NGs not too long ago after a many year hiatus from that
due to my being annoyed at the amount of "children" on those ngs. I HAVE,
however, been in the computer scene for a VERY long time...
BOTH of you have given answers to questions that people have posted. BOTH
of you seem to "know your stuff" enough to be helpfull here.
So why compete? You two should go into business together...
Or get
married...
I know that, as far as you two are concerned, I post not enough answers to
questions regarding Vista to get either of you to care about anything I have
to say. I'm not an "MVP" or a big shot. I am someone who REALLY wants to
see MS get out of the rut it seems to have been in since 98se. I just
started posting in NGs not too long ago after a many year hiatus from that
due to my being annoyed at the amount of "children" on those ngs. I HAVE,
however, been in the computer scene for a VERY long time...
BOTH of you have given answers to questions that people have posted. BOTH
of you seem to "know your stuff" enough to be helpfull here.
So why compete? You two should go into business together...
Or getmarried...
C
Colin Barnhorst
Yuk!
C
Chad Harris
Raven--
I have seen a ton of Colin's answers and I can assure you that Colin is
answering for the pleasure of helping, giving a terrific amount of time
doing it, and there is no discrimination as to who gets helped. I've never
even thought in those terms on these groups. What I have seen some times,
is that there needs to be more info given up front so the people can best
help.
Who is a "big shot" or whichever is not important in these groups for
getting help. Colin is an MVP because he has provided outstanding
consistent help on the XP and other groups for a good while--and I haven't
seen a MSFT MVP yet who doesn't have considerable depth and accomplishment
in the area of computers and Windows--often they have specialty areas but
they have overall excellent grasps of Windows.
I try to help where I can, if I think I can provide an answer. This is a
new operating system though with a new boot loader and modifications to its
version of the NTFS file system and considerably new ways of doing things
under the hood, and for me, it's going to be a while before I know enough
about some of them to be certain of how best to use them.
Right now there is sparse information available in some areas, but that will
probably change in the next few months when some of the deadlines aren't as
frantic, and some of the better book authors have had a chance to see enough
and gather enough to get their books out.
I would never gauge how much or what someone posts or who they are as to
whether an opinion matters, and I'm in no place to make any kind of
judgement in any direction that way. These are public groups. A lot of of
the names are from computer games.
I use them when I'm taking a break from something, and you can't always read
every post--at least I can't, so I'll look at some of them.
You should feel free to post what you want. No one is passing over your
posts.
CH
I have seen a ton of Colin's answers and I can assure you that Colin is
answering for the pleasure of helping, giving a terrific amount of time
doing it, and there is no discrimination as to who gets helped. I've never
even thought in those terms on these groups. What I have seen some times,
is that there needs to be more info given up front so the people can best
help.
Who is a "big shot" or whichever is not important in these groups for
getting help. Colin is an MVP because he has provided outstanding
consistent help on the XP and other groups for a good while--and I haven't
seen a MSFT MVP yet who doesn't have considerable depth and accomplishment
in the area of computers and Windows--often they have specialty areas but
they have overall excellent grasps of Windows.
I try to help where I can, if I think I can provide an answer. This is a
new operating system though with a new boot loader and modifications to its
version of the NTFS file system and considerably new ways of doing things
under the hood, and for me, it's going to be a while before I know enough
about some of them to be certain of how best to use them.
Right now there is sparse information available in some areas, but that will
probably change in the next few months when some of the deadlines aren't as
frantic, and some of the better book authors have had a chance to see enough
and gather enough to get their books out.
I would never gauge how much or what someone posts or who they are as to
whether an opinion matters, and I'm in no place to make any kind of
judgement in any direction that way. These are public groups. A lot of of
the names are from computer games.
I use them when I'm taking a break from something, and you can't always read
every post--at least I can't, so I'll look at some of them.
You should feel free to post what you want. No one is passing over your
posts.
CH
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Chad Harris
There's no competition among people here that I have seen at all. There may
be some difference of opinion, but as to these groups as a help vehicle,
there isn't any competition at all or difference of opinion at all. There
may be more than one way to skin a cat, and again, this is a new OS and I
know that for me, there are a number of learning curves until I can get more
information on some aspects of it. There are a lot of people who have tons
of help capability with Windows, and who have done an extraordinary job
helping on these groups for years. Some of them choose to spend their time
on closed Beta groups now with the Vista builds and Vista because Beta
groups for the OS only swing into action once every 5-6 years. Others are
still offering terrific help on XP groups or some of the Office groups or
others.
CH
be some difference of opinion, but as to these groups as a help vehicle,
there isn't any competition at all or difference of opinion at all. There
may be more than one way to skin a cat, and again, this is a new OS and I
know that for me, there are a number of learning curves until I can get more
information on some aspects of it. There are a lot of people who have tons
of help capability with Windows, and who have done an extraordinary job
helping on these groups for years. Some of them choose to spend their time
on closed Beta groups now with the Vista builds and Vista because Beta
groups for the OS only swing into action once every 5-6 years. Others are
still offering terrific help on XP groups or some of the Office groups or
others.
CH
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Intel Inside
Chad,
it was a 'tongue in cheek' comment targetted at Mike Mcatee, not you, based
on his 'buggy' post.
Incidentally, I enjoy your posts b/c you inject original thought into this
ng which makes it more interesting.
it was a 'tongue in cheek' comment targetted at Mike Mcatee, not you, based
on his 'buggy' post.
Incidentally, I enjoy your posts b/c you inject original thought into this
ng which makes it more interesting.
I
Intel Inside
Do you, Chad, take Colin, ...
A partnership made in Vista.
A partnership made in Vista.