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Correct, but the Anytime Upgrade certificate may not.

Richard G. Harper said:
Yes, upgrade to upgrade to upgrade IS a supported scenario, at least in
prior Windows versions. I have personally tested Win95 -> Win98 -> WinXP
upgrades and they do work.

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But you would be able to later change to Vista Ultimate, though you
would have to purchase a Full Retail edition of Vista Ultimate, and
install it "clean", since an upgrade to an upgrade is not a valid
upgrade path for Vista (or any version of Windows, for that matter).
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But doesn't that always require inserting the original (non-upgrade)
Windows installation CD during the upgrade process?

And if your computer is, say, a Dell or an HP, with OEM installed
Windows, and you never got an original Windows install CD to go with it,
would you still be able to upgrade your Windows, and then upgrade again,
and again?
 
| But doesn't that always require inserting the original (non-upgrade)
| Windows installation CD during the upgrade process?

Has always worked for me (inserting an upgrade disk during an upgrade install --
3.1>95>98 and NT4>2000>XP Pro)


| And if your computer is, say, a Dell or an HP, with OEM installed
| Windows, and you never got an original Windows install CD to go with it,
| would you still be able to upgrade your Windows, and then upgrade again,
| and again?

Don't know about this case (but unless one keeps the original install partition, I would
think that then you would be screwed and problable then too since in HP"s case XP
and Vista cannot read the partition)


| Richard G. Harper wrote:
| > Yes, upgrade to upgrade to upgrade IS a supported scenario, at least in
| > prior Windows versions. I have personally tested Win95 -> Win98 -> WinXP
| > upgrades and they do work.
| >
 
Vista won't care how you get to a system that can be upgraded with Vista
Upgrade Edition Setup.

Upgrade cd's have always been satisfactory for upgrades from Win95>XP or
Win98>XP or WinME>XP. Full edition cd's were not required. OEM cd's also
worked.

Anyone relying on that long a food chain should consider using an image
backup program like CompletePC Backup to make a base image of the Vista
system for recovery.
 
Inserting the disk is no longer required or possible.
The upgrade proceeds from the previously installed/activated Windows.
Be sure not to delete the hidden partition.
Most of those computers had an option to make the media.
Hopefully the owners made or ordered the media which will be needed sooner
or later.
 
Just one more thing...
I did create backup DVDs of my HP installation partition.
But when I tried to install a generic XP Pro (upgrade), the
DVD was NOT accepted as qualifying media.


| You're very welcome.
|
| | > Thank you--DCR, Colin, and Jupiter--for your answers to my questions :)
| >
| > Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
| >> Inserting the disk is no longer required or possible.
| >> The upgrade proceeds from the previously installed/activated Windows.
| >> Be sure not to delete the hidden partition.
| >> Most of those computers had an option to make the media.
| >> Hopefully the owners made or ordered the media which will be needed
| >> sooner or later.
| >>
|
 
No. I wanted a completely clean XP install (so much junk on the original HP setup),
so I tried using my old generic XP Pro Upgrade disk after deleting the HP partition,
and creating my own partition(s). When the generic XP Pro asked for qualifying media
the HP backup DVD(s) were rejected.

Again, thank you Colin and Jane for the info on Virtual PC. I think it is terrific.


| You restored from the backup media and then the running OS was not accepted?
|
| | > Just one more thing...
| > I did create backup DVDs of my HP installation partition.
| > But when I tried to install a generic XP Pro (upgrade), the
| > DVD was NOT accepted as qualifying media.
| >
| >
| > | > | You're very welcome.
| > |
| > | | > | > Thank you--DCR, Colin, and Jupiter--for your answers to my questions
| > :)
| > | >
| > | > Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
| > | >> Inserting the disk is no longer required or possible.
| > | >> The upgrade proceeds from the previously installed/activated Windows.
| > | >> Be sure not to delete the hidden partition.
| > | >> Most of those computers had an option to make the media.
| > | >> Hopefully the owners made or ordered the media which will be needed
| > | >> sooner or later.
| > | >>
| > |
| >
| >
|
 
Backup media don't work. You have to restore the backup. XP Upgrade Setup
wants to find specific system files on the media. It wouldn't know how to
decipher anything in a backup set.
 
Yes, upgrade to upgrade to upgrade IS a supported scenario, at least in
prior Windows versions. I have personally tested Win95 -> Win98 -> WinXP
upgrades and they do work.
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IS this so? then WHY won't my Windows 98 or Windows ME upgrade disks
work as proof of a valid copy of Windows when I attempt to use them
with my Windows XP upgrade disk? All three are official Microsoft
copies.

Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the original thread and newsgroup.
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Yes, upgrade to upgrade to upgrade IS a supported scenario, at least in
prior Windows versions. I have personally tested Win95 -> Win98 -> WinXP
upgrades and they do work.
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So you used a Windows 85 upgrade disk to prove a valid copy of Windows
for an upgrade you did with a Windows 98 upgrade disk, and the Windows
98 upgrade disk to serve as a valid OS while doing an upgrade using a
Windows XP Upgrade disk?

This is what I mean. One cannot use an upgrade disk to serve as proof
of a valid Windows while using an upgrade disk to upgrade to a higher
version (unless, of course, the second upgrade disk was used to
install Windows over a previous installation on the HD, then the third
upgrade disk was used to upgrade over THAT installation). Doing it
this way requires that three installations must be done.

It IS possible to install XP on a NEW, UNFORMATTED HD using an XP
Upgrade disk by inserting a FULL version (either a retail disk or a
generic OEM disk -- or even a copy of someone else's full version) of
a previous copy of Windows as proof of a valid copy of Windows when
the installer fails to find an OS on the HD.

My experience has been that another upgrade disk will NOT serve as
proof of a previous version of Windows in that case. Only a FULL
RETAIL disk or a FULL OEM disk (or a copy of one of the two) will work
in that case. I have NEVER succeeded in installing XP using an
upgrade disk by using an upgrade copy of a previous version of Windows
to serve as a valid copy of a previous version of Windows.

Think about that for a minute, ok?

IF this were so, then there is very little difference between a FULL
Retail copy of XP and a Retail UPGRADE copy of XP, since BOTH will do
an installation on a NEW, UNFORMATTED HD.

The ONLY difference between using a FULL RETAIL copy or a RETAIL
Upgrade copy is that a PREVIOUS FULL (either Retail, or OEM) copy of
Windows must be used to serve as a previous valid copy of Windows when
using the Retail Upgrade to install Windows on a NEW, UNFORMATTED HD,
and NONE is necessary when using a FULL RETAIL copy.

And if that is so, then Microsoft is not only ripping people off
massively, they are OVERCHARGING them to boot, since there is a $100
premium for XP Pro Full Retail over the XP Pro Retail Upgrade edition.

Are YOU prepared to believe that?

This is what I was referring to, not a previous installation on the
HD. In that case, it is not necessary to insert a disk as proof of a
valid copy of Windows when wiping the HD, then installing Windows
using an upgrade disk, since the existing installation of Windows
serves as the valid copy of a Microsoft OS.

Donald L McDaniel
Please reply to the original thread and newsgroup.
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Only hobbyists or enthusiasts would want to purchase Vista Ultimate,
because they are under the mistaken impression that Vista Ultimate is
like XP Pro. Vista Ultimate is very much a professional product, and
aimed at developers rather than home users, hobbyists, or enthusiasts.
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Vista Ultimate is also good for those who want to play games and watch
movies from their work computer :)
 
I have never purchased a full Windows OS to upgrade. My first PC was a HP
with a OEM Win95a disk. I assembled my next 6 PCs and used upgrade media to
install clean onto a fresh hard drive. Upgrade history was Win95b > Win98 >
Win982nd ed > Win ME> Win2000 Pro > WinXP Pro. No one that I know uses full
install media for upgrades.

mi
 
I have never purchased a full Windows OS to upgrade. My first PC was a HP
with a OEM Win95a disk. I assembled my next 6 PCs and used upgrade media to
install clean onto a fresh hard drive. Upgrade history was Win95b > Win98 >
Win982nd ed > Win ME> Win2000 Pro > WinXP Pro. No one that I know uses full
install media for upgrades.

mi
 
Strange, Windows Mail hiccupped?

miss-information said:
I have never purchased a full Windows OS to upgrade. My first PC was a HP
with a OEM Win95a disk. I assembled my next 6 PCs and used upgrade media
to
install clean onto a fresh hard drive. Upgrade history was Win95b > Win98
Win982nd ed > Win ME> Win2000 Pro > WinXP Pro. No one that I know uses
full
install media for upgrades.

mi
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