SP2 related woes: list any you find here

[Conor]

I see. So, how does a person do that, step-by-step, precisely?

Go to Start, Control Panel, Windows Firewall. Click on Exceptions tab
and eithe Add program or Add port.

 

[Conor]

I still think that every PC should have a floppy drive. Am I wrong?

Yes. Floppies die very easily. Head alignment can differ between two
drives. A bootable CDR is far preferable.

 

[RedBack]

Look, I'll be blunt: I was picking up some Chinese take-out tonight,
and I overheard a nice-looking tattooed geek boy complaining to his pals
about all the progams that are broken by SP2... many of them MICROSOFT
programs, he emphasized. Is it true, or false? Comments?

Mamma where you interested in the geek boy or what they were
saying?...lol

MS own words...Programs that are known to experience a loss of
functionality when they run on a Windows XP Service Pack 2-based
computer....NOTE: "experience a loss of functionality" that doesn't
mean it wont work.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2

List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=811113

IMHO most of the problems are with the firewall and the user settings.
As a previous poster remark, the auto settings for consumers is the
cause of most problems. MS get shot if they leave them open and get
shot if they close them....lol

For me the simplest way is disable the XP firewall and use a third
party one which blocks outgoing too....So far I haven't had any
problems with the systems I have installed it.
On a customers system I just open what they ask me too, if they don't
have a third party firewall.
No one has come back to me complaining YET!...only time will
tell...lol

RedBack

 

[JAD]

Mamma where you interested in the geek boy or what they were
saying?...lol

MS own words...Programs that are known to experience a loss of
functionality when they run on a Windows XP Service Pack 2-based
computer....NOTE: "experience a loss of functionality" that doesn't
mean it wont work.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2

List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=811113

IMHO most of the problems are with the firewall and the user settings.
As a previous poster remark, the auto settings for consumers is the
cause of most problems. MS get shot if they leave them open and get
shot if they close them....lol

For me the simplest way is disable the XP firewall and use a third
party one which blocks outgoing too....So far I haven't had any
problems with the systems I have installed it.
On a customers system I just open what they ask me too, if they don't
have a third party firewall.
No one has come back to me complaining YET!...only time will
tell...lol

RedBack

ok, all well and good, but tell me this , doesn't ms run these patches
on at least 5 machines before releasing a patch, fix, service pack
....or dis-service pac...as it may be.

 

[Conor]

ok, all well and good, but tell me this , doesn't ms run these patches
on at least 5 machines before releasing a patch, fix, service pack
...or dis-service pac...as it may be.

If this was Linux, you wouldn't be complaining but instead shouting
about how all ports are closed and only the ones you need are open.
You'd be shouting how security in Linux was far better than Windows
because of extra steps taken to open files/do things properly.

MS is altering the way things are done. Things now have to be done more
correctly and security orientated which means that the things which
allowed all the haphazard way users do stuff has come to an end and
they're going to have to do things properly. Programmers are no longer
going to be able to rely on using the way Windows behaves when accessed
incorrectly to mask bad programming.

 

[JAD]

If this was Linux, you wouldn't be complaining but instead shouting
about how all ports are closed and only the ones you need are open.
You'd be shouting how security in Linux was far better than Windows
because of extra steps taken to open files/do things properly.

MS is altering the way things are done. Things now have to be done more
correctly and security orientated which means that the things which
allowed all the haphazard way users do stuff has come to an end and
they're going to have to do things properly. Programmers are no longer
going to be able to rely on using the way Windows behaves when accessed
incorrectly to mask bad programming.

good point and very true the longer sloppyness is allowed to
progress, the more it seems it becomes the normal way to do
things -human nature .......i wouldn't complain about linux as i was
on the 12 step program to rid myself of the desire to use it.


Joe

Damn it Jim, I'm a doctor, not a visual basic programmer.

 

[G-Man]

I suppose it's inevitable that SP2 will cause problems. One I know of
is a pal of mine discovered he couldn't ghost drives anymore after
installing SP2.

FWIW, in his business he has a perfectly legitimate reason to ghost
drives. He's got a totally legal copy of the group license version of
XP, precisely for that reason. He called Microsoft tech support and
guess what? It's not a bug, it's a feature!

Another example of Microsoft punishing faithful customers who are honest
people.

The only problem I has was with DivX... Right clicking a folder
caused explorer to crash... once I removed DivX the computer was
fine...

 

[ToolPackinMama]

MS own words...Programs that are known to experience a loss of
functionality when they run on a Windows XP Service Pack 2-based
computer....

NOTE: "experience a loss of functionality" that doesn't
mean it wont work.

NOTE: programs are not sentient, so IMHO they don't experience
anything.

For me the simplest way is disable the XP firewall and use a third
party one which blocks outgoing too....So far I haven't had any
problems with the systems I have installed it.
On a customers system I just open what they ask me too, if they don't
have a third party firewall.
No one has come back to me complaining YET!...only time will
tell...lol

I see. Thank you.