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D. Spencer Hines said:
I've run tests on several machines and CCleaner's Registry Cleaner has
improved performance on nine of them -- as compared to exactly
identical machines without CCleaner.
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Do you have test results you're willing to share? How did you measure
the improvement in performance? Did you control for the effect of
Ccleaner's primary function (clearing temp files)?

I have an open mind. But I would also like to see evidence.
 
I ran careful tests.

Yes, I ran controls.

Run your own tests.

Don't just follow the lowing herd.

DSH
 
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My experience proves otherwise.

DSH
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I clean my Registry periodically with JV16 Powertools 100% only
to get rid of unnessary clutter such as obsolete or invalid keys,
leftover shortcuts and the like. Can't say I have ever seen a
performance increase, though.
 
We ran our own tests with many registry cleaners and the results of our
tests are that cleaning the registry does absolutely nothing to improve
performance.

John
 
Are you saying you would rather not share with us your results? Since
you're making a claim, I wanted to give you the opportunity to back it
up. Perhaps I will run my own tests some time in the future. But for
now, I'd like to see evidence from someone who has experience.

I don't see it as a matter of following any herd. Rather, it's an
application of critical thinking and the scientific method. If the herd
also shares my value of wanting to see evidence, then perhaps it's not
such a bad herd to belong to.
 
I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. <g>

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed -- No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the Registry.
So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
 
he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.



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yeh, that's an excellent
one.

i remember chatting with
him on a couple of occassions
a few years ago - a humble
genuis; he is.


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Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

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No bait. You're the one who made the claim. I've used Ccleaner and have
only found the clearing of temp files to be beneficial. If you've done
more extensive testing, good for you. But bear in mind that is was YOU
who made the claim in the first place! And I still find it interesting
you're unwilling to back it up.

Belief and knowledge are two different things...
 
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
 
oh..., back off.

it was he who was
providing a suggestion
and it wasn't provided
to you.

ps: you were baiting him
because you wanted to make
this discussion into an argument.

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Unknown said:
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
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I can think of one scenario where the use of a registry cleaner might improve
performance, but it would require the use of two additional programs. Here's the
four-step process:

1. use registry cleaner
2. defragment volume that contains registry
3. use registry compacter (eg, NTREGOPT)
4. reboot system

Using this process, NTREGOPT will create a new, smaller registry that will not
be fragmented. Defragmenting the registry in this fashion WILL have a positive
impact on performance, particularly during the boot process when large chunks of
the registry are manipulated.

Now, one can argue whether the performance boost was due to NTREGOPT or the
registry cleaner, but that's for others to debate. For what it's worth, I use
NTREGOPT every couple months, but I never use a registry cleaner. For many
reasons, I perform registry cleaning tasks manually...
 
You in no way accomplished my request. Give me a logical explanation not a
sales pitch. If you have games installed on your computer would you speed up
your computer if you deleted them? Get realistic.
 
well,
it makes no difference
to me or microsoft or
the world.

unfortunate for you that
no one here owes you
any explanations about
anything.

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Unfortunate part is that they are neither safe or effective.
Post facts not your emotions.
 
John John added these comments in the current discussion du jour
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If it is so great why haven't they (Microsoft OneCare)
included a registry cleaner in their product? Maybe it's
because registry cleaning provides too great risks of damages
while doing nothing to improve performance...
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For reasons known only to Bill Gates and God - is that the same
thing? - MS has eshewed all kinds of useful utilities and allowed
the 3rd party folks to take center stage. I've always wondered
what MS might've been able to do had they really tried.
Seriously, with no hint whatsoever about MS bashing, who better
to write competant utilities than the designer/builder of the
O/S?
 
I Agree.

BUT it's the damned COURTS and LEGISLATURES that have done that to
Microsoft.

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas
 
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