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I listed some MS apps on the Prog. Info pages that are not freeware -
but are often suggested in ACF in response to requests. Free *if* you
have the OS.
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Having thought about it ...same applies here i guess. Thing is,if you
do ftp search for winfile.exe (pick any engine at
<http://www.ftpsearchengines.com/>) you'll find it (various versions
of it) distributed all over the place, in NT\SP directories as well as
older versions from Win3x etc. Thus, I can see no harm in linking to
it. But on the other hand, this is an old Windows File Manger, which
exist in many versions (updates), and some may be buggy (as I have
just learned, see below), and since we have so many new free new ones
- we probably do not *need* a link for it. So I suggest - don't list
it.

Bug: The file I posted a link to is from Windows NT4 (file version
4.0.1371.1.). It seems it is buggy. Posted a note about this in the
thread where I posted the URL. It would not display \WinnT on my C_
drive. Only, I figured it was not a bug, but a feature <g> .... but
not anymore. Found a more recent version (v 4.0.1381.91)
<ftp://ftp2.granit.ru/Microsoft/NT/ServPack4/Year2000/SP/i386/winfile.exe>
which did away with the "feature", or more likely a bug :)

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
Bjorn said:
Having thought about it ...same applies here i guess. Thing is,if you
do ftp search for winfile.exe (pick any engine at
<http://www.ftpsearchengines.com/>) you'll find it (various versions
of it) distributed all over the place, in NT\SP directories as well as
older versions from Win3x etc. Thus, I can see no harm in linking to
it. But on the other hand, this is an old Windows File Manger, which
exist in many versions (updates), and some may be buggy (as I have
just learned, see below), and since we have so many new free new ones
- we probably do not *need* a link for it. So I suggest - don't list
it.
Click to expand...

Sounds like a plan to me. I'll won't show it on the web page. Thanks
again for the list - the apps have been added. (revised pages soon)

Susan
 
[ http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/programs/P_CategoryIndex.php ]
I listed some MS apps on the Prog. Info pages that are not freeware -
but are often suggested in ACF in response to requests. Free *if* you
have the OS. (Can't remember ATM but think I just said MS in the Ware
column.) ISTM that's sort of a gray area - something for the group to
decide - leave them in or take them out?
Click to expand...

There is already sw made by MSFT in the PL. Making a new rule that MSFT
categorically not allowed would be most strange. The special ware column
for MSFT is a good compromise. Let's you know that the license might be
be weird reading.

Speaking of grey area, and this is the actual topic I wanted to mention.
PC Mag utils. Even thought they are regularly recommended in ACF, it'd
be hard to put them in the category of freeware. I'm curious to get
clarification about the decision. The inclusion of this Ware type.

PCMag Ware: - Free to use if you have it on your computer
- Absolutely prohibited to redistribute
 
http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/programs/P_CategoryIndex.php

Susan, how about the matter of Requests for Removals?

If that were to be in the procedures, then I have an immediate one. I
request that the following are removed:

BABYA PHOTO WORKSHOP GRAPHICS
BABYA SYSTEM 2004 DESKTOP
BABYA*

There is not one person on ACF who will use these worthless things.
Secondly, there is the matter of the Babya maker's abuse of public
forums, including ACF. His relentless disruptions, his maniacal
self-promotions.
 
omega wrote in said:
PCMag Ware: - Free to use if you have it on your computer
- Absolutely prohibited to redistribute
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If the license (for the individual distribution) says so. AFAIK - from
a quick look in my pcmag archive collection, it seems pcmag
(Ziff-Davis) started to add such "no distribution" clauses to their
various util archives some time in 1998.
Btw, see <http://garbo.uwasa.fi/pub/pc/pcmagutl/pcmagutl.txt>

Ergo, better not list.

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/programs/P_ProgramIndex.php

Susan Bugher said:
I listed some MS apps on the Prog. Info pages that are not freeware -
but are often suggested in ACF in response to requests. Free *if* you
have the OS.
Click to expand...

I am more leaned towards the opinion that we should not crowd into the
listing the ~60 or whatever it is applets that are distributed as part
of the Windows CD.

If do go with rule of thumb of no applets that come as part of Windows,
that would wipe the following (and any similars that I did not spot):

Wordpad
Windows calculator
Windows sound recorder
Msconfig

A slightly less simple matter would be something like this (from the list):

Windows media player

Its difference is that there are new releases continuously available,
notably different than which was originally included as part of the
Windows CD.

And then for that particular example, the Windows Media Player, we have
another subject. That this procuct gets much worse with each higher version.
So its inclusion would have to be treated with special attention.
 
Susan Bugher wrote in said:
First, Tubonavigator is currently listed on your P page with download
Click to expand...

IMO v 1.47 should not be recommended. [...]
Click to expand...

Thanks for the info, appreciated!

Couple more items for the FM category:

muCommander <http://freshmeat.net/projects/mucommander/> **
"muCommander is a cross-platform file manager. It features a
Norton Commander-style interface and runs on any OS that has
support for the Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition."

Some File-Manager addons from: <http://www.winability.com/fmutils/>
Formerly shareware - now free.
FM StepUp for Windows 3.1x/95/98 (16-bit version) FREE!
FM StepUp NT for Windows NT 3.5x/4.0 (32-bit version) FREE!
FM Toolbar for Windows 3.1x/95/98 (16-bit version) FREE!
FM Guardfor Windows 3.1x/95/98 (16-bit version) FREE!


Some Explorer addons from <http://www.baxbex.com/products.html>
Free for use at home [separat downloads]
OpenExpert - Open With submenu for explorer's menu
FolderBox - displays additional folders
in the lower part of Explorer
bxNewFolder - Use a hotkey to create a folder

Notice, of the latter three you already have
FolderBox -> FILE UTILITIES
Folder box -> FILE UTILITIES
but not AFAIK: bxNewFolder

All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
 
[ http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/programs/P_ProgramIndex.php ]

I'm wondering if it would be a reasonable idea to post a list of the prog
entries that need URLs. For people to post any applicable URLs that they
know. Would it make a mess, or could it help? A list in some variation of
this form...

1st impression [cat: desktop]
4t tray minimizer [cat: desktop]
Ago soft mail server [cat: Internet]
All thumbs as [cat: graphics]
Altavista toolbar [cat: Internet]
Anagram master [cat: business-home]
Analogx dhcp fix [cat: security]
Analogx proxy [cat: Internet]
Any password [cat: security]
Aol press [cat: web design]
Ar ram disk system [cat: utilities]
Arcset file [cat: utilities]
Asctotab [cat: web design]
Astrolog [cat: business-home]
Audio galaxy [cat: Internet]
Automated composing system [cat: multimedia]
Axcrypt [cat: security]
Barlaunch [cat: desktop]
Beos personal edition system [cat: utilities]
Bginfo [cat: desktop]
Bibibamos [cat: organizers]
Bluevade hotkey [cat: desktop]
Bookreader [cat: text]
Borderline address book [cat: organizers]
Break time [cat: organizers]
Browsersizer [cat: web design]
Cache booster system [cat: utilities]
Calc98 [cat: business-home]
Ccs screen capture crop & stitch [cat: desktop]
Cdswitch system [cat: utilities]
Character clips [cat: business-home]
Clint's wallpaper master [cat: desktop]
Clipboard magic [cat: desktop]
Coffeecup image slicer [cat: web design]
Componentsoftware diff (csdiff) [cat: text]
Contextedit file [cat: utilities]
Cpu eat 'n' cool system [cat: utilities]
Createfil.Exe system [cat: utilities]
Cryptext [cat: security]
Cse html validator [cat: web design]
Customizeie [cat: Internet]
D++ [cat: Internet]
Dbackup system [cat: utilities]
Delphi 6 pe ( [cat: programming]
Depends.Exe system [cat: utilities]
Desktopshield [cat: security]
Directx (multimedia) system [cat: utilities]
Dirgraph [cat: organizers]
Partinfo [cat: organizers]
Down2home [cat: Internet]
Download accelerator plus [cat: Internet]
Dssfv file [cat: utilities]
Eags on! [cat: multimedia]
Easy md5 creator file [cat: utilities]
Easy message express ( [cat: Internet]
Easy sfv creator file [cat: utilities]
Eclipse [cat: programming]
Editbini system [cat: utilities]
Edxor [cat: text]
Ef commander file [cat: utilities]
Emacs [cat: text]
Emeditor 1.27 [cat: text]
Ems free surver mk ii [cat: Internet]
Eudora lite [cat: Internet]
Explore for files [cat: desktop]
Ezpop [cat: Internet]
Fat32win.Exe system [cat: utilities]
Favorites home page [cat: Internet]
Favorites search [cat: Internet]
Fidolook sl [cat: Internet]
File maven system [cat: utilities]
Fileinfo.Exe system [cat: utilities]
Filenote file [cat: utilities]
Filex file [cat: utilities]
Finger [cat: Internet]
Flashget [cat: Internet]
Folder organiser file [cat: utilities]
Foobar2000 [cat: multimedia]
Freedist [cat: text]
Freeguide tv guide [cat: multimedia]
Freezip file [cat: utilities]
Freshicons [cat: graphics]
Fsraid file [cat: utilities]
Ftp explorer [cat: Internet]
Ftp wanderer [cat: Internet]
Ftp [cat: Internet]
Ftpgenius [cat: Internet]
Geoshell [cat: Internet]
Gfi languard system integrity monitor [cat: utilities]
Gnucleus [cat: Internet]
Gnupg [cat: security]
Gtk-gnutella [cat: Internet]
Gui4cli [cat: programming]
Handybits system [cat: utilities]
Hermes mail server [cat: Internet]
Hidefiles [cat: security]
Hot key plus [cat: desktop]
Html splitter [cat: web design]
Html2ps [cat: text]
Ian's beat [cat: multimedia]
Ics configuration [cat: web design]
Id-blaster plus [cat: security]
Ie [cat: Internet]
Ilsystem wiper system [cat: utilities]
Insert toggle key (itk) [cat: desktop]
Installfile system [cat: utilities]
Intellipoint 4.1 [cat: desktop]
Inya renamer file [cat: utilities]
Iomega hotburn [cat: multimedia]
Ipconfig & arp [cat: Internet]
Jasp file [cat: utilities]
Jazz++ [cat: multimedia]
Jbcat [cat: organizers]
Jv16 powertools system utilities jouni vuorio
kaufman ftp [cat: Internet]
Kill.Exe system [cat: utilities]
Kodak imaging [cat: graphics]
Lastqf file [cat: utilities]
Layout [cat: desktop]
Lightningsearch file [cat: utilities]
Lister file [cat: utilities]
Logitech's mouseware [cat: desktop]
Madotate [cat: desktop]
Mdi pad [cat: text]
Mehul's backup system [cat: utilities]
Mercury editor [cat: web design]
Mercury [cat: Internet]
Midioz arp lite [cat: multimedia]
Mind explosion [cat: business-home]
Miniapps system [cat: utilities]
Monitor off [cat: desktop]
Moonfish [cat: multimedia]
Mousetool [cat: desktop]
Mozilla thunderbird [cat: Internet]
Msdvr 2000 [cat: multimedia]
Mz-tools [cat: programming]
Nconvert [cat: graphics]
Net disable [cat: Internet]
Netants [cat: Internet]
Netmeter downloads [cat: Internet]
Netpersec [cat: Internet]
Netscape [cat: Internet]
Nfilter [cat: Internet]
Notemaid [cat: text]
Octopus [cat: Internet]
Ogg vorbis [cat: multimedia]
Oggdropxpd [cat: multimedia]
Oleview.Exe [cat: programming]
Otaku mascot [cat: desktop]
Pal talk [cat: Internet]
Pam [cat: multimedia]
Pan [cat: Internet]
Passwords database [cat: security]
Past present & future [cat: organizers]
Pc-link system [cat: utilities]
Phonefree [cat: Internet]
Pick-a-tag [cat: Internet]
Ping [cat: Internet]
Polderbackup system [cat: utilities]
Poppy for windows [cat: Internet]
Popup manager [cat: Internet]
Poster [cat: business-home]
Powermenu file [cat: utilities]
Pregnancy calculator [cat: business-home]
Privoxy [cat: Internet]
Proxy auto configuration [cat: Internet]
Pspad [cat: programming]
Psycle [cat: multimedia]
Ptb sync [cat: organizers]
Purevoice [cat: Internet]
Quasi-fractal composer [cat: multimedia]
Quick 'n easy ftp server [cat: Internet]
Quick favorites search (qfs) [cat: Internet]
Quick shutdown [cat: desktop]
Quickbasic [cat: programming]
Quicksilver [cat: Internet]
Ramidle system [cat: utilities]
Rawwritewin (floppy imaging) system [cat: utilities]
Read only zero file [cat: utilities]
Realplayer [cat: multimedia]
Recyclenow [cat: desktop]
Reliable [cat: Internet]
Remindisk [cat: desktop]
Renamer (404) file [cat: utilities]
Resman system [cat: utilities]
Roundabout (based on phoenix mail (pmo)) [cat: Internet]
Runit launchpad [cat: desktop]
Savant web server [cat: Internet]
Scale 2.0 [cat: graphics]
Scandefrag file [cat: utilities]
Scribe [cat: Internet]
Search bar pro / searchbar [cat: Internet]
Sendtoback [cat: desktop]
Sentinel [cat: security]
Serif 3d plus 2 [cat: graphics]
Serif drawplus [cat: graphics]
Seti spy [cat: business-home]
Shark-post [cat: Internet]
Simplecopier [cat: business-home]
Simply cool ftp [cat: Internet]
Slrn [cat: Internet]
Smart uninstaller system [cat: utilities]
Smbios system [cat: utilities]
Socseccalculator [cat: business-home]
Space [cat: organizers]
Spambot countermeasure [cat: security]
Splashkiller [cat: desktop]
Split files shell extension file [cat: utilities]
Splitter & merger file [cat: utilities]
Syn [cat: text]
Synthesiser [cat: multimedia]
System icon cleaner (404) system [cat: utilities]
System security 2002 [cat: security]
Taxact [cat: business-home]
Tcp optimizer (tcp/ip optimizer) [cat: Internet]
Telnet [cat: Internet]
Testdisk system [cat: utilities]
Textfind file [cat: utilities]
Thumbhtml [cat: web design]
Thunderbird (phoenix mail) (roundabout) [cat: Internet]
Titletime [cat: organizers]
Tlist.Exe system [cat: utilities]
Tortoisecvs file [cat: utilities]
Traceroute [cat: Internet]
Trans text 1.20 [cat: desktop]
Tray commander [cat: desktop]
Ts-404 synthesizer [cat: multimedia]
Tsw webcoder [cat: web design]
Tweakall [cat: programming]
Tzedit.Exe [cat: desktop]
Ultimate paint [cat: graphics]
Unplug n' pray (unpnp) [cat: security]
Urlmenu [cat: Internet]
Uudwin [cat: Internet]
Vaz [cat: multimedia]
Vbsftp [cat: Internet]
Vcool system [cat: utilities]
Videolan client [cat: multimedia]
Viplay [cat: multimedia]
Vueslide [cat: graphics]
Wallpaper cycler [cat: desktop]
Warftpd [cat: Internet]
Waterfall system [cat: utilities]
Wave editor [cat: multimedia]
Wcpuid system [cat: utilities]
Web copier [cat: Internet]
Webmaster [cat: Internet]
Webthumb [cat: web design]
Wemail [cat: Internet]
Wget [cat: Internet]
What to do [cat: organizers]
Whej startup manager system [cat: utilities]
Whiz launcher mini [cat: desktop]
Win95 resource kit [cat: desktop]
Win9x/me taskmanager (s) system [cat: utilities]
Winamp classic [cat: multimedia]
Windiff (verify cds) file [cat: utilities]
Windiff.Exe file [cat: utilities]
Windows privacy tools (winpt) [cat: security]
Windriverexpert system [cat: utilities]
Winlogo changer1.2 [cat: desktop]
Winsystem98 [cat: organizers]
Wintop system [cat: utilities]
Winvorbis and vorbix [cat: multimedia]
Wwwtest [cat: web design]
Wxtide32 [cat: business-home]
Xcat - keyboard network leds [cat: Internet]
Xm player [cat: multimedia]
Xms.Ems ramdisk system [cat: utilities]
Xvi32 [cat: programming]
Ymsgr (yahoo) [cat: Internet]
Zip 2 secure exe file [cat: utilities]
Zipcentral file [cat: utilities]
Zipnote [cat: organizers]
 
Susan, how about the matter of Requests for Removals?

A couple more Requests for Removal.

1. ACDSEE.

Did I miss something? Was there ever a freeware version?


2. Association Manager (1.3a By Alexander Peckover)

This program is severely broken and does damage to the registry. Even on
a bare, virgin system with a small registry, it inflicts a nasty number
of erroneous and bad entries. Matters become much worse when this prog
hits a full, developed registry. I have taken logs of its behaviors
on both a virgin system and my own. I've warned about it in ACF. And I
make this final effort here. To advise it not be linked for download by
the unwarned.
 
omega said:
Susan Bugher <[email protected]>:

[ http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/programs/P_CategoryIndex.php ]

Speaking of grey area, and this is the actual topic I wanted to mention.
PC Mag utils. Even thought they are regularly recommended in ACF, it'd
be hard to put them in the category of freeware. I'm curious to get
clarification about the decision. The inclusion of this Ware type.
Click to expand...

They are there for information - as a heads-up - these *aren't* freeware
now. I'm hoping to avoid a repeat of last year when several PCMag
programs were nominated for the PL. :)

I also included the few PW 01-03 programs that are now $ware and don't
AFAIK have a last freeware version available - with a "now $ware"
notation. Again that's just for information . . .

ISTM that it would be useful to have some information like that included
- *final* decision is up to the group - include or omit?

Susan
 
[ http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/programs/P_ProgramIndex.php ]

Any use for a few author entries into the data? Or would it be too
impractical, too get data of this form entered in?


AceHTML Free Visicom Media
AceFTP Visicom Media
AceMoney Lite MechCAD Software
AC Broswer Konrad Papala
AD-AWARE Lavasoft Team
ACF Notes Ur I.T. Mate Group (Steven Burn)
Adobe* Adobe
Amaya W3C
AnalogX* AnalogX
AntiVir PE H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH
AsciiDif Adrian Carter
Atlantis Nova Rising Sun Solutions
AutoIt Jonathan Bennett
BatchRun Outer Technologies
Bookmark Manager (BMM) R. Vasicek
BookmarkPriest Philip Perkmann
Bookmark Wizare Moon Software
BrainBox circle-of-excellence (Peter E.H. Smee)
Cacheman Outer Technologies
Capture AnalogX
Calypso Micro Computer Systems
Catfish Equi4 Software (Jean-Claude Wippler)
CD2HTML Falk Petro
Clean System Directory Kevin Solway
Cociter - Cogitum Co-Citer [internet - browser tool] Cogitum LLC
ColorBox Kobayashi Software
Color Selector KOY Software
Color Set Arisesoft
Columnizer Gulf Coastal Freeware
Comparator SoftByte Labs
Compfold Malcolm Pescod
Cool Beans System Info Cool Beans Software
Correlate PE Correlate Technologies
Crypt Edit Polysoft (Ulyanov Ilya)
CSDiff ComponentSoftware, Inc
CSE HTML Validator AI Internet Solutions
CWordpad Cetus Software
Display Partition Information (Partinfo) Powerquest
CustomizeIE NirSoft (Nir Sofer)
Depends.exe - Dependency Walker Steve P Miller; (c) MSFT;
DependencyWalker.com
dBworx PLWorx Software Development
Dialog Box Assistant Duality Software
Dupelocator Midnight Blue Software
Editor2 Nikos Bozinis
Edxor Dariusz Stanislawek
FavTool Microsoft
FileAsoc RHA (Minisystems)
FileNote Moon Software
FileTargets Moon Software
FolderBox BAxBEx Software
Fontlister Peter Theill
Freezip Dariusz Stanislawek
Fresh Diagnose FreshDevices Software
Fresh Download FreshDevices Software
Hostess Ray Marron
HTML2Table Stefan Pettersson
HTMStrip Wayne Software (Bruce Guthrie)
JBCat Jan van den Borst
 
Susan Bugher said:
[ http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/programs/P_CategoryIndex.php ]

Speaking of grey area, and this is the actual topic I wanted to mention.
PC Mag utils. Even thought they are regularly recommended in ACF, it'd
be hard to put them in the category of freeware.
Click to expand...

They are there for information - as a heads-up - these *aren't* freeware
now. I'm hoping to avoid a repeat of last year when several PCMag
programs were nominated for the PL. :)

I also included the few PW 01-03 programs that are now $ware and don't
AFAIK have a last freeware version available - with a "now $ware"
notation. Again that's just for information . . .

ISTM that it would be useful to have some information like that included
- *final* decision is up to the group - include or omit?
Click to expand...

Approach One. This list is freeware. It is less strictly freeware than
(what should be) high standards of PL; but more strictly freeware than
what gets discussed in ACF.

Approach Two. This is mostly freeware. Also included is this type of
exception: PCMag ware; former PLs turned pay; xxx. And there will be
a symbol or a color to demark these...

Approach Three. (?)
 
omega said:
A couple more Requests for Removal.

1. ACDSEE.

Did I miss something? Was there ever a freeware version?
Click to expand...

<q>
ACDSEE earlier ver 2.2 is freeware and available at

http://www.oldos.org/files/acdsee22win31.exe
2. Association Manager (1.3a By Alexander Peckover)

This program is severely broken and does damage to the registry. Even on
a bare, virgin system with a small registry, it inflicts a nasty number
of erroneous and bad entries. Matters become much worse when this prog
hits a full, developed registry. I have taken logs of its behaviors
on both a virgin system and my own. I've warned about it in ACF. And I
make this final effort here. To advise it not be linked for download by
the unwarned.
Click to expand...

IMO this is a *key* question. What do we do about programs that get a
bad review? I tend to save info about bad programs in order to avoid
them. ISTM that adding a warning would be better than omitting those
programs from the list. Agree? Disagree?

Susan
 
omega said:
Susan, how about the matter of Requests for Removals?

If that were to be in the procedures, then I have an immediate one. I
request that the following are removed:

BABYA PHOTO WORKSHOP GRAPHICS
BABYA SYSTEM 2004 DESKTOP
BABYA*
Click to expand...

I agree. They got added because they were nominated by A.A. for PL2004.
There are a few other programs from the PL2004 nominations that IMO
should be removed - TBD.

Susan
 
Susan Bugher said:
<q>
ACDSEE earlier ver 2.2 is freeware and available at

http://www.oldos.org/files/acdsee22win31.exe
</>
Click to expand...

Gee, never knew! That it had never been freeware was an assumption
I'd had my whole life long....
IMO this is a *key* question. What do we do about programs that get a
bad review? I tend to save info about bad programs in order to avoid
them. ISTM that adding a warning would be better than omitting those
programs from the list. Agree? Disagree?
Click to expand...

That discussion last winter, some people were saying how much they would
value some attention to having thumbs-down type of reviews associated with
programs. I guess you could set that up with the "more info" links...

.. . .

But a program like this one here, it is beyond a thumbs-down. Normal bad
would be it's lame, doesn't work correctly, etc. Wrecking the registry,
that's as serious a matter, I should think, as programs that are malignant
to the system by /calculated/ design (adware and spyware).

This program is also distinct for another reason. Usually when something
does some great mound of trash into the registry, it's during install, or
first run, and that's when we're monitoring, and thus can quickly recover.
But this one, it's damage is done only later, when you don't expect, when
you have clicked an innocent command. And it is not something you can undo
afterwards, its intricrate rewriting of the HKCR filetype keys. Not unless
you had a regmon running specifically at that time.

It is not a program that is around very many parts. I think it could easily
die off on its own. I'd like to see it deleted out of existence. Probably
the programmer feels the same way (notice he now keeps no web presence for
it), having discovered his mistakes.
 
Susan Bugher said:
I agree. They got added because they were nominated by A.A. for PL2004.
There are a few other programs from the PL2004 nominations that IMO
should be removed - TBD.
Click to expand...

Those drive-by nominations. GRRR.
 
omega said:
http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/programs/P_ProgramIndex.php




I am more leaned towards the opinion that we should not crowd into the
listing the ~60 or whatever it is applets that are distributed as part
of the Windows CD.

If do go with rule of thumb of no applets that come as part of Windows,
that would wipe the following (and any similars that I did not spot):

Wordpad
Windows calculator
Windows sound recorder
Msconfig
Click to expand...

I disagree. When someone has a task they want to perform and wants to
know what apps can do the job these are often mentioned. ISTM the list
should provide that information too.
A slightly less simple matter would be something like this (from the list):

Windows media player

Its difference is that there are new releases continuously available,
notably different than which was originally included as part of the
Windows CD.

And then for that particular example, the Windows Media Player, we have
another subject. That this procuct gets much worse with each higher version.
So its inclusion would have to be treated with special attention.
Click to expand...

The Program Information pages just tell people a program exists. . .

Susan
 
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