Pricelessware CD edition

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SINNER said:
While strolling through alt.comp.freeware, Susan Bugher was
overheard plotting:
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In the MAME group we have at least 20 burners that do this for FREE and
MAME roms are take up 20 GIGS (thats 5 DVD's) Linux users also provide
Bootable Distros and FULL distros via the same methods. All it takes is
a couple of voulenteers to get it started, Once you have a standard set
coming up with an 'update' cd would take even less effort.

In short is is a great idea and TOTALLY doable.
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Thanks SINNER. I just did a little looking around. These pages have
details on how the distribution process works in the MAME group:
[...]

All an ACF volunteer would have to do is burn a copy of the CD and drop
it in the mail (once the initial CD was created). :)

OO also has some CD distribution info:

http://distribution.openoffice.org/cdrom/#cdrom
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I haven't gotten around to burn them yet but won't the downloads at
Pricelessware.org take more than one disk?
 
I haven't gotten around to burn them yet but won't the downloads at
Pricelessware.org take more than one disk?
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I suspect you're right. IIRC there are about 260 programs on PL2004 and
some have different versions for different OS. Some programs are small
though and some EULA's probably prohibit redistribution . . . Revised:
The volunteer would have to burn *n* CDs . . . TBD . . . :)

IMO creating the initial CDs - the program list, CD layout, downloads
etc. would be the bulk of the work. If volunteers with big pipes
downloaded the programs maybe they could mail CDs to volunteers on
dial-up who are willing to burn copies.

If someone creates the CDs ISTM that one easy way to start the
distribution might be to request CDs in ACF: give the country you live
in and an email address or munged address that is easy to figure out.
Anyone who was willing to burn the CD's could contact you offlist and
tell you where to send your blank CDs. That way nobody would have to
maintain a list of volunteers and people could volunteer if, as and when
they felt like it . . .

If that worked well and the group wanted to do more info could be added
to the Pricelessware site for non-newsgroup participants.

Susan
 
Said YES

ConTEXT
(would like a copy of the CD)


Said NO

Pop-Up Stopper...NO
"You cannot sell our product, even on a freeware CD, because it
violates our
copyright and our EULA. I'm sorry."

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|dszady wrote:
|
|> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 13:43:05 -0500, Susan Bugher wrote:
|
|>>All an ACF volunteer would have to do is burn a copy of the CD and drop
|>>it in the mail (once the initial CD was created). :)
|
|> I haven't gotten around to burn them yet but won't the downloads at
|> Pricelessware.org take more than one disk?
|
|I suspect you're right. IIRC there are about 260 programs on PL2004 and
|some have different versions for different OS. Some programs are small
|though and some EULA's probably prohibit redistribution . . . Revised:
|The volunteer would have to burn *n* CDs . . . TBD . . . :)

I get 527mb not counting these ones

Coolruler
Debian
extractnow
graph paper printer
outlook express
PowerDesk
Pretty Good Privacy
TMPGEnc
WinDriversBackup Personal Edition
wordweb

The links did not work when I tried to download them. I didn't
bother tryting to get Outlook Express because it links to the
Internet Explorer set up file. Have to make sure that people
outside of the USA get the right version of PGP.

That includes the programs that the authors said no to and the
programs which no longer have an author to contact. All the
programs should fit on one CD with no problem.

|IMO creating the initial CDs - the program list, CD layout, downloads
|etc. would be the bulk of the work. If volunteers with big pipes
|downloaded the programs maybe they could mail CDs to volunteers on
|dial-up who are willing to burn copies.
|
|If someone creates the CDs ISTM that one easy way to start the
|distribution might be to request CDs in ACF: give the country you live
|in and an email address or munged address that is easy to figure out.
|Anyone who was willing to burn the CD's could contact you offlist and
|tell you where to send your blank CDs. That way nobody would have to
|maintain a list of volunteers and people could volunteer if, as and when
|they felt like it . . .
|
|If that worked well and the group wanted to do more info could be added
|to the Pricelessware site for non-newsgroup participants.

Some of the programs offer more than one download (zip, exe) The
zip files should probably be the ones selected first. Smaller
size and in some cases it means the program does not require
installation.

If there is room left on the CD it might be good to include
extras (plugins, language packs,) for some of the programs
(IrfanView and My Album come to mind). Which version of Aida is
to be used? Personal, Enterprise, or Network? they are all free.
The default downloaded program will be in English? Will there be
a way to get a custom CD with programs in a different language?
Open Office is a good example of this. It offers many language
yet is a huge file to have to download on dial up.

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Susan Bugher said:
All an ACF volunteer would have to do is burn a copy of the CD and drop
it in the mail (once the initial CD was created). :)
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One remark: what if someone distributes a troyaned version of the CD?
 
Anonymous said:
OpenOffice...Yes
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OOo is available for sale on a CD-ROM (or will be in the near future).
(e.g.: I know some people who are preparing to release OOo 1.1.1 NL on a
CD-ROM when it's available.)

Also: it would be impossible to include OOo in several languages, and I
think most people prefer a localised office suite...
 
|OOo is available for sale on a CD-ROM (or will be in the near future).
|(e.g.: I know some people who are preparing to release OOo 1.1.1 NL on a
|CD-ROM when it's available.)

I know you can get OOo on a CD.

You can also get a CD from http://www.karenware.com that
contains her programs ($29.95 for 25 programs).

Winsite http://www.winsite.com offers programs on CD's as well
(For only $9.95 + $1.99 worldwide s&h. You can get up to 400mb
on each CD).

Completely FREE Software
http://www.completelyfreesoftware.com/cd_rom.html has CD's for
$14.95 The amount on each CD varies.

NoNags http://www.nonagsplus.com/nplus.html?plus offers 2 CD's
for $15 plus the cost of joining NoNags Plus.

I'm sure that there are others.


|Also: it would be impossible to include OOo in several languages, and I
|think most people prefer a localised office suite...

I guess I explained it wrong. I wasn't saying put more than one
version of a program like OOo on the CD. If my first language
was Spanish for example and I wanted to buy a Pricelessware CD,
would Pricelessware be willing to switch the English version of
some thing like OOo for the Spanish version.

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* JanC Wrote in alt.comp.freeware, on 2004-01-24:
Anonymous <[email protected]> schreef:

OOo is available for sale on a CD-ROM (or will be in the near future).
(e.g.: I know some people who are preparing to release OOo 1.1.1 NL on a
CD-ROM when it's available.)
And?

Also: it would be impossible to include OOo in several languages, and I
think most people prefer a localised office suite...
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The CD wont aim to be a solution for all people, it will just be a way
to get the bulk of the software with a minimum of effort. If you need a
different version of the software the Pricelessware site will still be
available as a resource.
 
* JanC Wrote in alt.comp.freeware, on 2004-01-24:
Susan Bugher <[email protected]> schreef:
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One remark: what if someone distributes a troyaned version of the CD?
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A trusted person could set up the CD and and provide MD5 checksums if
necessary which could be downloaded from the pricelessware site if the
CD was not trustworthy for some reason.

In fact there is a utility we use for MAME that could create the dat
file and the sha/md5 hashes rather easily. I havent tried it yet but the
utility is flexible enough so I believe it would work, and the utlity is
freeware.
 
These ones said YES

jv16 Powertools 1.3.0
xExplorer
ChangeIcon
Free Agent (would like a copy of the CD)

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On 25 Jan 2004 04:13:33 -0000, Anonymous

Completely FREE Software
http://www.completelyfreesoftware.com/cd_rom.html has CD's for
$14.95 The amount on each CD varies.
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Thank you for those figures. I was curious as to what some of those
charges were.

As for the above. It seems like good value BUT as they don't care
whether people have spyware and/or adware programs I wouldn't
bother.

I would probably have been a "paying customer" myself IF the freeware
they have truly was freeware.

Regards, John.

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|Thank you for those figures. I was curious as to what some of those
|charges were.
|
|As for the above. It seems like good value BUT as they don't care
|whether people have spyware and/or adware programs I wouldn't
|bother.
|
|I would probably have been a "paying customer" myself IF the freeware
|they have truly was freeware.

A problem I have is the number (or mb size..Winsite) of programs
that they offer. They have a truck load of programs that could
go on a CD to fill it.

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These ones said YES

TClockEx
NoteTab Light
MetaPad
VirtualDub
Total Uninstal
Ethereal
Fractal Explorer
Super Gravity
Neutron

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These ones said YES

Speakonia
VNC
EyeDropper

AntiVir Personal Edition They had this to add.
"This agreement is valid for the version 6.22.09.09 only. For
further versions please contact us for a new agreement."

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This one said YES

SimpleOCR


This one said NO

WS_FTP LE
"After review of your application you have our permission to
include
WS_FTP Pro 30 day evaluation on your CD-ROMs or your web site."

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Some of the authors have conditions for allowing their programs
to be placed on a CD. They range from something simple like
keeping the orginal documentation to requiring a CD.

I am putting all of the yes replys in a text file. I would like
to send it to who ever is going to be doing the ISO for the CD.
This way they can make sure that the authors conditions are met.
So who do I send it to?

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SINNER said:
A trusted person could set up the CD and and provide MD5 checksums if
necessary which could be downloaded from the pricelessware site if the
CD was not trustworthy for some reason.
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I was thinking about something similar. :-)

Maybe it would be even better when _several_ "trusted" people would put the
MD5 checksum(s) online.
In fact there is a utility we use for MAME that could create the dat
file and the sha/md5 hashes rather easily. I havent tried it yet but the
utility is flexible enough so I believe it would work, and the utlity is
freeware.
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That might be useful then.
 
SINNER said:
* JanC Wrote in alt.comp.freeware, on 2004-01-24:

And?
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This is already available on a CD from hundreds(!) of sources (sometimes as
cheap as 5 euro or less).
The CD wont aim to be a solution for all people, it will just be a way
to get the bulk of the software with a minimum of effort. If you need a
different version of the software the Pricelessware site will still be
available as a resource.
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A smaller ISO means:
- volunteer "copiers" have smaller downloads
- burning on CD is faster
 
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