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Susan Bugher

Genna Reeney emailed me a few days ago regarding the Pricelessware site.
She wants to change the site to a database format. We have had some
email correspondence.

IMO further discussion should be in the newsgroup.

I have many unanswered questions. . . What are the *details* of the
proposed plan: who, what, why, where, when, how - especially who. . .

There are related issues that need discussion - I'd like to resolve this
issue/proposal first if we can. . .

Susan
 
Genna Reeney emailed me a few days ago regarding the Pricelessware site.
She wants to change the site to a database format. We have had some
email correspondence.

IMO further discussion should be in the newsgroup.

I have many unanswered questions. . . What are the *details* of the
proposed plan: who, what, why, where, when, how - especially who. . .

There are related issues that need discussion - I'd like to resolve this
issue/proposal first if we can. . .

Susan
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Can you be more specific as to what Genna had to say and what is the
reason for the change?
POKO
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Susan Bugher said:
Genna Reeney emailed me a few days ago regarding the Pricelessware
site. She wants to change the site to a database format. We have had
some email correspondence.
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Was this after the "PING: Son of Spy" post?
IMO further discussion should be in the newsgroup.
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Don't bother, unless you *really* want to fight it.
Pricelessware is "owned" by "Genna Reeney".

"Domain ID:D75149369-LROR
Domain Name:PRICELESSWARE.ORG
Created On:19-Jul-2001 01:40:38 UTC
Last Updated On:08-Oct-2003 21:49:39 UTC
Expiration Date:19-Jul-2004 01:40:38 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:tu0qkVTMo6bHUH67
Registrant Name:Genna Reeney
Registrant Organization:alt.comp.freeware Pricelessware List
Registrant Street1:1234 5th Avenue
Registrant City:New York
Registrant State/Province:NY
Registrant Postal Code:10001
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2125551212
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:tu0qkVTMo6bHUH67
Admin Name:Genna Reeney
Admin Organization:alt.comp.freeware Pricelessware List
Admin Street1:1234 5th Avenue
Admin City:New York
Admin State/Province:NY
Admin Postal Code:10001
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.2125551212
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:turBret9ygPZXKof
Tech Name:Lars Hindsley
Tech Organization:Spy Productions
Tech Street1:125 Woodshade Drive
Tech City:Newark
Tech State/Province:DE
Tech Postal Code:19702-1413
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.3023693060
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:DNS124.HRWEBSERVICES.NET
Name Server:DNS224.HRWEBSERVICES.NET"

Looks like Pricelessware is a sham. "Spy Productions"?
I have many unanswered questions. . . What are the *details* of the
proposed plan: who, what, why, where, when, how - especially who. . .

There are related issues that need discussion - I'd like to resolve
this issue/proposal first if we can. . .
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Hmmm...
 
Ben said:
Was this after the "PING: Son of Spy" post?




Don't bother, unless you *really* want to fight it.
Pricelessware is "owned" by "Genna Reeney".

"Domain ID:D75149369-LROR
Domain Name:PRICELESSWARE.ORG
Created On:19-Jul-2001 01:40:38 UTC
Last Updated On:08-Oct-2003 21:49:39 UTC
Expiration Date:19-Jul-2004 01:40:38 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:tu0qkVTMo6bHUH67
Registrant Name:Genna Reeney
Registrant Organization:alt.comp.freeware Pricelessware List
Registrant Street1:1234 5th Avenue
Registrant City:New York
Registrant State/Province:NY
Registrant Postal Code:10001
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2125551212
Registrant Email:[email protected]
Admin ID:tu0qkVTMo6bHUH67
Admin Name:Genna Reeney
Admin Organization:alt.comp.freeware Pricelessware List
Admin Street1:1234 5th Avenue
Admin City:New York
Admin State/Province:NY
Admin Postal Code:10001
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.2125551212
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:turBret9ygPZXKof
Tech Name:Lars Hindsley
Tech Organization:Spy Productions
Tech Street1:125 Woodshade Drive
Tech City:Newark
Tech State/Province:DE
Tech Postal Code:19702-1413
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.3023693060
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:DNS124.HRWEBSERVICES.NET
Name Server:DNS224.HRWEBSERVICES.NET"

Looks like Pricelessware is a sham. "Spy Productions"?
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Gee i wonder what that could refer to??

Wasn't there a guy who thought the whole idea up
back in 1999 Son sortof Spy....


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Genna Reeney emailed me a few days ago regarding the Pricelessware site.
She wants to change the site to a database format. We have had some
email correspondence.

IMO further discussion should be in the newsgroup.

I have many unanswered questions. . . What are the *details* of the
proposed plan: who, what, why, where, when, how - especially who. . .

There are related issues that need discussion - I'd like to resolve this
issue/proposal first if we can. . .

Susan
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I'm quite sure there will be no lack of volunteers to help you with a
transition to a new site. For what it's worth, I've installed and used
about 7 different cms sites and ultimatly settled on e-xoops, now named
runcms, for it's ease of use and security.

Whichever solution you choose, if it is php/mysql based, I'd be happy to
help where I can. IMO you've done a great job with PW and I hope you
continue with the "job". :)
 
burnr said:
Whichever solution you choose, if it is php/mysql based, I'd be happy to
help where I can. IMO you've done a great job with PW and I hope you
continue with the "job". :)
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If I was Susan I would say that it is enough work keeping the current
system updated. If somebody else wants to convert the current site to a
database system they are welcome to do it.

Until the new system is working the old system has to be kept rolling as
before. I don't think Susan needs another job to take care of on top of
the fantastic job she already is doing.

It could take months or years to get the new system working so well that
it can replace the old system.
 
Son said:
Gee i wonder what that could refer to??

Wasn't there a guy who thought the whole idea up
back in 1999 Son sortof Spy....
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I know... It's scary.
Also, I suspect that might not be a real address and phone number!
:)
 
Can you be more specific as to what Genna had to say and what is the
reason for the change?
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About all I can say is that specifics are lacking. Email is
correspondence is private. . .

Susan
 
I'm quite sure there will be no lack of volunteers to help you with a
transition to a new site. For what it's worth, I've installed and used
about 7 different cms sites and ultimatly settled on e-xoops, now named
runcms, for it's ease of use and security.
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Certainly a new site is one possibility if there is no response from
Genna or if this can't be resolved to the satisfaction of newsgroup
participants.

The web pages are quite portable in their *present* format. All that's
required is PHP capability - and about 10 MB of web space (don't know
about bandwidth requirements).
Whichever solution you choose, if it is php/mysql based, I'd be happy to
help where I can. IMO you've done a great job with PW and I hope you
continue with the "job". :)
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Thank you. :) I have certainly been looking forward to acting as point
person during the selection of PL2005. . .

Susan
 
Roger said:
If I was Susan I would say that it is enough work keeping the current
system updated. If somebody else wants to convert the current site to a
database system they are welcome to do it.

Until the new system is working the old system has to be kept rolling as
before. I don't think Susan needs another job to take care of on top of
the fantastic job she already is doing.

It could take months or years to get the new system working so well that
it can replace the old system.
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If it ain't broke why fix it????????????
Omar
 
My ISP offers me 15MB of webspace, and it is php/mysql based. I just
spoke with thec support, and I am allowed to "donate" this page.

Susan, you have my e-mail address, so if you are seriously thinking of
switching, let's chat.

: burnr wrote:
:
: > @corp.supernews.com:
: >
: >>Genna Reeney emailed me a few days ago regarding the Pricelessware
: > site.
: >>She wants to change the site to a database format. We have had some
: >>email correspondence.
: >>
: >>IMO further discussion should be in the newsgroup.
: >>
: >>I have many unanswered questions. . . What are the *details* of the
: >>proposed plan: who, what, why, where, when, how - especially who. .
..
: >>
: >>There are related issues that need discussion - I'd like to resolve
: > this
: >>issue/proposal first if we can. . .
:
: > I'm quite sure there will be no lack of volunteers to help you with
a
: > transition to a new site. For what it's worth, I've installed and
used
: > about 7 different cms sites and ultimatly settled on e-xoops, now
named
: > runcms, for it's ease of use and security.
:
: Certainly a new site is one possibility if there is no response from
: Genna or if this can't be resolved to the satisfaction of newsgroup
: participants.
:
: The web pages are quite portable in their *present* format. All that's
: required is PHP capability - and about 10 MB of web space (don't know
: about bandwidth requirements).
:
: > Whichever solution you choose, if it is php/mysql based, I'd be
happy to
: > help where I can. IMO you've done a great job with PW and I hope you
: > continue with the "job". :)
:
: Thank you. :) I have certainly been looking forward to acting as point
: person during the selection of PL2005. . .
:
: Susan
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: PL2004 CD http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/CD2004PL.htm
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Seems to me it is her site and she takes care of it. No one forces any of
us to go to the site. I do not pay anything to access the site, so I should
have no valid input on what the owner(s) want to do with the site.

You want an awful lot for something you leach from.
 
PuppyKatt said:
My ISP offers me 15MB of webspace, and it is php/mysql based. I just
spoke with thec support, and I am allowed to "donate" this page.

Susan, you have my e-mail address, so if you are seriously thinking of
switching, let's chat.
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Thanks PuppyKatt.

I have limited access to the PL site - that creates problems (I was
unable to upload to the site for several days last week).

Lack of access and lack of communication are a *really* bad combination.

In the absence of any word from Genna, I think we need to seriously
consider a change of site.

Comments from the group please.

Susan
 
Thanks PuppyKatt.

I have limited access to the PL site - that creates problems (I was unable
to upload to the site for several days last week).

Lack of access and lack of communication are a *really* bad combination.

In the absence of any word from Genna, I think we need to seriously
consider a change of site.

Comments from the group please.

Susan
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Change. Despite the bickering that happens in here like all of Usenet
I always thought this was a group thing. The fishy domain registration
and her clandestine maneuvering without asking the group is not right.
 
Lack of access and lack of communication are a *really* bad combination.

In the absence of any word from Genna, I think we need to seriously
consider a change of site.

Comments from the group please.

Susan
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Susan,
Could you e-mail me with all that's gone on that has led to this. I
understand your situation being the webmaster with your hands tied
behind your back, but I can't really give any input without some
background,
POKO
--
P. Keenan - Webmaster
Web Page Design
Manitoulin Island, Canada
http://manitoulinislandwebdesign.it-mate.co.uk/
(e-mail address removed)
 
Genna Reeney emailed me a few days ago regarding the Pricelessware site.
She wants to change the site to a database format. We have had some
email correspondence.

IMO further discussion should be in the newsgroup.

I have many unanswered questions. . . What are the *details* of the
proposed plan: who, what, why, where, when, how - especially who. . .

There are related issues that need discussion - I'd like to resolve this
issue/proposal first if we can. . .
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I have no idea what's going on here but that's a normal condition for
me, anyway. I can certainly find some webspace, if that will help.
More importantly, Susan, it's unfair that you should be burdened with
a huge amount of work on top of what you've done, and are doing, on
behalf of the group. I'll be pleased to help in any way I can. It's
only fair to warn you, though, that I'm a registered HTML cretin and
must be kept far from any code that is intended for any purpose other
than laughing at, hysterically.

In any other capacity, though, the offer's serious and meant to be
taken up.
 
If I was Susan I would say that it is enough work keeping the current
system updated. If somebody else wants to convert the current site to a
database system they are welcome to do it.
Click to expand...
Until the new system is working the old system has to be kept rolling as
before. I don't think Susan needs another job to take care of on top of
the fantastic job she already is doing.
Click to expand...
It could take months or years to get the new system working so well that
it can replace the old system.
Click to expand...

Ditto. The day to day work is substantial. I don't see how Susan finds
the time that she currently expends.
 
Susan said:
I have limited access to the PL site - that creates problems (I was
unable to upload to the site for several days last week).

Lack of access and lack of communication are a *really* bad
combination.

In the absence of any word from Genna, I think we need to seriously
consider a change of site.

Comments from the group please.

Susan
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A change of site unfortunately seems appropriate and inevitable, IMHO.
 
Semolina said:
I have no idea what's going on here but that's a normal condition for
me, anyway. I can certainly find some webspace, if that will help.
More importantly, Susan, it's unfair that you should be burdened with
a huge amount of work on top of what you've done, and are doing, on
behalf of the group. I'll be pleased to help in any way I can. It's
only fair to warn you, though, that I'm a registered HTML cretin and
must be kept far from any code that is intended for any purpose other
than laughing at, hysterically.

In any other capacity, though, the offer's serious and meant to be
taken up.
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Not knowing what's going on shouldn't be the normal condition for this
newsgroup. IMO we cannot remain in a state of limbo until Genna makes an
appearance. We must proceed - with or without her.

The start of nominations for the next PL is not all that far away. There
are things I need to do to - web pages to set up. There are discussions
that must be held - decisions the group needs to make between now and
then in regard to the voting and selection process.

The present state of uncertainty is unfair to *everyone* - we need to
move ahead. A new web site looks like the next topic of discussion. Do
we want one site, mirror sites, a network of sites with different parts
hosted at different locations (there's a little of that now). . . We
may need a new domain name. . .

I appreciate the offer of help (I *will* find a way to put you to work). :)

Susan
 
dszady said:
Change. Despite the bickering that happens in here like all of Usenet
I always thought this was a group thing. The fishy domain registration
and her clandestine maneuvering without asking the group is not right.
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Whoa! Let's back up a bit. Genna's done a great deal for the group. I
appreciate her efforts and I'm sure her plans are intended to benefit
the group.

The problem is *communication* with the group - or rather lack of
communication. . . the Pricelessware web site *is* a group thing and
decisions about is should be made in the group. . .

I think the Pricelssware List *will* have to move from the present site
- IMO as we leave we should thank Genna for providing that site for
several years.

Susan
 
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