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Keith
Could there be a possibility that it was an trepass warning sign
attempting some humour?
Maybe. OTOH, if there is a still back in them thar woods... Then again,
if so the second sentence is moot. ;-)
Could there be a possibility that it was an trepass warning sign
attempting some humour?
That should read, at the end "can't get under copyright law".
Keith said:It didn't work in the middle-ages. A composer was commissioned for the
work and that was it. I wonder what it would cost to commission Windows?
Somehow I don't think Evgenij has enough cash for his OS of choice.
If I recall correctly, the guy was raising fighting chickens.Keith said:Maybe. OTOH, if there is a still back in them thar woods... Then again,
if so the second sentence is moot. ;-)
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I have a picture somewhere that I took of the sign that said
"Trespassers will be shot. Those missed will be prosecuted". It was in
the state of Virginia, in the mountains.
It didn't work in the middle-ages. A composer was commissioned for the
work and that was it. I wonder what it would cost to commission Windows?
Somehow I don't think Evgenij has enough cash for his OS of choice.
George Macdonald said:And would this sign be supported legally through to its logical conclusion?
Would the land owner be charged with murder or not? Signs are
inexpensive.
Would you step on his land? If you're shot it doesn't make the slightest
difference to you if he is charged with murder or not.
Would you step on his land? If you're shot it doesn't make the slightest
difference to you if he is charged with murder or not.
Maybe. OTOH, if there is a still back in them thar woods... Then again,
if so the second sentence is moot. ;-)
P.S. Welcome back l'angel
George Macdonald said:What is it that you do not understand about "legally supported"?
The original point being made was that trepass is treated differently
*legally* by different countries where in German it's only an offense
if the area was fenced up and the signs there simply read trespass at
own risk.
Hmm, I take it that Thar Woods are full of sharpshooters... or at the
very least people who won't stop at the first shot? (or as usual I'm
missing some US reference again!)
You could say something like Linux is commissioned. It is built in bits
and pieces, often paid by someone who needs that piece.
Here's a new angle on EULAs: http://stots.com/agree.htm. When you buy this
company's tools you don't own them - you only have a license for personal
use and may not lend them or use them to make items for others. This has
gone beyond absurd.
Keith said:"Removing the seal from the product indicates your agreement"
I'd like to see one of these tested in court. Actually, I'd like to see
all of 'em tested. One can write anything on the package but that doesn't
mean it'll stand up as an enforceable contract.
Keith said:"Commissioned"? Is anyone (other than the "RHs") receiving payment for
specific work?
Definitely if you count employees. Intel, Adaptec, IBM, and otehrs pay
employees to add specific bits and systems that they need.
Interesting was that Intel added a fix specific for AMD64, I think it
was for ACPI, when Intel still denied they were doing a 64 bit x86 CPU.
Adaptec has submitted a serial-SCSI subsystem recently.
IBM is having a lot of stuff added for large systems, and obviously for
IBM specific hardware.
If employees don't count, it is a lot easier to find examples not
relating to the kernel but to applications. See, for example,
http://www.gnome.org/bounties/ - part of them commisioned by Google.
OTOH Computer Associates offered a million dollars (and paid 550K) for
writing conversion tools from competing databases.
I read a news article about this quite a while ago:
Manufacturers are quite aware that those "contracts" and EULAs
are often not enforceable
- but they are very aware that they are
proven to reduce the number of lawsuits and complaints from
gullible consumers.
Hence the manufacturer often has everything
to gain and nothing to lose by putting such drivel on their packaging or
in a EULA.
Keith said:I covered them when I said "other than RHs" (Red Hats). Even then,
employees aren't commissioned to do work. They're hired. I suppose there
are contractors in the mix though.