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Achim Nolcken Lohse
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I've got OO 1.1.2 running on an AMD K2-6/500 system under Win98SE.
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Achim Nolcken Lohse
Does the above work for upgrading to a new version too, or do you have
to uninstall first?
I installed 1.1.2 for my wife, who uses it for work, and I'm a bit
antsy about "fixing" something that works reasonably well.
One feature that doesn't work in 1.1.1 or 1.1.2 is the Impress
presentation manager. It's unable to run sound in Powerpoint
slideshows, and when creating new slideshows, sound and video are
greyed out, and can't be embedded.
Has this been fixed in 1.1.3?
O
Onno Tasler
Onno Tasler scribebat:
Sorry, I made a mistake here: The format which will be used by the coming
OOo-versions 1.1.4 and 2.0 will be standardised. The old format used by
1.1.3 and older is not standardised.
Sorry, I made a mistake here: The format which will be used by the coming
OOo-versions 1.1.4 and 2.0 will be standardised. The old format used by
1.1.3 and older is not standardised.
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Conor
Do the same and it'll ask you if you want to upgrade.Achim Nolcken Lohse said:
Dunno, read the release notes.
O
omega
Nicolaas Hawkins said:
My casual interpretation is that they are just using old language. Kind
of like back towards those days when "IBM-clone" was standard speech...
Or, recall the days wheren MAC people liked to collectively label our
systems "Wintel."
As to download choices today giving "Intel" as name of category, I do see
that on occasion -- and really believe it nothing to do with the matter
of AMD v Intel. I'd expect to even be able to pull my poor old Cyrix-based
PC from storage and be able to run those file downloads (ok, albeit at its
sloww put'putter'put'putter'put pace).
B
Bob Adkins
Only the most avid MS Office power users will find OOo wanting. I wouldn't
hesitate.
-- Bob
L
lugnut
Not a problem with OO. Nothing but AMD's used here.
H
H-Man
REM said:
Uhm, no. AMD gives the same results for any x86 instruction that Intel
does with the exception of MMX and newer x86 extensions, none of which
is used by OOo.
If AMD processors can run other Windows programs without specific error,
and they most certainly can, then it will run OOo. AMD has a very solid
reputation among system builders and will not let you down on a
compatability issue. They use INTEL archictecture to describe the x86
architecture which was in fact invented by INTEL, but is also done by a
number of other processor manufacturers. They also refer to the boxes we
work on as PC's which is an IBM thing, but you don't worry about
compatability when you work on your Dell computer, do you? Please do not
mistake the industry's use of trademarks to describe a platform as a
measure of compatability.
C
Chakolate
Does that mean 2.0 will include the option of only opening, say, the word
processor, if that's all you want? That'd be great.
Chakolate
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Chakolate
But you only have to do it once. By that I mean, with MS stuff, every time
they change or 'enhance' a product, stuff gets moved around, and you have a
learning curve. Okay, it's fairly short, but it's there.
Starting them on OO involves a different but still fairly short learning
curve, and you save the $200 bucks on every computer, as well as every
replacement computer they ever buy.
I'm a big fan of OO and I was a very savvy user of MSO.
Chakolate
B
Bjorn Simonsen
JanC wrote in said:
and speaking off...
<http://europa.eu.int/ISPO/ida/jsps/...ocument&parent=crossreference&documentID=2592>
All the best,
Bjorn Simonsen
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Helen Page
I'm using OO 1.1.3, originally ran it on a 750MHz laptop running WinXP cos I
got p***ed off with M$. After yonks of use it decided it wanted me to put in
the M$Office CD. Think I could find that darn CD?! And I wasn't paying for
another copy of the disc. So I started looking around for alternatives and
found OO. No problems at all, have just installed it on my desktop (800MHz,
Win2000)
A little, but IMHO worth it to be away from M$...
Only tried .doc and .xls but they seem fine, and you can set it to save
files as one of a number of formats by default, including .doc, so making it
easier to share files with people still running M$Office.
Have only used the spreadsheet and wordprocessing features so far but found
them very easy to pick up as (as far as I can see) all the MSOffice features
are there, minus a few keyboard shortcuts.
Not noticed any probs yet.
Nope, easy and fairly quick.
Go for it.
got p***ed off with M$. After yonks of use it decided it wanted me to put in
the M$Office CD. Think I could find that darn CD?! And I wasn't paying for
another copy of the disc. So I started looking around for alternatives and
found OO. No problems at all, have just installed it on my desktop (800MHz,
Win2000)
A little, but IMHO worth it to be away from M$...
Only tried .doc and .xls but they seem fine, and you can set it to save
files as one of a number of formats by default, including .doc, so making it
easier to share files with people still running M$Office.
Have only used the spreadsheet and wordprocessing features so far but found
them very easy to pick up as (as far as I can see) all the MSOffice features
are there, minus a few keyboard shortcuts.
Not noticed any probs yet.
Nope, easy and fairly quick.
Go for it.
C
Chaos Master
Nicolaas Hawkins said:
It should work. 'Intel' is a way to say 'x86 CPU's', and AMD's are x86
processors.
This would matter if there was a build of OpenOffice for other CPU's, but since
Windows mainly runs on x86 CPU's [1].
[1] Actually, Win NT 4.0 has a version for the ALPHA processor.
But I don't think any of those are in use anymore.
--
Chaos Master®, posting from Brazil.
"People told me I can't dress like a fairy.
I say, I'm in a rock band and I can do what the hell I want!"
-- Amy Lee
The Evanescen(t/ce) HP: http://marreka.no-ip.com
It should work. 'Intel' is a way to say 'x86 CPU's', and AMD's are x86
processors.
This would matter if there was a build of OpenOffice for other CPU's, but since
Windows mainly runs on x86 CPU's [1].
[1] Actually, Win NT 4.0 has a version for the ALPHA processor.
But I don't think any of those are in use anymore.
--
Chaos Master®, posting from Brazil.
"People told me I can't dress like a fairy.
I say, I'm in a rock band and I can do what the hell I want!"
-- Amy Lee
The Evanescen(t/ce) HP: http://marreka.no-ip.com
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Achim Nolcken Lohse
Thanks. I went ahead and upgraded, and everything seemed to go
swimmingly. My only complaint is about the flakey activity bar, which
doesn't indicate the progress of the install, and left me wondering
whether the system had hung.
....
No mention of "impress" or "presentation" in the release notes.
I checked Impress after upgrading, and the options insert/object/audio
and insert/object/video are still greyed out.
I don't have a PPoint presentation with sound handy, so I couldn't
test whether Impress can play an existing slideshow with sound now.
I must say I find this rather strange. Can it be that no one who
migrates from MS Office uses slideshows with audio or video?
Or is it be that these are among the capabilities lost by not having
Java installed?
J
John Hood
Snippage
Relax. I have been using the "Intel" install since 1.1.0 on several AMD
machines and have been quite happy. No problems, no locks.
John Hood
Web Site www.jhoodsoft.org
"The best home and business free software, no ads, no time limits, no
fluff."
"No kidding."
Relax. I have been using the "Intel" install since 1.1.0 on several AMD
machines and have been quite happy. No problems, no locks.
John Hood
Web Site www.jhoodsoft.org
"The best home and business free software, no ads, no time limits, no
fluff."
"No kidding."
J
John Hood
DH said:
Dave - I do Helpdesk in a mixed environment of OOo and MS. I have
occasionally seen problems where an MS doc looks a little funny when
opened in OOo. It usually takes about 15 min to fix. I've recorded a
few macros to achieve this where the work is repetitive. I have NEVER
had a situation where an OOo file was saved in MS format, and MS failed
to open it correctly.
There is one known issue that OOo can do nothing about: MS files that
are password protected cannot be opened in OOo. The author must remove
the password before the OOo person can open it. (as such we zip the
files instead and password the zips).
A more detailed report exists on my web site. www.jhoodsoft.org.
Issues not mentioned there:
Weaknesses of OOo compared to MS.
MSWord, Excel, PowerPoint macro language is incompatible. MS macros
are disabled when opening in OOo and do not re-enable when saved to MS.
OOo has no "copy format/paste format" function natively (it IS available
as an add-on).
No Access equivalent, no Outlook equivalent (Mozilla ThunderBird and
Sunbird calendar work nicely though).
First part of the learning curve is high, esp. dealing with users who
are ingrained to MS. There are still a few people who "don't like it"
but hey, can't please everyone. OOo makes the user do some things
manually that MS has a wizard for, a trade-off. Manual operation means
more control of output, but I mention it because some users noticed it.
Interface is plain plain plain!
Strengths of OOo.
Better tech support. OOo users group is likely to have the people who
actually designed/built OOo answering your question. When was he last
time you got that with MS. And no per incident support charges.
File sizes are smaller. It's compressed XML and style sheets. You can
open with a zip util.
More logical layout of menus.
Better control of templates and style sheets- easier to create.
Macros are more reliable.
"Auto-pilot" feature works like wizards.
Better mail-merge and datasource interfacing.
More reliable forms support.
HTML export contains no proprietary coding.
Obviously, lower TCO.
It has it's fans. There are people who have started with OOo and will
not go back to MS.
John Hood
Web Site www.jhoodsoft.org
"The best home and business free software, no ads, no time limits, no
fluff."
"No kidding."
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Nicolaas Hawkins
Thank you to you, John, and to all the others who replied to me with
reassurances re CPU compatibility. I have now "bit the bullet" and
installed OOo on my AMD Duron 1800 XP-SP2 system ... it's looking good.
Very good.
Only two regrets from me:
1. That I didn't try it sooner;
2. That. it seems, I still need to use MS Publisher because OOo doesn't
seem to have anything approaching it or be able to convert and use .pub
files.
--
Regards,
Nicolaas.
- Opening the mind can open the heart. Opening the heart can open the
mind.
W
WebWalker
Funny, no greyed out in my OpenOffice 1.1.1.
I can insert any video or sound to the presentation.
J
JanC
Onno Tasler schreef:
And it's not standardised yet, it's _almost_ standardised. ;-)
About the EU: they didn't really *decide* that yet, but the fact that they
asked Sun to take the new standard office format to ISO is a clear
indication that they want to use it. (A final decisions will have to be
made by politicians.)
And it's not standardised yet, it's _almost_ standardised. ;-)
About the EU: they didn't really *decide* that yet, but the fact that they
asked Sun to take the new standard office format to ISO is a clear
indication that they want to use it. (A final decisions will have to be
made by politicians.)
G
Gary R. Schmidt
Just checked in my 1.1.3 installation - both options are available andWebWalker said:
operative.
Cheers,
Gary B-)