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Mark Twain
I think it came to 31GB. how do I check?
R
I think it came to 31GB. how do I check?
R
M
Mark Twain
Hello Paul and guys,
Sorry to have been absent for so long but
I have been trying to find DVD-RW disks. I
finally went to Walmart and they had them but
only Memorex. I remembered what you guys said,
so I passed them by. I ended up having to go
online and bought:
(5)Maxell DVD-RW- 4.7GB 2 x 635125
Will that be ok? When I get them I'll create
the recovery boot cd.
Thanks,
Robert
Sorry to have been absent for so long but
I have been trying to find DVD-RW disks. I
finally went to Walmart and they had them but
only Memorex. I remembered what you guys said,
so I passed them by. I ended up having to go
online and bought:
(5)Maxell DVD-RW- 4.7GB 2 x 635125
Will that be ok? When I get them I'll create
the recovery boot cd.
Thanks,
Robert
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Paul
Mark said:
I use a different Maxell product than you, and
the discs were actually made by Ritek. They should
be OK.
*******
Optical media are made in relatively large plants.
There are one or two plants that make cheap (and not
very good) media. And it's up to any reseller, to
make bulk purchases of product from suppliers with
a good reputation. Ritek and Taiyo Yuden are examples
of suppliers with a good rep. The Maxell I bought in
the past was Ritek (which is why I bought more of them).
And Ridata brand (which was also in my computer store
next to the Maxell), is a Ritek company (i.e. how they
sell their own media).
You can see in the paragraph here, how the supply
system works.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiyo_Yuden_Co.,_Ltd.#Recording_media
"Rebranded Taiyo Yuden media can be found under
Fujifilm, Fusion, Maxell (Maxell Music CD-R,
Maxell CD-R Pro, and Maxell CD-R Music Pro (discontinued)),
Miflop, Panasonic, Plextor, Sony (Sony Music CD-R (discontinued 2008)),
TDK, and Verbatim Corporation brands."
If we look at the Memorex article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorex
"Few if any of these products are actually manufactured
by Memorex or Imation; for example,
CD-Rs are made by CMC Magnetics Corp of Taiwan,
Ritek of Taiwan and Moser Baer of India. CD-Rs were
formerly made by Daxon of Malaysia and Prodisc Technology"
While Ritek is in their list, we don't really know what
percentage of Memorex product might be those. You'd need
to research those company names, to find out if their
media was reputable.
I've bought Fujifilm branded media before, and they were OK.
And the media tag on discs can be faked. A counterfeiter
can make their own "Ritek" if they want. So if some big factory
with a bad reputation isn't able to sell product any more, they
can put the name of a company with a good reputation, on the
media tag that the burner program can read. Imgburn may be
able to tell you the discs are Ritek. So if I ever run into
some Ritek, with splotches in the dye layer, we know what
happened :-( It might not be real Ritek.
Staples, the stationary store, is selling a lot of media with
their own store brand printed on the packaging. As a result
of doing that, I no longer buy optical media at Staples. Who
wants to waste time, "testing" media again, to find out
who actually makes the Staples branded optical discs ? It's
because of this "two layer supply system", that purchasing
media is so hard. Imagine if Moser Baer or Ritek had to put
their own name on the outside of every package, how easy this
would be. As it is, the system is "anti-consumer", intended
to sucker customers into buying things they don't want. And
that Staples example, of introducing products with no known
history, is how this game is played. It's like buying
generic-branded Cheerios, which turn out to be as hard
as rock when you put them in your cereal bowl. Some testing
required.
HTH,
Paul
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Paul
Mark said:
Start by using the properties for the partition.
This gives an overall number (which you tell us is 31GB).
You probably saw something like this.
http://windowsassistance.tripod.com/winxp/tips/images/partition-pp.jpg
Then, locate the Documents folder, or where ever you keep your
downloads. In File Explorer, right-click the folder and have it calculate
"Properties" again. Subtract the amount of space, from the
31GB number, to figure out how much the OS is using.
The reason this method is necessary, is because on
modern OSes that use NTFS hard links, you can't get
an accurate OS number by doing Properties on the Windows
folder. The files get double counted when you do that.
By starting with the total partition size, then subtracting
the user contribution (user space doesn't use hard links),
you get a better estimate of the OS portion. File Explorer
is not properly equipped (that I know of), to remove
double-counted files.
WinXP doesn't use hard links that I know of. This
is a Vista/Win7/Win8 kind of thing. On WinXP, File
Explorer should give decent results when you ask it.
Paul
M
Mark Twain
This is my C: drive on the 8200:
I received my DVD-RW disks and proceeded to create
a recovery boot CD when it gave me this:
Thanks,
Robert
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Paul
Mark said:This is my C: drive on the 8200:
I received my DVD-RW disks and proceeded to create
a recovery boot CD when it gave me this:
Thanks,
Robert
Macrium makes .log files. You could look in the log
for a reason why it failed.
Of the following three folder areas, the first has
program files. The second has executables used for
making the rescue materials (WAIK kit based). The
third may have log files, when failures occur during
an attempt to make the rescue media.
C:\Program Files\Macrium\Reflect
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Macrium\Reflect\Windows AIK\Tools\x86
C:\boot\macrium
You can also look on the Macrium screen, when a failure
occurs, and see if a "log" button is present
on the screen. As that can open the log file in
Notepad.
*******
If you select "Create ISO File", instead of pointing
Macrium at the DVD burner, the rescue media will be
stored as "rescue.iso", an ISO9660 file.
http://i60.tinypic.com/debuv4.jpg
Then, you can use Imgburn, to burn the actual DVD.
The thing is, Imgburn has an excellent "log" window,
that records things as the media is burned. If there
is a problem with the burning operation, it may be
easier to see while within Imgburn.
*******
There is another tool I want you to try, but I have
to go make some screen shots. Back in a minute.
HTH,
Paul
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Paul
Mark said:This is my C: drive on the 8200:
I received my DVD-RW disks and proceeded to create
a recovery boot CD when it gave me this:
Thanks,
Robert
OK, this is an older, but portable version of Nero
Info Tool. I could have given you a pointer to the
newest version, but it may contain Ask Toolbar. This
doesn't have a toolbar. The cdspeed2000 site belongs
to the guy who wrote it. He was distributing the
program separately.
https://web.archive.org/web/20070323111220/http://www.cdspeed2000.com/files/NeroInfoTool_403.zip
When the download completes, you unzip the two files inside.
These should sit in the same folder.
hwinfo.exe
InfoTool.exe
When you double-click the InfoTool program file, it starts.
The main window, gives you the firmware version of your drive.
This is in case you have thoughts of updating the firmware.
We're not ready for that just yet. (The firmware updates
only added a few tags, in the last update at least.)
http://i62.tinypic.com/23iv77b.gif
This is an example of a new firmware thread for your drive.
Just to show the versions go up to at least 1.05. This
thread was posted in 2008.
http://forum.lgsoftwareinnovations....990-New-Firmware-for-the-LG-GSA-H55L-and-H55N
*******
I'd hoped to use the old Nero CD/DVD Speed, which can scan for
PI/PO errors and the like, but it's not working properly
here. So we'll have to skip that for now.
You can burn a test DVD with Imgburn. If you have a
large ISO file already (~4GB), you can use that to test
the ability of Imgburn to burn a test disk. I used
my Knoppix DVD image as a test, and burned that to my
new media.
Imgburn puts a nice log on the screen, so if there
is some error during your stand alone burn test, you
can take note of any error there.
Nero still offers DiscSpeed for free, but I can't be sure it
doesn't have toolbars in it. It's near the bottom of this page.
I would have to use WINE to unpack it and test it.
http://www.nero.com/enu/downloads/
The download file is from here. If you use this, the download
should start immediately. The reason I can't install this
in WinXP, is because I have to be careful to not upset my
ancient (paid) version of Nero stuff. The Nero licensing
can be twitchy.
http://ftp6.nero.com/tools/Nero_DiscSpeed.exe
If it doesn't offer an error scanning option (the Start button
is grayed out), that can be a function of the drive. The
old Liteon drives, had more error scanning features than other
brands. And that could be a reason it doesn't work. But I swear
I've had an error scan running here with my current drive,
and even if it was just PI/PO it was better than nothing. I
don't understand why DiscSpeed is giving me grief today.
Paul
M
Mark Twain
Hello Paul,
That's allot of information to digest. I
do have a Nero LG CD installation disk if
that helps.
Just tell me what you want me to do.
Thanks,
Robert
That's allot of information to digest. I
do have a Nero LG CD installation disk if
that helps.
Just tell me what you want me to do.
Thanks,
Robert
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Paul
Mark said:
In Macrium, make the boot CD as an ISO9660 file,
instead of allowing Macrium to use its own built-in
burner software.
http://i60.tinypic.com/debuv4.jpg
Then, switch over to Imgburn, and convert the ISO8669
file to a boot CD. Since Imgburn has a relatively
nice log it puts on the screen, you may see a comment
if the burn fails.
Paul
M
Mark Twain
Hello Paul,
When I started the procedure I opened
up Imgburn to check my disk. It said there
was a newer version of Imgburn available
and did I want to go to their website.
I clicked yes but there were so many to
choose from. I thought I selected the right
one when Avast snapped on and said it blocked
an Adware threat!
This is exactly how this all started, I wish
they would stop adding all these other programs
to the page and its their site. How is one to
know?
At any rate can you please point me to the correct
download to upgrade my imgburn?
I tried to show you a screenshot on the 8500 since
I loaded both imgburns about the same time on both
computers but the 8500 didn't give me the same upgrade
message?
In passing, I still don't see the screen shots on my
side and I have to open yours up. Previously I was able
to see all of them.
Thanks,
Robert
When I started the procedure I opened
up Imgburn to check my disk. It said there
was a newer version of Imgburn available
and did I want to go to their website.
I clicked yes but there were so many to
choose from. I thought I selected the right
one when Avast snapped on and said it blocked
an Adware threat!
This is exactly how this all started, I wish
they would stop adding all these other programs
to the page and its their site. How is one to
know?
At any rate can you please point me to the correct
download to upgrade my imgburn?
I tried to show you a screenshot on the 8500 since
I loaded both imgburns about the same time on both
computers but the 8500 didn't give me the same upgrade
message?
In passing, I still don't see the screen shots on my
side and I have to open yours up. Previously I was able
to see all of them.
Thanks,
Robert
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Nil
All downloads of Imgburn on the official Imgburn site contain adware,
or more accurately, "foistware". That is, it will offer to install
other 3rd party during installation. This advertising is the author's
attempt to make back some money for his efforts. You can safely install
Imgburn if you are careful to observe the prompts during installation
and decline any offers made to you for the other software. Just read
what's going on and don't click on anything until you understand what
it's telling you.
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Paul
Mark said:
You don't need to upgrade your Imgburn.
The old version works just fine. I've never had a problem
with it, and I've even burned dual layer DVDs with it.
When it prompts for an upgrade, I already know the upgrade
will come with a toolbar. I dismiss the upgrade message.
No reason to get Avast excited. It's like when I go to
a web page, and immediately it tries to save a file - I know
the file is infected, and I don't even need the AV
telling me so. It's like if a stranger starts
giving you handfuls of money - it just ain't right
I didn't select the version I did for you, with the
intention of you turning around and upgrading it
I picked that version so you wouldn't get in trouble.
*******
And what do you mean by "don't see the screen shots".
You take a screenshot, put it in a file, and upload
it to tinypic.com . And in the other direction,
if someone gives you a long URL with tinypic.com in it,
your browser will convert that into an image. Are you
saying that you are unable to upload a JPG to tinypic.com
now ? Or you haven't managed to take a print_screen
and paste it into an image editor ? I don't know what
step you're getting stuck at.
There are various screen capture utilities (to make
screen captures in one step). In the more modern OSes,
there is SnippingTool, for taking screen shots. But
I find that a bit confusing, and like my old tool.
And I do on occasion, press shift-Printscreen, which
loads a screenshot into the copy buffer. Then, open
an image editor, make a new file, then do "Paste".
And save the resulting image. A screen capture utility
improves on that a bit, by maybe saving a step.
*******
Now, back to work. You were supposed to burn the ISO9660
file you made, to a DVD. Then, look at the Imgburn log
on the screen, and see if there are any failure messages.
Paul
M
Mark Twain
Hello Paul,
This isn't going right. I thought I created
an ISO file and saved it. Then I went into
Imgburn I tried to create an Image file but
I couldn't figure out how to do so. Its very
confusing.
Regarding screenshots: I'm saying I don't see
the images. I have to click on the link then
enlarge it to view images. Before the images
would just be there.
Thanks,
Robert
This isn't going right. I thought I created
an ISO file and saved it. Then I went into
Imgburn I tried to create an Image file but
I couldn't figure out how to do so. Its very
confusing.
Regarding screenshots: I'm saying I don't see
the images. I have to click on the link then
enlarge it to view images. Before the images
would just be there.
Thanks,
Robert
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Paul
Mark said:
The tinypic site usually wants to put the frame around
the image.
If I give the link to just the JPEG, it puts the frame
around it again. And displays the advertising. You can
try the second link from each pair here, if you think
the raw image will work any better.
What I do, is ignore all the flashing adverts on the left,
go to the lower right quadrant of the window, right click
and do a "View Image". As the quickest way to get there.
Be careful of any "install plugins" or the like, which
Tinypic is now using near the bottom of the browser window.
*******
When you used Macrium, it made the ISO file "rescue.iso".
In the Imgburn interface, you're going to take the
"rescue.iso" file and burn it.
http://i60.tinypic.com/2agivso.gif (Click "Write to disc")
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2agivso.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/30vm54w.gif (Select "rescue.iso")
http://oi59.tinypic.com/30vm54w.jpg (from where you put it!)
You'll get that disc burned soon. If the disc isn't erased,
Imgburn will likely prompt you, then erase it.
Paul
M
Mark Twain
Hello Paul,
I followed your instructions but it
doesn't do anything:
Robert
I followed your instructions but it
doesn't do anything:
Robert
N
Nil
Hello Paul,
I followed your instructions but it
doesn't do anything:
Imgburn says, "Device Not Ready (Medium Not Present)". That means you
haven't put the disk in yet.
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Paul
Nil said:Hello Paul,
I followed your instructions but it
doesn't do anything:
Imgburn says, "Device Not Ready (Medium Not Present)". That means you
haven't put the disk in yet.
Once the disc is inserted, and the nice message goes away,
the next step would be to push the big icon at the bottom
The one with the rectangle-with-circle on the left, triangle
in the middle, and the circle on the right. That's the
"Burn" button.
Then, watch the second window that opened, the "Log" window,
for the details of the burn. If the burn fails, there may be
an ASPI or SCSI type of "sense code", which is a kind of error
code. For some of those, you can look them up, if the
author of that program can't or won't translate
the error message for you.
And as warned before, the author of that program likes
"sound effects". And they play at a rather loud volume.
Turn down the sound slider on your PC, before giving
Imgburn a chance to finish - that way the sound effect
won't "get" you. While you can disable sounds in the
Preferences, this kind of thing scares the crap out
of new users, who don't know it is there.
Paul
M
Mark Twain
The disk was in the computer
Robert
M
Mark Twain
Hello Paul
I tried it again and inserted a disk and
started this at 5:36pm and it's now 11:30pm
and gave me this after I selected to create
an image:
I didn't know if I was suppose to select build
and create image.
Robert
I tried it again and inserted a disk and
started this at 5:36pm and it's now 11:30pm
and gave me this after I selected to create
an image:
I didn't know if I was suppose to select build
and create image.
Robert
M
Mark Twain
Hello Paul,
I don't have to worry about volume on
the 8200 as I don't have speakers
attached to it. I will at some later
date.
I'm still not seeing either mine or
your Tinypic images. I haven't changed
anything yet on both computers the images
no longer appear only the Tinypic link.
Thanks,
Robert
I don't have to worry about volume on
the 8200 as I don't have speakers
attached to it. I will at some later
date.
I'm still not seeing either mine or
your Tinypic images. I haven't changed
anything yet on both computers the images
no longer appear only the Tinypic link.
Thanks,
Robert