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I have not been too satisfied with the news reader that my ISP
provides so I downloaded Agent for a trial. It seems pretty good but
I wondered if anyone would like to comment on Agent or the news reader
they are using.


Agent is very popular and many people think it's the best newsreader. I
started out using Agent, liked it OK, then changed to Outlook Express (now
called Windows Mail, in Vista), which I like even better.

Which is the best newsreader, as with most software categories, is a very
personal choice. They all have different interfaces and different feature
sets. What is important to you may not be (as) important to me, and
vice-versa. We all have different needs and preferences. As a single
example, one of the reasons I prefer Outlook Express to Agent is the way
Outlook Express can easily handle using multiple news servers. For someone
else who uses only a single news server, that Outlook Express feature has no
value at all.

So my recommendation is to ignore my preference and everyone else's. Instead
try as many as you can (that's easy because most of them are either free or
have free trials) and choose what works best for *you*.
 
Leythos said:
While OE is free, it does not work well - as shown my your reply, it
puts the reply at the top instead of the bottom where it belongs.


It is extremely easy to put the cursor, and therefore the reply, wherever
you want it, regardless of what Outlook Express does by default. Since I
often intersperse my replies, to answer point by point, whether the
newsreader puts the cursor at the top or bottom doesn't matter to me at all.
I move it where *I* want it.

Also note that the latest version of Outlook Express, in Vista (where it's
called "Windows Mail," instead of "Outlook Express") finally gives you the
option of whether the default cursor position is at the bottom or the top.
 
Mike

So does OE if that what you want!

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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User said:
Windows Mail has the option to compose at the bottom of the message
 
Some of us prefer top posting!

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Kathy

You have not said what your ISP provided?

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Hi,

I have not been too satisfied with the news reader that my ISP
provides so I downloaded Agent for a trial. It seems pretty good but
I wondered if anyone would like to comment on Agent or the news reader
they are using.

I hate Agent, after a purchase that was one frustration after
another.

Read news.software.readers and you'll see plenty of comparisons.
 
Gordon

Just Ctrl+End before you start to type.

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Gerry

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Enquire, plan and execute.
Stourport, England
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Gerry Cornell said:
Some of us prefer top posting!

Top posting too often leads to sloppy posting, especially on long
threads where top-posters constantly forget to trim.

There is almost never any need for or value in including more than the
most recent message (meaning the one you are specifically replying) in
the response, and often only couple of sentences or a paragraph of the
original is all that is really needed to make then entire message
coherent and comprehendible.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
Ron

Top / Bottom Posting is purely matter of taste. You can be
just as sloppy if you bottom post!

Do you read what others have said in a thread before
you post? How do you monitors threads which have caught y
our interest?

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Regards.

Gerry
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Stourport, England

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I do not bother to read a lot of bottom posted messages. Especially on long
threads with all of the replies included.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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Windows Mail has the option to compose at the bottom of the message

But it doesn't seem that many email client users understand that, and it
appears to not properly post at the bottom and it doesn't properly snip
signatures.

X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16386
Which is evident from your posts.
 
Some of us prefer top posting!

That's an option, but the standard was to snip/bottom post, and didn't
get broken until MS learned about the internet :)

Most every dedicated Usenet client will snip signatures, will bottom
post, many warn when including to much quoted text, etc... OE does none
of those by default.
 
123WVogel955 said:
I do not bother to read a lot of bottom posted messages. Especially on long
threads with all of the replies included.

That would be because people don't know how to snip or they are
intermixing the reply so that it flows properly.

A properly snipped reply should have the reply visible without scrolling
to read the top few lines (at least).
 
A properly snipped reply should have the reply visible without scrolling
to read the top few lines (at least).

Sounds reasonable.

No matter what the problem may be, unless I am really interested in what
they have to say, I won't scroll a mile and a half to get there.

Sheesh. Probably have to scroll a mile and a half to read that sentence.
;-)

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

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123WVogel955 said:
Sounds reasonable.

No matter what the problem may be, unless I am really interested in what
they have to say, I won't scroll a mile and a half to get there.

Sheesh. Probably have to scroll a mile and a half to read that sentence.
;-)

So, why do you still use a email client? :-)
 
Offer Wes your other leg he will pull that one to <g>.

I might like to ride a horse at leisure times but I would prefer
the latest limousine to go to and from work.

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Regards.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
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Offer Wes your other leg he will pull that one to <g>.

I might like to ride a horse at leisure times but I would prefer
the latest limousine to go to and from work.

See what I mean, using those email clients and it doesn't snip the sig
when you replied to me, in fact, your client probably didn't warn you
about the usenet standard of 4-5 lines for a sig :)

Some email clients don't force a break at 73 characters or some other
pre-80 column limit, and then you end up with all sorts of extra long
lines that don't wrap properly in Usenet.

There are days when I think that between OE and Microsoft learning about
the internet, that those are the two worst things in the history of the
internet, well I rank them up there with spam.
 
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