MyIE2 is now Maxthon

[Rod]

Its not just anti-MS people saying it, its CERN..the US Govt Security
Advisory.

The inability to hand over the contents of a secure session to a
remote Russian website for a start.

Trust the US government ? Sorry, not me. But more seriously, I'm trying to
stay away from obscure websites, I have scripting and activeX disabled. I
use Spywareblaster, Spywareguard, Spybot's resident shield, AnalogX
scriptdefender. I'm far from an expert on security. Could you, or someone
else tell me what could go wrong for me using my beloved MyIE2 ? Not that
I'm gonna ditch it, but I just would like to know.

TIA Rod

 

[Bob Adkins]

Which are wrong.

I'm calling you out on that one. Which facts are wrong?

The security issues are real. If they weren't then Spyware tools
wouldn't exist.

Look, a home computer user has NO BUSINESS keeping TRULY SENSITIVE
information on his computer. If they do, they are ASKING FOR TROUBLE, and
deserve it.

If someone steals the contents of my HDD, they will find a bunch of Freeware
and a bunch of other stuff that will absolutely bore them to death.

If the contents my HDD's get deleted, I will restore them from backup and
kick myself for not being more careful.

Now, what's the big flap about security? Why all the paranoia? Some of you
MS haters sound like you keep military secrets or something illegal your
HDD. If you do, you're asking for trouble and deserve your feelings of
paranoia.

On another level, I detest spyware, Adware, and tracking cookies. I hate
viruses, trojans, and worms. However, I treat them as an annoyance, not as
life threatening. Unfortunately, good spyware and AV tools are a necessity
today. Every computer user knows that, and should educate themselves if they
care. I find that most people don't care.

CERN is a joke. Everyone is responsible for his own privacy, not a bunch of
sissy Government bureaucrats.

Bob

 

[Bob Adkins]

Sorry but in the current situation with IE having so many holes then it
SHOULD be judged on what its based on.

Just quit using it and be happy. Leave the happy IE users in peace. Let us
be blissful in our ignorance.

Bob

 

[Bob Adkins]

Does it still install in the myie2 directory, or do we end up with a new install
in some maxthon dir?

I uninstalled MyIE2, and kept my config files. (I had them backed up anyway)
I then re-named the MyIE2 folder <cough!>"Maxthon". Worked great. I only had
to re-configure a few things in <cough!> Maxthon.

Bob

 

[Aaron]

Alright already! I'm growing weary of anti-MS crusaders telling me
about IE's horrible, life-threatening vulnerabilities. Tell some child
that gets viruses and hacks. I've already heard it for the 10,000th
time.

Still doesn't get through to you though, but I expected that, still
waiting for you to boost about our safe your system is actually ,

Remember in the context of this thread, I was just merely pointing out
that that others were interested. Hence for them it was not irrelevant
that MYIE2 is based on IE.

Just how many features does Firefox have that <cough>Maxthon doesn't
have? <ROFL!>

Many, some of which are very important to me.

I was just ribbing him. I couldn't care less what anyone else uses. I
simply state facts.

Aaron, our priorities are different.

Actually our priorities on what features are important, what level of
security is important is different yes, but.....

I do not like or love any
browser.

I get the impression that when you promote or defend MyIe2 (and you do
that a lot) , you don't consider it the same thing as when I or others
promote or defend Firefox.

We or at least *I* do it for presumably the same reason you support MYIE2
over other browsers.

I think Firefox is a superior browser and with its extension system it is
leagues ahead of everything in terms of features. Anti-MS sentiment does
not come into it at all.

We are doing the exact same thing just for different browsers. I suppose
it's nice to paint all fans of mozilla as anti-MS, but that is not true
in my case.

And yes, I try out new browsers all the time, so I don't like or love
Firefox any more than you love MyIE2.

I judge them purely on how fast they are, their features,
reliability, and ease of setup.

Yes I'm exactly like you here. I judge browsers on features, reliability
(that includes security) and ease of setup.

Clearly though we have different opinions on how the 2 stack up on these
areas.


Sorry, but I have no interest in

trendiness, fads, real or imagined security issues,

That's your right of course, but apparantly many other people disagree,
and are concerned , and it's their right too.

or following the
herd.

What herd? Using a IE based browser makes you part of a much better herd
than using Opera or Mozilla.

Bob

Aaron (my email is not munged!)

 

[Rod]

Many, some of which are very important to me.

Out of curiousity: what features exactly are you talking about ?

Rod

 

[Bob Adkins]

Out of curiousity: what features exactly are you talking about ?

I'm waiting too. If he can find one or 2 good features Maxthon lacks
without giving up any that Maxthon has, I'll switch in a heartbeat. I will
not switch because of paranoia or a dislike for MS.

Bob

 

[Conor]

Trust the US government ? Sorry, not me.

In the entire history of the WWW, the US Govt has never issued a
warning about a web-browser until now.

 

[Bob Adkins]

Still doesn't get through to you though, but I expected that, still
waiting for you to boost about our safe your system is actually ,

I'll not boast about anything. I'll just say that aside from a few spybots,
I have not been infected or affected by security problems in several years.

Aaron, do you have an Anti-spam, AV, and firewall programs? I'm sure you do,
and I do too. If Firefox prevented me from having to use the above, I would
probably use it. All it does for me is add 18mb to my HDD and I still have
to run security software. Maxthon's folder size is 4.3 mb, and half of that
is skins.

Remember in the context of this thread, I was just merely pointing out
that that others were interested. Hence for them it was not irrelevant
that MYIE2 is based on IE.

Then why reply to me? You know that I already know everything you said. You
know I agree with you about the security problems in IE, but that's not my
point. My point is they are trivial and irrelevant to those who don't
collect porn, run the 1st National Bank, or work for the CIA.

Many, some of which are very important to me.

I'm still waiting.

Actually our priorities on what features are important, what level of
security is important is different yes, but.....

Security is important. A good level of security is easily attainable by
anyone to prevent getting their computer clogged up with spyware and
malware.

Lockdown security is not needed unless you work for the CIA or keep
sensitive, illegal, or embarrassing material on your HDD. Most folks don't
do that.

Bob

 

[Conor]

I'm calling you out on that one. Which facts are wrong?

Take your pick. You could start with the fact its anti-MS zealots
saying not to use IE.

Look, a home computer user has NO BUSINESS keeping TRULY SENSITIVE
information on his computer. If they do, they are ASKING FOR TROUBLE, and
deserve it.

The point is they don't have to have it on their computer. Reality is
that people use online banking. Reality is that they enter personal
information somewhere at sometime.

If someone steals the contents of my HDD, they will find a bunch of Freeware
and a bunch of other stuff that will absolutely bore them to death.

ITS NOT WHATS STORED ON YOUR HDD THATS THE ISSUE.

Now, what's the big flap about security? Why all the paranoia? Some of you
MS haters sound like you keep military secrets or something illegal your
HDD. If you do, you're asking for trouble and deserve your feelings of
paranoia.

MS Hater? Check the newsreader I'm using. You'll find its only
available for Windows.

Its got **** all to do with secrets or illegal stuff on your HDD. Its
got **** all to do with anything stored on your computer. It has
EVERYTHING to do with logging access details such as
usernames/passwords.

On another level, I detest spyware, Adware, and tracking cookies. I hate
viruses, trojans, and worms. However, I treat them as an annoyance, not as
life threatening. Unfortunately, good spyware and AV tools are a necessity
today. Every computer user knows that, and should educate themselves if they
care. I find that most people don't care.

CERN is a joke. Everyone is responsible for his own privacy, not a bunch of
sissy Government bureaucrats.

Sadly your average Joe Sixpack home user knows **** all about security.

 

[Conor]

Just quit using it and be happy. Leave the happy IE users in peace. Let us
be blissful in our ignorance.

I really hope to God someone fleeces your bank account.

 

[Conor]

Out of curiousity: what features exactly are you talking about ?

Last version of MyIE2 I tried lacked mouse gestures. Not a massively
important thing but makes browsing multiple pages easier.

 

[Rod]

Last version of MyIE2 I tried lacked mouse gestures. Not a massively
important thing but makes browsing multiple pages easier.

That check must have been some time ago, because as fra as I can remember,
MyIE2 has always had mousegestures, I've been using MyIE2 for about
one-and-a-half year know.

Rod

 

[Conor]

Aaron, do you have an Anti-spam, AV, and firewall programs? I'm sure you do,
and I do too. If Firefox prevented me from having to use the above, I would
probably use it. All it does for me is add 18mb to my HDD and I still have
to run security software. Maxthon's folder size is 4.3 mb, and half of that
is skins.

You can get rid of AV and Spware cleaners. Maxthon is only 4.3MB
because it relies on IE. What size is it if you actually include all
the stuff used to run IE?

Security is important. A good level of security is easily attainable by
anyone to prevent getting their computer clogged up with spyware and
malware.

Lockdown security is not needed unless you work for the CIA or keep
sensitive, illegal, or embarrassing material on your HDD. Most folks don't
do that.

HOW MANY TIMES?

It has **** ALL to do with what you store on your HDD.
Passwords/usernames and credit card details gleaned from online
transactions are far more profitable.

Alot of people use online shopping or online banking. The latest hole
allowed a log of a secure transaction to be sent to a hackers website.
Most of the malware required to do this was loaded onto bank servers
that'd been compromised. You logged on, an innocuous popup window
opened and the malware was downloaded by IE. It then logged the
HTTPS/SSL session and sent the contents to a russian server.

 

[Conor]

That check must have been some time ago, because as fra as I can remember,
MyIE2 has always had mousegestures, I've been using MyIE2 for about
one-and-a-half year know.

I would have probably stuck with MyIE2 had it not been based on IE.

 

[Rod]

I would have probably stuck with MyIE2 had it not been based on IE.

Understood, I was wondering about the missing features (and still am after
Aaron's post), because I tried Firefox, found it slow on my old and slow
sytem and never could get it configured like MyIE2, which does everything I
want, and does it the way I want it. Personally I don't care about it being
based on IE. I keep far away from online-banking, as I don't trust that
regardless what browser used. You do care about it being based on IE, fair
enough, we're both happy with our browsers I guess.

Rod

 

[DAN]

Thanks Jari and Bob.

Hopefully a newer version will fix those silly upgrade issues.

DAN

 

[Bob Adkins]

I really hope to God someone fleeces your bank account.

That's a dreadful thing to say. I hope you get toenail fungus.


Bob

 

[Bob Adkins]

You can get rid of AV and Spware cleaners. Maxthon is only 4.3MB
because it relies on IE. What size is it if you actually include all
the stuff used to run IE?

Maxthon is only 2.3mb without the skins. IE's 30mb of bulk does not matter
because it's part of the OS. That's why it's faster than the stand-alone
browsers.

Many Maxthon users are hoping it will go stand-alone. That would be nice.

Bob

 

[Bob Adkins]

In the entire history of the WWW, the US Govt has never issued a
warning about a web-browser until now.

So, either IE was safe until just now, or the Government didn't have a clue
until just now. I think neither are to be trusted.

Bob