Microsoft MVPs

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That will do nothing PA and you know that for sure. IP can be spoofed and
cloned!!!!


PA Bear said:
[OT: Both you and Leonard would be doing yourselves a favor if you posted to
the newsgroups via NNTP instead of the web-interface.]
Nor do I mouth anyone PA or impersonate people. I think you know and I
know
now even by using the CDO who impersonating me and bad mouthing you!
(Yaya Butts) he will never learn or stop doing his trolling in the NG!!!
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That will do nothing PA and you know that for sure. IP can be spoofed and
cloned!!!!
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Using a newsreader may not protect you against other people
impersonating you, but it should certainly make *your* experience here
much better. Using the web interface is the slowest, clunkiest, most
error-prone method there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a
newsreader, such as Outlook Express, which comes with Windows. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm


PA Bear said:
[OT: Both you and Leonard would be doing yourselves a favor if you posted to
the newsgroups via NNTP instead of the web-interface.]
Nor do I mouth anyone PA or impersonate people. I think you know and I
know
now even by using the CDO who impersonating me and bad mouthing you!
(Yaya Butts) he will never learn or stop doing his trolling in the NG!!!



:

Wrong! (And the real "nass" doesn't post as "nass [MVP]".)

nass [MVP] wrote:
Hi, my name nass.
I am a NEW [MVP], and so happy.
I am over the sun with happinesas, and so is my business.
Business is booming; I have lot specialos
I choose to hide my name on that list, as I am shy.


Are there any special rules governing the use of the designation
MS-MVP?

I ask the question because, according to the page at
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx, the Microsoft
MVP Awardee directory contains a listing of all MVPs that want to share
information publicly.

However, when I conducted advanced searches against the names of
contributors to several newsgroups (who claim to be MVPs), the search
engine produced the following response "No results were found for your
search criteria".
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the real nass knows
this already...

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Ken Blake said:
That will do nothing PA and you know that for sure. IP can be spoofed and
cloned!!!!
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Using a newsreader may not protect you against other people
impersonating you, but it should certainly make *your* experience here
much better. Using the web interface is the slowest, clunkiest, most
error-prone method there is. Do yourself a favor and switch to a
newsreader, such as Outlook Express, which comes with Windows. See
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm


PA Bear said:
[OT: Both you and Leonard would be doing yourselves a favor if you posted to
the newsgroups via NNTP instead of the web-interface.]

nass wrote:
Nor do I mouth anyone PA or impersonate people. I think you know and I
know
now even by using the CDO who impersonating me and bad mouthing you!
(Yaya Butts) he will never learn or stop doing his trolling in the NG!!!



:

Wrong! (And the real "nass" doesn't post as "nass [MVP]".)

nass [MVP] wrote:
Hi, my name nass.
I am a NEW [MVP], and so happy.
I am over the sun with happinesas, and so is my business.
Business is booming; I have lot specialos
I choose to hide my name on that list, as I am shy.


Are there any special rules governing the use of the designation
MS-MVP?

I ask the question because, according to the page at
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx, the Microsoft
MVP Awardee directory contains a listing of all MVPs that want to share
information publicly.

However, when I conducted advanced searches against the names of
contributors to several newsgroups (who claim to be MVPs), the search
engine produced the following response "No results were found for your
search criteria".
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The spoofer who's stalking the two of you (at least) probably wouldn't go to
that trouble.
That will do nothing PA and you know that for sure. IP can be spoofed and
cloned!!!!


PA Bear said:
[OT: Both you and Leonard would be doing yourselves a favor if you posted
to the newsgroups via NNTP instead of the web-interface.]
Nor do I mouth anyone PA or impersonate people. I think you know and I
know
now even by using the CDO who impersonating me and bad mouthing you!
(Yaya Butts) he will never learn or stop doing his trolling in the NG!!!



:

Wrong! (And the real "nass" doesn't post as "nass [MVP]".)

nass [MVP] wrote:
Hi, my name nass.
I am a NEW [MVP], and so happy.
I am over the sun with happinesas, and so is my business.
Business is booming; I have lot specialos
I choose to hide my name on that list, as I am shy.


Are there any special rules governing the use of the designation
MS-MVP?

I ask the question because, according to the page at
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx, the Microsoft
MVP Awardee directory contains a listing of all MVPs that want to
share
information publicly.

However, when I conducted advanced searches against the names of
contributors to several newsgroups (who claim to be MVPs), the search
engine produced the following response "No results were found for
your
search criteria".
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Leonard, my freind; be very carful.
lots and lots of trolls here now!
EMAIL me at the addt I gave you.
--
HTH
nass
---
http://www.nasstec.co.uk



Leonard Grey said:
Over the weekend I made a promise I wouldn't respond to my impersonator.

And I won't.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare Humanum Est

Leonard said:
Or maybe CFS - for Certified "Forking" Shlemiel.
Whaddaya think?
--
Leonard Grey [CFS]
Errare Humanum Est


I'm thinking about a suitable designation for people like me: Certified
Shlemiel, or CS.

What's that you say? Oh...you already know I'm a shlemiel, even without
a designation.
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i am over the sunb.
I am a MVP, you did not stop me, you TROLL.
All is forgivenm.
Cum to my shop in SURREY, for BIG SPECIALAS.
 
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:: Website Design: You too can have a sight that looks like this <yuk>!

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:: Garden Design: Sow and Mow!

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:: Service Request: What's that?

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:: I am aMVP, and BIG SPECIALAS!!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: What's New: My clean underwear.

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:: Gift Ideas: Spend, spend, spend!!!!!

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:: Car Tech: We'll overclock your car to win the F1, or go into Bios!

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:: Free Recipes:Wifey's olde favourites; chew and spew!
 
Mike said:
You have it all worked out, eh.

Some may not be public because their employers might think that they would
possibly do free work in works time.
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They obviously don't need to add "MVP" to their moniker when they are
supposedly wasting company time doing non-company work.
Some employers may consider the MVP award status to be in competition with
what the company does/supplies.
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Another reason to NOT include "MVP" in the moniker.
Some MVPs may not be in a position politically.
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I'm not sure you meant. A political "position" might have a meaning
that I'm not aware off, like touching your toes while backside exposed.
 
Bruce said:
I, for one, would have nothing against my name appearing in an official list
provided by MS. I just don't want my life history made public. They *could*
have two lists, but they don't. I have nothing I need to hide in my profile,
it's just a "nobody's business" thing.
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You're claiming that becoming an MVP involves a background check by the
FBI to publicly divulge all your personal details rather than you
volunteering what is divulged in your MVP profile?

I see some MVP profiles that look like:

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F78781BC-E1DF-4130-872A-5CE4281165DB

This guy has a company that he identifies but he certainly didn't go
hogwild like:

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=F08FBD8C-246D-41E9-A856-FD9163687517

And then there is the minimalist MVP profile at:

https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=E1B66E03-4FBC-488A-875F-48405A0139C4

MVP profiles range from specifying nothing beyond a name (don't know if
even that is required versus a moniker) to detailing a life history. So
obviously the MVP *does* get to pick what gets put into their profile.
That the person is in the official list means users can verify the claim
that a poster is a real MVP. There is NOTHING that mandates that an MVP
has to divulge their personal life and private details in their profile.
MVPs that hide so they cannot be verified shouldn't be surprised that
they get dumped in the same boat as posters like pcbutts1 that lie about
being an MVP.

If users can't verify your status, you don't have that status! You
saying you have it doesn't make it so. Too many times I've run into a
dead end trying to verify someone claiming they are an MVP that now
"MVP" means nothing in their nym. Too many have chosen to hide.
 
His name, which he often uses in his messages (or else I wouldn't
tell you), is Robear Dyer. PA Bear is sort of a nickname. Go back to
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx and look for
Robear Dyer, which you will find there.

I can also personally vouch for his being an MVP, because I've
several times met him at MVP events at Microsoft in Seattle.
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Yep, I went to the Microsoft Awardee site and did a search on "bear".
Saw the Robear entry. From another post, looked like Robear and PA Bear
were the same. This was all guesswork. Users trying to verify an MVP's
status shouldn't have to guess. I know folks like to use monikers
instead of their real name (hey, I do). Alas, MVP profiles seem to be
freeform so there probably isn't a fixed field within each MVP record to
specify a [list of] moniker associated to an MVP identity that would
get included in a search.

I've hit a dead end too many times trying to verify someone who claims
to be an MVP that long ago I stopped giving it any importance. They
might be, they might not, don't care anymore because MVPs are allowed to
hide and too many do. They want to add a credential to their moniker
but they don't want it to be verifiable. Reminds me of those old spams
luring folks to get their college diplomas in a day just by paying some
money and getting an e-mail that they could print. Yeah, right.
 
:: Home: Our Shop in Surrey is YOUR second Home; <sigh>

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:: Networking: We have a Network of Happy Hookers <mmmm>.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: Tools & Utilities: Use your own; hint, hint! <oh lala)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: Website Design: You too can have a sight that looks like this <yuk>!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: Garden Design: Sow and Mow!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: Service Request: What's that?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: I am aMVP, and BIG SPECIALAS!!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: What's New: My clean underwear.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: Gift Ideas: Spend, spend, spend!!!!!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: Car Tech: We'll overclock your car to win the F1, or go into Bios!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: Free Recipes:Wifey's olde favourites; chew and spew!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: Other Links: OK to put porn in?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: Link To Us: that's HOT!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

:: Contact Us: use the crap on the link!
 
Twayne said:
Then ... what are they doing on the newsgroups?
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You're "on the newsgroups" and don't share any personal information with us.
What's the diff?
 
PA said:
Ah yes, very true, but then the status of MVP has been diluted by real
MVPs that choose to hide. You can't check on their credentials
because they chose to hide. Gee, would you trust a doctor, dentist,
or any other self-claimed professional whose credentials you could
not certify? That MVPs can hide so their credentials are not public
(which has nothing to do with divulging private information) pretty
much renders the who concept worthless. Anyone could claim they are
an MVP, like Patricia here claiming to be one (after nymshifting away
from her pcbutts1 moniker). You don't need to go ego-stroking your
status to announce your MVP status to other MVPs. That ego-stroking
is to announce yourself to non-MVPs in a newsgroup (i.e., to the
general populace that visit there). To the public, if your
self-claimed MVP credentials cannot be traced to those that provide
that certification then you don't have those credentials as far as
the public is concerned. Unless the status of MVP is traceable, it
means nothing.

I've looked at mvps.org. Didn't find anyone named "Bear" there.
Looked at https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/communities/mvp.aspx.
There are couple of "bear" names with that substring but nothing that
would match on the "pa" part of your moniker. So just how *we*
non-MVPs visiting the newsgroups know YOU aren't yet another troll
pretending to be an MVP? We can't so the claim to be an MVP cannot
be verified which means the MVP title is not only worthless but
possibly deliberately misleading. Is there yet some other MVP
credentials list for checking on whether or not someone who claims to
be an MVP can actually be verified to be an MVP?
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They make slight considerations for silly things but posting with "MVP"
when it can't be verified, IIRC, is not supposed to be done according to
their list of reqs. And of course posing is, well, just plain
stupidest, if there is such a word. It doesn't matter much though
because of the dilution of the title over, gosh, more than a decade now.

I'm not trying to ding a few good, very knowledgeable MVPs here for whom
I posess a lot of respect; all I'm doing is talking reality of the
situation. What it boils down to, is those who have earned respect for
their contributions and accuracy get it easily, the rest don't. Any
titles, in my book anyway, are pretty much inconsquential unless it
turns out to be someone I can hold in more than average esteem.

IMO the "best" list is the one right there on the entry page:
http://mvps.org/ .

My 2 ¢ anyway,

Twayne
 
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