Is My Monitor Dying?

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You are speaking like it's still 2001, man. 17" LCD monitors are obsolete,
in the sense that any good one will be just as expensive as a similar 19".
Also, you would be extremely unlucky to buy any LCD monitor in 2006 that has
ghosting problems at all. -Dave
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To be honest, I've never owned an LCD. The only time I ever
gamed on one was a family member's 17" that came with their cheap,
"cookie cutter" eMachine like system. I never looked into buying an
LCD, cause when I got this 21" CRT, the 15", & 17" LCD was the only
monitors near my price range. After having this huge screen, I didn't
want to go back to a smaller screen.
I just looked, and see I can get a 19" LCD with DVI (not sure
if all LCDs have this, or not) for $193.00 shipped. It says it has a
12ms response time, while more expensive models have 8ms. I'm guessing
the smaller number is better. Does this LCD sound like a good gaming
monitor? I can get a nice used, and better featured than I have now,
21" CRT for less than that LCD, but it is a whole lot easier to move
an LCD than a CRT. I'm handicapped, and find a 15" to be difficult to
move. I have to have a friend, or family member unpack, and move that
"hulk" for me. The desk space saved is also a plus with LCDs as well.
 
Larry said:
To be honest, I've never owned an LCD. The only time I ever
gamed on one was a family member's 17" that came with their cheap,
"cookie cutter" eMachine like system. I never looked into buying an
LCD, cause when I got this 21" CRT, the 15", & 17" LCD was the only
monitors near my price range. After having this huge screen, I didn't
want to go back to a smaller screen.
I just looked, and see I can get a 19" LCD with DVI (not sure
if all LCDs have this, or not) for $193.00 shipped. It says it has a
12ms response time, while more expensive models have 8ms. I'm guessing
the smaller number is better. Does this LCD sound like a good gaming
monitor? I can get a nice used, and better featured than I have now,
21" CRT for less than that LCD, but it is a whole lot easier to move
an LCD than a CRT. I'm handicapped, and find a 15" to be difficult to
move. I have to have a friend, or family member unpack, and move that
"hulk" for me. The desk space saved is also a plus with LCDs as well.
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For FPS gaming.. CRTs are still the best.. I saw that you had the rez
at 1280X768..
isn't that widescreen rez..? For LCDs.. I love my Dell 20" and 24"..
for the price after coupons.. they can't be bet. People complain about
ghosting on LCD.. that is just up to the person.. with those refresh
times at 8ms or 16ms. or even 4ms.. different compares them differently
and so take that number lightly

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The symptoms indicate nothing wrong with the CRT but a problem
elsewhere in the monitor. What makes you think it's the CRT?
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Correction: The _monitor_ is dying. In any case, it's time to junk
it and get a new monitor.
 
I would never attempt to go inside this thing. Way too afraid. I have
the screen size set at 768 x 1280 and refresh at 72 hertz. I did try
another monitor power cord but didn't make a difference. Interesting,
I got a message from my Nvdia program saying not enough power to the
graphics card. I opened up my case but the power connector for the
card was plugged in. I even tried another connector off my power
supply just to be sure. Still having the same problem. As to the
monitor driver, it's a Windows driver for plug and play monitor. I
can't find a driver specifically for this monitor, a Logisys X910.
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Are you certain there isn't a problem with the AC power feeding
your computer room ? Why would the video card report a problem
at the same time as the monitor is having a problem ?

In our house wiring here, we have two phases and a neutral. Half
of the outlets will be on one phase, and half on the other.
One phase to neutral is 110V. When a major appliance needs power,
connecting to both phases yields 220V and more current. Now,
in that system, if the neutral shifts to one side, one phase
ends up with more voltage on it, than the other.

If you plug an incandescent light bulb into the power strip your
gear is plugged into, is the light bulb full brightness ? Now take
it elsewhere where you are at, and plug it into another outlet.
Is the bulb the same brightness ?

I'd recommend a multimeter to measure the voltage, but I don't
want to be responsible for getting someone electrocuted :-(

Paul
 
..
To be honest, I've never owned an LCD. The only time I ever
gamed on one was a family member's 17" that came with their cheap,
"cookie cutter" eMachine like system. I never looked into buying an
LCD, cause when I got this 21" CRT, the 15", & 17" LCD was the only
monitors near my price range. After having this huge screen, I didn't
want to go back to a smaller screen.
I just looked, and see I can get a 19" LCD with DVI (not sure
if all LCDs have this, or not) for $193.00 shipped. It says it has a
12ms response time, while more expensive models have 8ms. I'm guessing
the smaller number is better. Does this LCD sound like a good gaming
monitor?
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YES!!! It sounds like a great gaming monitor. Anything from 12ms or down
is good. But, you need to be aware that all those specifications are
fudged. So I'd feel a bit more comfortable going for an 8ms monitor for
gaming. At least the fudge factor means the real spec. probabaly won't be
higher than 12ms. -Dave
 
I have a 19" CRT monitor
All of the sudden today my monitor is degausing itself. It
clicks on and off like it would if you press the degaus button.
It is also making a weird sound, for lack of a better word.
Kind of like a clicking sound when the monitor first turns on.
The only thing I"ve done differently is I installed updated
drivers for my Creative Audigy soundcard last night.
Does anyone have any idea if this is a hardware problem with the
monitor, or is it possible the sound card driver update messed
something up.
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It's the monitor. Do the symptoms change when you whack it? If so,
then it's probably a bad solder connection. Otherwise I'd suspect one
of the two power supplies -- the main one (where the AC cord plugs in)
or the flyback circuitry (generates several voltages) going bad because
of a resistor getting too hot or an electrolytic capacitor failing.
There are shops that do flat rate repairs on monitors for about $100,
but you may be able to find a TV shop willing to do it for half as
much, if the problem can be found in 30 minutes (it probably can). If
this doesn't seems too costly, then at the very least don't simply dump
it but instead give it to somebody who knows how to solder but is short
on cash.

Apparently one way to make monitors last longer is by running them at
the lowest refresh rate practical because this stresses the flyback
circuitry less, and this may especially help cheaper makes, which I'd
never run at their maximum refresh rate.
 
Paul wrote:Are you certain there isn't a problem with the AC power
feeding
your computer room ? Why would the video card report a problem
at the same time as the monitor is having a problem ?
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I know, very strange. I have a Seasonic S12 500w PSU that's only a few
months old. Also, I just had an electrician put in a grounded outlet
about 2 weeks ago.
In our house wiring here, we have two phases and a neutral. Half
of the outlets will be on one phase, and half on the other.
One phase to neutral is 110V. When a major appliance needs power,
connecting to both phases yields 220V and more current. Now,
in that system, if the neutral shifts to one side, one phase
ends up with more voltage on it, than the other.

If you plug an incandescent light bulb into the power strip your
gear is plugged into, is the light bulb full brightness ? Now take
it elsewhere where you are at, and plug it into another outlet.
Is the bulb the same brightness ?

I'd recommend a multimeter to measure the voltage, but I don't
want to be responsible for getting someone electrocuted :-(

Paul
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I'll try the lightbulb test. It is odd that this all is happening 2
weeks after having that grounded outlet installed. Meanwhile, I have
not had any indication from the Nvidia app that the graphics card is
under powered since I opened the case and unplugged and replugged in
the power connector to the card. This morning the monitor turned on
okay, but still hearing the crackling noise from the rear.

On a good note, I was reading my extended warranty again and noted that
the 2 year coverage starts after the manufacturer's labor warranty
ends. So I called the warranty company and they are sending me a label
to send in the monitor, and in return they will send me an Office Max
giftcard for the amount I paid for the monitor ($150). I'm going to
hook up my Sony 17" monitor tonight that I have down the basement and
see how that one performs. I'm still concerned that the Nvidia app
reported under power.

Thanks again everyone for your help. It is greatly appreciated.
 
larry said:
It's the monitor. Do the symptoms change when you whack it?
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If so, then it's probably a bad solder connection. Otherwise I'd
suspect one
of the two power supplies -- the main one (where the AC cord plugs in)
or the flyback circuitry (generates several voltages) going bad because
of a resistor getting too hot or an electrolytic capacitor failing.
There are shops that do flat rate repairs on monitors for about $100,
but you may be able to find a TV shop willing to do it for half as
much, if the problem can be found in 30 minutes (it probably can). If
this doesn't seems too costly, then at the very least don't simply dump
it but instead give it to somebody who knows how to solder but is short
on cash.
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Thanks, but it seems my extended warranty is going to cover it
afterall. I don't usually buy extended warranties but I'm really glad
I did this time. They do want me to ship them the monitor but at least
they're sending a prepaid label.
Apparently one way to make monitors last longer is by running them at
the lowest refresh rate practical because this stresses the flyback
circuitry less, and this may especially help cheaper makes, which I'd
never run at their maximum refresh rate.
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I always ran it at 75 hertz. I think 85 hertz is the max for this one
but not sure.

Now I have to decide whether to go with an LCD or another CRT. Any
thoughts in that regard?
 
Thanks, but it seems my extended warranty is going to cover it
afterall. I don't usually buy extended warranties but I'm really glad
I did this time. They do want me to ship them the monitor but at least
they're sending a prepaid label.
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I hope they do a better job than Panasonic did for me several years
ago. They sent me a couple of monitors in a row that were in kind of
wrecked condition and got really nasty. They turned the matter over to
their legal dept., which seemed to be staffed by gangsters -- what a
sleazy bunch. No wonder Panasonic has an unsatisfactory rating with
the Better Business Bureau.
Now I have to decide whether to go with an LCD or another CRT. Any
thoughts in that regard?
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It depends on whether you're buying or finding. ;) LCDs are about the
same price as CRTs, at least in the larger sizes, but there are so many
free CRTs now that I was able to upgrade to 19" monitors for free.
 
Paul wrote:Are you certain there isn't a problem with the AC power
feeding

I know, very strange. I have a Seasonic S12 500w PSU that's only a
few months old.
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Also, I just had an electrician put in a grounded outlet about 2 weeks ago.
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That is a real worry, he may well have stuffed that up.

At least try it on another outlet.
I'll try the lightbulb test. It is odd that this all is happening
2 weeks after having that grounded outlet installed.
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More evidence that he might well have stuffed that up.
Meanwhile, I have not had any indication from the Nvidia app that the
graphics card is under powered since I opened the case and unplugged
and replugged in the power connector to the card. This morning the
monitor turned on okay, but still hearing the crackling noise from the rear.
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larry said:
I hope they do a better job than Panasonic did for me several years
ago. They sent me a couple of monitors in a row that were in kind of
wrecked condition and got really nasty. They turned the matter over to
their legal dept., which seemed to be staffed by gangsters -- what a
sleazy bunch. No wonder Panasonic has an unsatisfactory rating with
the Better Business Bureau.
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What a drag. The last Panasonic product I had was a VCR that lived a
very short life.
In my case, they are going to send me a replacement or try to repair
the monitor, but rather they send a giftcard for Office Max. Office
Max doesn't have a great selection of monitors but I guess I can't
afford to be picky.

It depends on whether you're buying or finding. ;) LCDs are about the
same price as CRTs, at least in the larger sizes, but there are so many
free CRTs now that I was able to upgrade to 19" monitors for free.
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I would love to find one. I did pick one up by the side of the road
once that someone was throwing out but unfortunately it didn't work and
I'm not brave enough to open up a monitor.
 
In my case, they are going to send me a replacement or try to
repair the monitor, but rather they send a giftcard for Office
Max. Office Max doesn't have a great selection of monitors but I
guess I can't afford to be picky.
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Not suggesting that OfficeMax has a great selection, but, if you
mean they have few CRTs, that probably because CRTs are going out of
style. Most new monitors are LCD.

Good luck.
 
Hi guys,
Something very strange is happening with my monitor now. It's working!
No more arcing or crackling noise, and no more degausing or turning on
and off. How is this possible that it's suddenly working fine for the
past 2 days? I'm still waiting on the Office Max giftcard from the
warranty company. I guess when I get it, I'll just hold on to it in
case the monitor "dies" again. Has anyone every heard of a monitor
suddenly start working again?
 
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Hi guys,
Something very strange is happening with my monitor now. It's
working! No more arcing or crackling noise, and no more degausing or
turning on and off. How is this possible that it's suddenly working
fine for the past 2 days? I'm still waiting on the Office Max
giftcard from the warranty company. I guess when I get it, I'll just
hold on to it in case the monitor "dies" again. Has anyone every
heard of a monitor suddenly start working again?
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Did you water it?



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It was pretty humid here the past couple weeks, but it's been humid
before and it never affected the monitor.
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The humidity is only relevant once the FBT has started arcing.
 
Something very strange is happening with my monitor now.
It's working! No more arcing or crackling noise, and no more
degausing or turning on and off. How is this possible that
it's suddenly working fine for the past 2 days?
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Thats not uncommon with a failing FBT, the arcing doesnt
always happen and it varys with the humidity etc.
I'm still waiting on the Office Max giftcard from the warranty company.
I guess when I get it, I'll just hold on to it in case the monitor "dies" again.
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It will.
Has anyone every heard of a monitor suddenly start working again?
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Yes, that is very common with a failing FBT.
 
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Did you water it?
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I heard when you plug it in, it tends to work again. however when you
unplug it it goes off
weird that
 
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