Irreconcilable Differences

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domenica 27/giu/2004 _Roger Johansson_ in
We would have to search for
years to find somebody who could do her job half as good as her.
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Well said, Roger, I totally agree with you.

I think also that the group should do the best to make the webmaster
comfortable with the job. This seems to me the primary rule.
The host, the domain, the name, the money come after.
These are tools, not a person.
 
WYFP?Not familiar with this particular abbreviation, tho I don't much care as
I suspect it is not a highly complimentary designation.

It WAS silly for you to bring it up. IMO.

I think (again, INTENT being considered) that the OP was simply offering
her help, and as an aside mentioned the sex issue.

I agree with you that it would and should make absolutely -no-
difference to the mediating process.

I simply believe the offer was made in a good faith and in an innocent
way that didn't necessitate the 'sexism' rant.
 
Mister said:
John Corliss wrote:
WYFP?

Not familiar with this particular abbreviation, tho I don't much care as
I suspect it is not a highly complimentary designation.
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Simple: "What's your freaking point?"
It WAS silly for you to bring it up. IMO.
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And I disagree, so we disagree. Period.
I think (again, INTENT being considered) that the OP was simply offering
her help, and as an aside mentioned the sex issue.

I agree with you that it would and should make absolutely -no-
difference to the mediating process.

I simply believe the offer was made in a good faith and in an innocent
way that didn't necessitate the 'sexism' rant.
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Well, I would tend to agree that the offer was made in good faith.
However, what I said wasn't a rant. Why is it that when a woman claims
sexism it invariably is taken seriously but when a man does it, it's a
"rant"?

Trivializing my concerns in this manner won't stop me from expressing
them again in the future.

EOD.
 
»Q« said:
Might want to be careful with that one. I've only seen it used as
"What's your effing problem?"
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It's a multi-use acronym. I guess that's the whole point of using it. 80)>
 
Please Genna, you should have understood by now that this is exactly the
discussion Susan does not want to go through.

Are you trying to make her bail out?

You could give a very positive contribution to this situation by backing
down, no matter if you think it is right or wrong.

For the good cause, the pricelessware list, for the peace of mind of
Susan, and to avoid a long and complicated discussion here in acf.

With all the paranoid nuts present here it would no doubt become a dirty
mess, and it would make Susan bail out. We would have to search for
years to find somebody who could do her job half as good as her.
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You've missed a bit somewhere Roger.
Genna did back off and handed everything over to SOS, which was done
selflessly for the good of the group.
That magnanimous gesture was more than Susan could handle, so she had to do
her own big thing, and resign.
When that didn't achieve the dewsired result she quickly withdrew her
resignation (or "un-resigned" as she put it. Must be some American
expression) and started a vote count, which is where we are up to now.
Thing is, we can come here for discussion, help and a bit of OT banter, and
wisit SOS's site, or Garrett's site, or Hank's site for Freeware.
So Susan can take her bat & ball and can go play in her own backyard with
her friends. I'll stay with the aforementioned sites, and Pricelessware.org
if Genna keeps it going.
 
IMO, Susan should be given carte blanche concerning the Pricelessware
site. She's dedicated herself to the cause in a way Genna and SOS never
did.
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Susan isn't paying the bills. Genna is. If Susan wants to have
absolute control over a site then she can have it. By getting
her own.
 
John Corliss said:
Simple: "What's your freaking point?"


And I disagree, so we disagree. Period.


Well, I would tend to agree that the offer was made in good faith.
However, what I said wasn't a rant. Why is it that when a woman claims
sexism it invariably is taken seriously but when a man does it, it's a
"rant"?
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I'm sure more women than you can imagine would vehemently disagree with
your characterization. Women have been and are still vicitims of
life-long discrimination.
Trivializing my concerns in this manner won't stop me from expressing
them again in the future.
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I have no problem with you expressing them in the future, given that the
situation warrants it.
 
I suppose that I began reading this group about the time Susan began
taking care of the tedious work of maintaining the PL site. I can't
forget how well it functioned and how professionally she interacted
with me on occasion. This is the only PL that I've known. I would like
to thank Susan for her hard work and the obvious long hours that she
put into each task. A vacation is long overdue, but this isn't what I
had in mind.
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I agree entirely with the opinion expressed above. I don't
remember exactly when I began reading the pricelessware pages or
the newsgroup.

I found the work done by Susan to be really great. Especially as
it's unpaid and is way better than anything provided by a lot of
software manufacturers.

Trevor
 
POKO said:
Can't take any more of this crap. It's worse than The Guiding Light.
Somebody e-mail when this is all over and done with - I'll clear all
messages and start from scratch.
Out of here until sanity is restored,
POKO
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I´m one your side on this
 
Mister said:
care as


I'm sure more women than you can imagine would vehemently disagree with
your characterization.
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Of course they would since like any other group of people it serves
their interests to do so. But for anybody to imply that women are
incapable of sexism is bullshit in the purest sense and I think you're
fully aware of that.
Women have been and are still vicitims of
life-long discrimination.
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So what's your point? Does this mean that they are now free to engage
in such things against others?

Get a grip.
I have no problem with you expressing them in the future, given that the
situation warrants it.
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<sarcasm> Well, that's real nice of you to allow me that. </sarcasm>

Any problems you have with what I say are your concern, not mine. As
everybody was so fond of telling me, this is a public, unmoderated
group. Like everybody else, I'll say anything I want in this group and
there's not a thing you can do about it except to filter out my
messages or complain.

Now, as I said *EOFD*. You can keep blathering away but I won't see or
respond to any further discussion. And no, you have not changed my
opinions in any way or caused me to consider refraining from
expressing them again in the future exactly as I have done in this thread.
 
John Corliss said:
Of course they would since like any other group of people it serves
their interests to do so. But for anybody to imply that women are
incapable of sexism is bullshit in the purest sense and I think you're
fully aware of that.
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I never said they were. Some of the militant feminists are quite
sexist.
So what's your point? Does this mean that they are now free to engage
in such things against others?
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No. It's to counter your absurd stance.
Get a grip.
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I would suggest likewise.
<sarcasm> Well, that's real nice of you to allow me that. </sarcasm>
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Whatever. Your seeming self-importance is woefully misplaced.
Any problems you have with what I say are your concern, not mine. As
everybody was so fond of telling me, this is a public, unmoderated
group. Like everybody else, I'll say anything I want in this group and
there's not a thing you can do about it except to filter out my
messages or complain.
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Which I did. And you're still going on about it.
Now, as I said *EOFD*. You can keep blathering away but I won't see or
respond to any further discussion. And no, you have not changed my
opinions in any way or caused me to consider refraining from
expressing them again in the future exactly as I have done in this
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thread.

Jesus. A bit touchy, eh? Usually I've been in your corner but you seem
to demonstrate some of your critic's worst accusations here. Ah well,
it's just Usenet.
 
Tramp said:
Susan has access to everything but one page and the page in question is
not needed to manage the site.
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That page needs to be changed at least once a year.
 
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