IP5000 Advice Required

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Davy

Inkjets if not used will 'clog up'.

If not used for a period of time, obviously one should print say a
small picture or a small test pattern using all the printers
colour's to prevent clogging.

How often should this be, every 2 or 3 days say, could it be a touch
longer?

Not easy to say I know, and can well understand different makes,
different models even will have their own 'quirks'.

I 'tossed' the C62 an planning on getting the pixma 5000 and want want
to avoid the 'Epson Syndrome' which I doubt I will catch with a
Canon.

Davy
 
Davy said:
Inkjets if not used will 'clog up'.

If not used for a period of time, obviously one should print say a
small picture or a small test pattern using all the printers
colour's to prevent clogging.

How often should this be, every 2 or 3 days say, could it be a touch
longer?

Not easy to say I know, and can well understand different makes,
different models even will have their own 'quirks'.

I 'tossed' the C62 an planning on getting the pixma 5000 and want want
to avoid the 'Epson Syndrome' which I doubt I will catch with a
Canon.
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You can relax. I have the iP5000 and it never clogs or requires head
cleans, and I don't even use OEM ink. In fact, I haven't even registered
it yet and I've had it since Christmas. I guess that shows that I'm not
exactly worried it will shortly die on me.

My heavier load printer is the i860 which I use for everyday documents,
manuals and not that important photos and lesser special projects. My
highest quality work is reserved for the iP5000. If the printhead goes
on either printer I can get a new one from eBay for around $55 (US).

If I have nothing special planned for the iP5000 one week, I'll just
print a shopping list (in color) or something, just to keep it happy.
Printers do get jealous when ignored. I'm sure you can go weeks without
printing anything before it may or may not clog. But it doesn't hurt
to print a little document once a week to be on the safe side. You
certainly won't be disappointed with the iP5000.

-Taliesyn
 
I haven't experienced problems with clogging on any of my Canon inkjets.
Some of them have been left unused for extended periods and they print just
fine. Years ago, I did have a problem with an HP720C. If it wasn't used at
least every few days the print cartridges clogged pretty bad. After buying
several replacement cartridges, I gave up on that one and went with a
Lexmark 5700 which never clogged. It just had such short cartridge life that
it was not economically practical to use. Since 2000 it's been Canon all the
way. No clogging and since I refill, virtually no ink costs.

Ron
 
Many thanks to you both

It's just that I was caught with the 'Woe of Epson' and got so use to
doing a daily print.

Now I can relax, hope to have the ip5000 shortly.

"I'm so fearful..... I have to put a lock and key on the dustbin lid -
to stop the Epson from creeping out and coming back"....Lol....

Davy
 
If not used for a period of time, obviously one should print say a
small picture or a small test pattern using all the printers
colour's to prevent clogging.

How often should this be, every 2 or 3 days say, could it be a touch
longer?
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I've never had a clog with Canon. When I replaced my i850 with the IP5000 I
was going to keep the i850 for a back up. As this 'back up' would probably
end up never being used I emailed canon asking the best way to store it.
They replied saying that if the printer was not going to be used for a long
period they recommended printing a test pattern once every two weeks.

Having said that, on occasions I haven't printer anything for more than two
weeks and have never had a clog.
 
Patrick
Things ARE certainly looking up, the Epson I had just loved to clog,
my guess it would get used every 2 or 3 day's.

So looks like we've cured the 'Curse of Epson', thanks for info.

Davy
 
Davy said:
Inkjets if not used will 'clog up'.

If not used for a period of time, obviously one should print say a
small picture or a small test pattern using all the printers
colour's to prevent clogging.

How often should this be, every 2 or 3 days say, could it be a touch
longer?

Not easy to say I know, and can well understand different makes,
different models even will have their own 'quirks'.

I 'tossed' the C62 an planning on getting the pixma 5000 and want want
to avoid the 'Epson Syndrome' which I doubt I will catch with a
Canon.

Davy
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Then welcome to the Canon Syndrome which will give you a whole new set of
problems.
 
Shooterwrote:
Then welcome to the Canon Syndrome which will give you a whole new set of
problems.

Davy say's,
Since you love to quote maybe you would like to come out with some
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facts or is this just a LOOSE CANON.
 
Ron said:
I haven't experienced problems with clogging on any of my Canon
inkjets. Some of them have been left unused for extended periods and
they print just fine. Years ago, I did have a problem with an HP720C.
If it wasn't used at least every few days the print cartridges
clogged pretty bad. After buying several replacement cartridges, I
gave up on that one and went with a Lexmark 5700 which never clogged.
It just had such short cartridge life that it was not economically
practical to use. Since 2000 it's been Canon all the way. No clogging
and since I refill, virtually no ink costs.
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How many canon's did you replace? I'm asking because i did refill my old
i550 and head died after 18 months - not clogged, but inks begin to mix...
Now i have ip4000 and i'm hesitating about refilling again...currently i
bought Pelikan carts, which are half price of canon's but still...
in my country there's only one real ink supplier (well, i could buy cheeeeap
ones in a supermarket, but i never did), ink seems good, and also in a
period of 18 months printer printed perfectly, but i'm still hesitating...
 
Sleeper - for more information about Canon printers, head maintenance, and
inks, go to the following link -
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/ and also follow the link to Neil Slade's
site. Lots of great information regarding maintenance, prevention of head
clogs, and a great deal of shared knowledge about various inks in the
marketplace.
 
In all fairness, every printer mfgr and each of their models has inherent
weaknesses and strengths. for the best information on Canon
printers/inks/papers - go to http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/ and also
follow the link on that site to Neil Slade's site and read all of his
sections. We only have one totally loose canon on this site and he will
undoubtedly follow this post with name calling and his usual misinformation.
Best to disregard him and not bother to respond, except to correct his
biased, defamatory posts.
 
SleeperMan said:
Ron Cohen wrote:



How many canon's did you replace? I'm asking because i did refill my old
i550 and head died after 18 months - not clogged, but inks begin to mix...
Now i have ip4000 and i'm hesitating about refilling again...currently i
bought Pelikan carts, which are half price of canon's but still...
in my country there's only one real ink supplier (well, i could buy cheeeeap
ones in a supermarket, but i never did), ink seems good, and also in a
period of 18 months printer printed perfectly, but i'm still hesitating...
Click to expand...

You said it - "supplier" not a manufacturer/formulator selling you
unnammed UNBRANDED ink. You do not know what you are getting nor is
there consistency even if they told you.
 
Davy said:
facts or is this just a LOOSE CANON.
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LOOSE CANON maybe correct but consider that Epson buyers are not in the main
after making a purchase, going admit their purchase is a load of crap. The
same goes for Canon, Lexmark, and if you like Brother. The posters in a
group like this are here because they have a problem and if that problem is
not sorted then they are inclined to knock their manufacturer, that's human
nature.

I for one have had the guts to challenge the manufacturer of my printer in
court but have never questioned if mine is better or worse than any other
manufacturer. In a group like this you will get lots of opinion about makes
but is that really what you want, bearing in mind that opinion is opinion
and nothing more. You only have to look at what suggestions are made about
waste pads, I think paper towel and plastic sheet were mentioned, having
said that it's their opinion and that's fine if that's what they think.

When I purchased my printer I made a list of what I wanted it to do, that
was a long long list and far to long for this posting. I then read with care
every test I could find and balanced that against what the manufactures
said, even so I ended up with a printer that was flawed in design. In the
end you will never win, yes some points will score + and some after you have
had the printer sometime will score a - So LOOSE CANON maybe or perhaps.

I seemed to recall that you purchased a low end printer to use as a high
output unit and it failed so perhaps you are also a loose canon :-)
 
Shooterwrote:
I seemed to recall that you purchased a low end printer to use as a high
output unit and it failed so perhaps you are also a loose canon :-)
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Davy say's
Yes it was a low end printer, and no it was'nt subject to heavy work
load, and no I did not want nor expect top quality prints from it.

But if people make comments don't you think they should give facts.

Then welcome to the Canon Syndrome which will
give you a whole new set of
problems. you like to quote but where are the
FACTS, maybe you will now say what problems are to be expected from
the Canons.

I am not interested what you did or did'nt do in court nor what you
had for breakfast but you only quoted what I had said with half a
sentance that you added which carried very little detail.

I am very sure if you knew, than you would have come out with the
facts, instead of half a sentance.

NOW THAT IS A LOOSE CANON

Davy
 
Ron Cohen said:
Years ago, I did have a problem with an HP720C. If it wasn't used at least
every few days the print cartridges clogged pretty bad. After buying several
replacement cartridges, I gave up on that one
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If you had a clogging problem in a few days it was probably due to a failure of
the printer to properly cap. Your printer probably needed service, this is
certainly not the normal behavior. Typically a DeskJet 720 would be able to
sit for months and start up with out clogging.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
 
Bob said:
If you had a clogging problem in a few days it was probably due to a failure of
the printer to properly cap. Your printer probably needed service, this is
certainly not the normal behavior. Typically a DeskJet 720 would be able to
sit for months and start up with out clogging.
Click to expand...

My 990 can. I am curious as to what HP considers the current successor
to the HP990Cse?
 
SleeperMan said:
How many canon's did you replace? I'm asking because i did refill my old
i550 and head died after 18 months - not clogged, but inks begin to mix...
Now i have ip4000 and i'm hesitating about refilling again...currently i
bought Pelikan carts, which are half price of canon's but still...
in my country there's only one real ink supplier (well, i could buy
cheeeeap ones in a supermarket, but i never did), ink seems good, and also
in a period of 18 months printer printed perfectly, but i'm still
hesitating...
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I haven't replaced any up to this point. I've given the s820's and i950 to
both of my daughters. The s820's don't get the usage they formerly had, but
they are still running ok and the i950 still does a lot of photos. My iP4000
does most of the work now. I still have an old BJC-3000 that I'm tempted to
fire up again just to see if it's still alive. I've also got a new iP1500
that came as a freebie with a computer purchase a few weeks ago. If I can
ever get my office cleaned up and a little room for another printer, I'll
see what it can do. As to the 18 month longevity of the print head, there
have been several threads in the past discussing the limited lifespan of
Canon print heads. The discussions centered around the fact that it didn't
seem to matter how much printing or what ink was used (OEM or 3rd party),
they all seemed to fail after a certain period of time. Check out a thread
on www.nifty-stuff.com It describes what you are referring to and the cause.
The OP even went so far as to disassemble a print head and (I think)
reassembled it and it worked ok.

Ron
 
Bob Headrick said:
If you had a clogging problem in a few days it was probably due to a
failure of the printer to properly cap. Your printer probably needed
service, this is certainly not the normal behavior. Typically a DeskJet
720 would be able to sit for months and start up with out clogging.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, not speaking for my employer HP
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I still have the 720c on a shelf. Is the failure to cap a difficult or
costly repair? If it could be fixed (cheap), I'd be willing to donate it to
a charity or non-profit org. I sure don't need it sitting around here taking
up space.

Ron
 
Bob Headrick
A good point Bob. I have the complete 'Technical Service Manual' along
with the reset codes etc etc, showing the Electronic Circuit diagram
down to the last nut and bolt, how to dis-semble and re semble. (TV
electronics my trade), but not the case here.

As stated previuosly that one common fault with the C series (and CX
series according to Art) - is the waste pump pipe comes off the
'cleaning dock', causing ink build up, drying and then in turn causes
head clogging, the only way to refix is stripping the assembley down -
NO DOUBT sending many a 'USEFUL' printer to trash.

Not repeating for the umpteenth time. I will just say I cleaned the
head's with the whole lot out, this made no difference at all. But
knwing this was the final attempt I stripped the bracket from around
the head and that their were clumps of dried ink under the bracket
JUST ON ONE EDGE, the three remaining sides were intact, you could
actually see where the ink was, not running, not dripping, but more
like a weep, this was certainly abnormal, the ink if any should have
been on the heads.

Now then I can ONLY ASSUME the first printer was the same because it
had exactly the same fault in the same amount of time and all
starting with
more and more nozzle cleans.

Epson says in letter 'air bubbles will damage head', Epson say's on
phone never ever to nozzle clean more than 6 times in one go, this
will damage the heads - ANY MENTION OF THIS IN THE USER MANUAL? I
can only take their word for this, now can't I.

But we'll deviate from Bob's comment a little
here When it goes through a cleaning routine to
waste so precious ink, you get ALL the ink squirting in the inkwell,
obviously the ink 'mixed' is gonna make a pretty colour as well as
being nice and thick.

Next stage of events is, suppose the ink level builds up enough to the
brim of the inkwell or to 'ink the heads', the darn mixture will get
on the heads, the heads wipe against the rubber cleaning blades and
pushes all the crap further in the nozzles - this is something that
keeps comming back to me, true or not I dunno - but well worth
thinking about.

When I saw what was happening I put it where it best belong - in the
trash

I will leave the HP comment's to other folks.

Davy
 
Fine, you go and do your own research and don't expect others to give you a
short cut. As it happens I don't think I mentioned what I hove for
breakfast, As I said, Welcome to the Canon syndrome, it don't take a
Einstein to work it out. My reply gave you the exact amount of detail that
I wished to share with you without giving you hearsay, you know Joe said
this, Fred said that, and left out any variables as to why this happened to
them like did they cause the problem, was the item faulty when purchased,
90% of the problems in this group are self inflicted. so really you are back
to doing your own in depth research and the only reason I mentioned the
courts is because even when researched well a poor choice in printer can
still be made, but that seems to deep for your understanding. However lets
hope you are able to make the right choice this time but I have doubts, I
think you will be back in this group within a short time of purchase, that's
the nature of the beast, and in that I refer to printers and not you.
 
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