DVD CHANGER ???

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Then why are gun manufacturers being sued for the unlawful use of
firearms by criminals?
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I'm sorry, but it boggles the mind to think that you'd somehow equate
"gun manufacturers being sued for the unlawful use of firearms by
criminals" with someone relating their experiences with an online
retailer.
 
The list price of the ST-150 probably scares many off, but I found
a place that sold it for $419 - shipping included. Their sites
says they will ship within 48 hours. I checked and my order was
picked up by UPS about 4 hours after I placed it, and got to me
2 days early. So good price and fast service is hard to find.

If you [or anyone else] wants the name of the place you can send me
email - as I don't like to post commercial things on Usenet -
having that inbred into my motions here since I got on the 'net
in about 1984. [My address has been 'real' since I got on the 'net
and with proper filters spams is not a problme. [Unix systems and
my own mail server]
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About the only time it's unacceptable to post a commercial reference
is when someone is hawking their own site. If you've found a place
that offers quality goods, at a fair price, and treats the customer
well, I don't know why you'd hesitate to share that info. Big thumbs
down to the group of folks who "trained" you back in 1984. :)
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In those days much transport was on Arpa net and since a lot was
government funded - I remember a lot of posts going through
'seismo' - there was to be NO commercial annoucment or appearances
thereof.
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Yes, but that was 20-odd years ago. Times have changed.
And since anything on the 'net lives forever - I can find posts of
mine from the late 1980's - nothing is more frustrating than
an http link on information that no longer exists. I'd just as
soon have real information.
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I don't think it's frustrating at all. I think most people realize
that information doesn't always age gracefully, and if someone runs
across a recommendation that is several years old that ends up hurting
them, they have no one to blame but themselves. All most people ask,
when it comes to user experiences being posted, is that the
information is accurate as of the time that it was posted.
And though a vendor may be good today, there is no indication they
will be a year from now - and I'd hate to have people browing old
posts and getting ripped off if the vendor had changed - and blame
me for that.
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I don't know why you'd allow yourself to feel responsible for year-old
posts when it comes to vendor recommendations. That's like a news
reporter feeling bad after writing something favorable about a person
who, a year later, happens to murder someone. If your recommendation
was accurate at the time that you made it, then it doesn't matter, and
it doesn't reflect on you one way or the other, if that vendor later
becomes less favorable.
I often get mail from things I've posted years ago.
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That's your choice. Many people choose not to make themselves
available via email when posting to Usenet.
And no one 'trained' me. It was reading the Netiquette, reading
the dos/don'ts and learning how to program serial ports to talk
with modems and then setting up UUCP for connection to other sites
via telephone. My old site in 1986/7 was usually in the top-500
of usenet transport sites. All on two high-speed modems [ getting
about 19K throughput before the rest of the world had 9600 working
properly] and keeping both phone lines running almost coninually.
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By "train", I was referring to this comment: "I don't like to post
commercial things on Usenet - having that inbred into my motions here
since I got on the 'net in about 1984"

I accept and respect your position, but I obviously don't agree with
it. I'm ok with that and hope you are, too.

Anyway, my apologies to the OP for hijacking the thread. :)
 
I'm sorry, but it boggles the mind to think that you'd somehow equate
"gun manufacturers being sued for the unlawful use of firearms by
criminals" with someone relating their experiences with an online
retailer.
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It boggles the mind to think that you would make such a grand sweeping
statement as the one above which includes gun manufacturers.

If you wanted to qualify the statement, then why didn't you?


--

"What the American people have seen is this incredible
disparity in which those people who had cars and money
got out and those people who were impoverished drowned."
-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina

"Ditto"
-- Mary Jo Kopechne
 
"Bob" wrote ...
Richard Crowley said:
Then why are gun manufacturers being sued for the unlawful
use of firearms by criminals?
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Because we have WAY too many ambulance-chasing
"lawyers" out there who received their "education" from
a generation of tenured wasted hippies. And a generation
of socialist law-makers who have sneaked into the
judiciary branch of government.
 
Because we have WAY too many ambulance-chasing
"lawyers" out there who received their "education" from
a generation of tenured wasted hippies. And a generation
of socialist law-makers who have sneaked into the
judiciary branch of government.
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Then it's time for either secession or tyrannicide - or both.

Texas is ready.


--

"What the American people have seen is this incredible
disparity in which those people who had cars and money
got out and those people who were impoverished drowned."
-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina

"Ditto"
-- Mary Jo Kopechne
 
Justin is totally obtuse in reasoning....as usual.
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Some posts require removing all previous information...as is almost the case
here.
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Not true at all. Your post remains unconvincing because you quoted no
evidence to show that Justin usually engages in obtuse reasoning (to
those of us who are unfamiliar with his posts and don't know what's
"as usual").
 
It boggles the mind to think that you would make such a grand sweeping
statement as the one above which includes gun manufacturers.

If you wanted to qualify the statement, then why didn't you?
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Because it wasn't my statement.
 
In rec.video.dvd.tech on Sun, 23 Oct 2005, Bob wrote :
Then why are gun manufacturers being sued for the unlawful use of
firearms by criminals?
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Opportunistic leftist lawyers?
 
I knew it... :)
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Indeed. That's because you know that the time has come.


--

"What the American people have seen is this incredible
disparity in which those people who had cars and money
got out and those people who were impoverished drowned."
-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina

"Ditto"
-- Mary Jo Kopechne
 
Opportunistic leftist lawyers?
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The judiciary is as corrupt as they are by letting them get by with
it.


--

"What the American people have seen is this incredible
disparity in which those people who had cars and money
got out and those people who were impoverished drowned."
-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina

"Ditto"
-- Mary Jo Kopechne
 
"What the American people have seen is this incredible
disparity in which those people who had cars and money
got out and those people who were impoverished drowned."
-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina
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And no Senator in the history of the USA knows about cars
and money vs. drowning better than Ted Kennedy.
 
And no Senator in the history of the USA knows about cars
and money vs. drowning better than Ted Kennedy.
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Does anyone else agree that this thread has gone just a bit off topic
of the original posted question?
Wow!! What does all this have to do with a DVD changer?
 
Wow!! What does all this have to do with a DVD changer?
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The same thing your comment has to do with a DVD changer.


--

"What the American people have seen is this incredible
disparity in which those people who had cars and money
got out and those people who were impoverished drowned."
-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina

"Ditto"
-- Mary Jo Kopechne
 
And no Senator in the history of the USA knows about cars
and money vs. drowning better than Ted Kennedy.
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it's hilarious to read the rants of the ultra rich and privileged
about concerns for the poor. hypocritical beyond belief.
 
howldog wrote on [Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:46:33 -0400]:
it's hilarious to read the rants of the ultra rich and privileged
about concerns for the poor. hypocritical beyond belief.
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Since it's almost exclusively the rich and ultra rich in control, what
do you want? Them to ignore the working class and poor altoegther?
 
howldog wrote on [Wed, 26 Oct 2005 11:46:33 -0400]:
it's hilarious to read the rants of the ultra rich and privileged
about concerns for the poor. hypocritical beyond belief.
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Since it's almost exclusively the rich and ultra rich in control, what
do you want?
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for them to shut the hell up

fat chance of that happening
 
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 21:05:01 GMT, (e-mail address removed) (Bill Vermillion) wrote:

The list price of the ST-150 probably scares many off, but I found
a place that sold it for $419 - shipping included. Their sites
says they will ship within 48 hours. I checked and my order was
picked up by UPS about 4 hours after I placed it, and got to me
2 days early. So good price and fast service is hard to find.

If you [or anyone else] wants the name of the place you can send me
email - as I don't like to post commercial things on Usenet -
having that inbred into my motions here since I got on the 'net
in about 1984. [My address has been 'real' since I got on the 'net
and with proper filters spams is not a problme. [Unix systems and
my own mail server]
About the only time it's unacceptable to post a commercial reference
is when someone is hawking their own site. If you've found a place
that offers quality goods, at a fair price, and treats the customer
well, I don't know why you'd hesitate to share that info. Big thumbs
down to the group of folks who "trained" you back in 1984. :)
Click to expand...
In those days much transport was on Arpa net and since a lot was
government funded - I remember a lot of posts going through
'seismo' - there was to be NO commercial annoucment or appearances
thereof.
Click to expand...
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Yes, but that was 20-odd years ago. Times have changed.
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I don't think it's frustrating at all. I think most people realize
that information doesn't always age gracefully, and if someone runs
across a recommendation that is several years old that ends up hurting
them, they have no one to blame but themselves. All most people ask,
when it comes to user experiences being posted, is that the
information is accurate as of the time that it was posted.
Click to expand...
I don't know why you'd allow yourself to feel responsible for year-old
posts when it comes to vendor recommendations. That's like a news
reporter feeling bad after writing something favorable about a person
who, a year later, happens to murder someone. If your recommendation
was accurate at the time that you made it, then it doesn't matter, and
it doesn't reflect on you one way or the other, if that vendor later
becomes less favorable.
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It's because I've written many things about audio over the years.
One lengthy post in an audio group had a query about printing it,
and I re-wrote and edited it and it became one of the featured
articles. That has been spread around over the years and I'll
still get technical quuestions about it. And I have a series of
articles I wrote for a friends site who requested I write a series.

If it had been about anything except a field I made my living in
for years I might feel differently. I'll stand by my comments on
the product - but since my experience with that vendor is limited
I stand by my comments. On other vendors I've worked with in my
previous field I'd have had no problems recommending vendors
even when things go over the $100K limit.

Since I'm still repsonsible - and support to some extent - some of
the things I've written 15 years ago - I only recommend in print
things/people I'm sure of. And I disagree with the analogy of a
reporter because they don't have involvement, but write about their
observations of others.
That's your choice. Many people choose not to make themselves
available via email when posting to Usenet.
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If I had done that there'd be people around the world that I would
have never had chance to becomes friends with - even just
electronically.
And no one 'trained' me. It was reading the Netiquette, reading
the dos/don'ts and learning how to program serial ports to talk
with modems and then setting up UUCP for connection to other sites
via telephone. My old site in 1986/7 was usually in the top-500
of usenet transport sites. All on two high-speed modems [ getting
about 19K throughput before the rest of the world had 9600 working
properly] and keeping both phone lines running almost coninually.
Click to expand...
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By "train", I was referring to this comment: "I don't like to post
commercial things on Usenet - having that inbred into my motions here
since I got on the 'net in about 1984"
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I accept and respect your position, but I obviously don't agree with
it. I'm ok with that and hope you are, too.
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No problem. If things on the 'net bothered me I'd not be here
after 20 years. I started in computer communications by setting up
a bulletin board 4 years before IBM brought out the PC.
Anyway, my apologies to the OP for hijacking the thread. :)
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That's the spirit of the 'net. Hi-jack the thread but don't change
the subject line.

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