DVD CHANGER ???

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Justin said:
Because not everyone receives every post in order, or at all. There may
not BE a rest of the crap.
Bullshit. UUCP is long gone.
If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough
text of the original to give a context. This will make sure readers
understand when they start to read your response. Since NetNews,
especially, is proliferated by distributing the postings from one host
to another, it is possible to see a response to a message before seeing
the original.
Bullshit. Almost never happens.
Top-posting makes posts incomprehensible. Firstly: In normal
conversations, one does not answer to something that has not yet been
said. So it is unclear to reply to the top, whilst the original message

Bullshit. Ever seen a blog, change log, etc.
is at the bottom. Secondly: In western society a book is normally read
from top to bottom. Top-posting forces one to stray from this
convention: Reading some at the top, skipping to the bottom to read the
question, and going back to the top to continue. This annoyance
increases even more than linear with the number of top-posts in the
message. If someone replies to a thread and you forgot what the thread
was all about, or that thread was incomplete for some reasons, it will
be quite tiresome to rapidly understand what the thread was all about,
due to bad posting and irrelevant text which has not been removed.

More bullshit.
 
Eric Gisin wrote on [Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:03:54 -0700]:
Bullshit. UUCP is long gone.

Oh, yes. Someone who doesn't know the difference between their arse and
a hole in the ground. It still happens often enough.
Bullshit. Almost never happens.

Bullshit, happens all the time.
Bullshit. Ever seen a blog, change log, etc.

You mean a blog where all the responses come AFTER the initial posts and
whatever responses they are replying to?
More bullshit.

You read from bottom to top, do you?
 
Justin is totally obtuse in reasoning....as usual.

Some posts require top-posting. I for one have a brain that does not want
the message over and over again.
Some posts require bottom-posting, particularly if the previous information
is short.
Some posts require removing all previous information...as is almost the case
here.

Any hard and fast rules are evidence of the stupidity of those that adhere
to them.
 
Why must there always be a point to everything?

For example the point to our exsitence is unclear. Are we here to
serve as food for alien beings or are we here to show the universe
that shit happens?

Definitely that SHIT HAPPENS!!!!!!!
 
If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you
summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough
text of the original to give a context. This will make sure readers
understand when they start to read your response.

That is the main reason for not top posting.

If I have not been following the thread carefully, I will not know
what the top-posted response is referring to. Even if I read the
entire post below the reply, I still will not know what the reply is
referring to.

The correct way is to snip out all the old material from the original
post leaving enough to establish context, and then post your replies
in the correct places so the reader can follow what you are saying.
 
Alpha wrote on [Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:47:37 -0700]:
In my view, you did it right.

And since you have quoted nothing and added no context whatsoever to
your post, you have made a post that has NO VALUE AT ALL.
 
Camper wrote on [Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:07:38 GMT]:
Well put. Now where should I post? No sense in asking Justin.

At the bottom, unless you are not replying to the message you are
responding to, then you start a whole new thread.
 
Justin said:
Eric Gisin wrote on [Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:03:54 -0700]:
Bullshit. UUCP is long gone.

Oh, yes. Someone who doesn't know the difference between their arse and
a hole in the ground. It still happens often enough.
Take your meds, and the delusions go away.
Bullshit, happens all the time.
****ing clueless. Change ISPs if it does.
You mean a blog where all the responses come AFTER the initial posts and
whatever responses they are replying to?

****ing clueless. Stop doing crack.
You read from bottom to top, do you?
I only read the reply. Only a ****ing moron reads the quoted text.
 
Smarty said:
Justin,

These disks would definitely be a problem for the changers on the market
since none of them do double sided playing automatically. I've also found
that manually finding and flipping a single disk in the carousel is a big
pain, more so on the Sony than on the Pioneer. The 300 disk Pioneer 727
has reasonable spacing from disk to disk, whereas the Sony changers
squeeze 400 DVDs into the carousel in an extremely tight fit.

You could always rip both sides and remaster those disks to a single sided
double layer disk at lower bitrate. Not a great solution, but one which
would overcome the need to flip the disk. I had to do this with one of my
favorite movies (Robert DiNiro's Goodfellows) and a few other DVDs which
split the movie from front to back of the DVD.

Smarty

Why not just author a copy of the other side, and put
that in the next slot of your carousel?

Luck;
Ken
 
Eric Gisin wrote on [Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:46:49 -0700]:
****ing clueless. Change ISPs if it does.

Sure, yes. Because there's always more than one broadband company available.
****ing clueless. Stop doing crack.

Yes, because that is the only reason anyone would respond to one of your
contentless posts.
I only read the reply. Only a ****ing moron reads the quoted text.

Or someone who hasn't yet received the post you are quoting.

Take your head out of your arse, realise that not everyone is a special
as you and cheer up.
 
Ken,

That is exactly what I do Ken. I actually offered that option in a
subsequent reply, describing how I took DVDs like Goodfellow (Robert DiNiro)
and others which span 2 sides and reauthor them to 2 disks.

I'm old enough to remember the Garrard turntable which had a robotic arm
which would flip vinyl LP albums years ago. What a monstrosity. I'm glad
this is NOT being done for DVDs.

Smarty
 
Smarty wrote on [Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:48:49 -0400]:
Ken,

That is exactly what I do Ken. I actually offered that option in a
subsequent reply, describing how I took DVDs like Goodfellow (Robert DiNiro)
and others which span 2 sides and reauthor them to 2 disks.

I'm old enough to remember the Garrard turntable which had a robotic arm
which would flip vinyl LP albums years ago. What a monstrosity. I'm glad
this is NOT being done for DVDs.

Does it need to be though? I know there were laserdisc players that
would flip the laser to the other side of the disc, instead of flipping
the disc. Or some similar method where it was the laser that moved or
changed and not the disc.
 
Smarty said:
Ken,

That is exactly what I do Ken. I actually offered that option in a
subsequent reply, describing how I took DVDs like Goodfellow (Robert
DiNiro) and others which span 2 sides and reauthor them to 2 disks.

I'm old enough to remember the Garrard turntable which had a robotic arm
which would flip vinyl LP albums years ago. What a monstrosity. I'm glad
this is NOT being done for DVDs.

Smarty
well yes because LP's had that physical connection with the needle to make
but we've come a long way with electronics
since those days, a laser on either side and a switching circuit would be
all that is needed now but it would add to cost of manufacturing.

They even had lasers that can detect the physical grooves in old LP albums
nowaday and convert the optical data into digital info that is then
converted to music, so it can play old records without a needle or contact,
and correct for scratches and avoid hiss etc..
But these new record players are about $10,000 I believe.
Amazing what lasers can do. Right?

AnthonyR.
 
Bob said:
That is the main reason for not top posting.

If I have not been following the thread carefully, I will not know
what the top-posted response is referring to. Even if I read the
entire post below the reply, I still will not know what the reply is
referring to.

The correct way is to snip out all the old material from the original
post leaving enough to establish context, and then post your replies
in the correct places so the reader can follow what you are saying.

Also, because this entire posting etiquete exchange is off-topic a new
thread should have been started, no?

So the rest of us don't have to read 5-10 posts before realizing there is no
longer info about dvd changers.

Maybe one day soon a computer software program built into the newsgroup
engine can automatically sort out text in
post and re-format them properly, remove quotes past 3 replies and also
start new threads when no relative text is detected?
LOL Until then we are bound to see this stuff erupt often. By the way, I am
nuetral and can read and figure out both styles with no problem.
It's not that hard, and if I don't understand a post, big deal, their loss
that I didn't get their point, and I move on.


:)
AnthonyR.
 
You're right, Justin. I think the design options would be to put dual lasers
on both sides of the stationary DVD, rotate the disk with a robotic
mechanism, or, as you say, rotate the laser to the other side of the
stationary disk. If I were the designer, I would personally use the dual
laser approach, since the notion of adding an additional moving mechanism to
the already complex 400 DVD changer would be less reliable than a stationary
dual pickup.


Justin said:
Smarty wrote on [Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:48:49 -0400]:
Ken,

That is exactly what I do Ken. I actually offered that option in a
subsequent reply, describing how I took DVDs like Goodfellow (Robert
DiNiro)
and others which span 2 sides and reauthor them to 2 disks.

I'm old enough to remember the Garrard turntable which had a robotic arm
which would flip vinyl LP albums years ago. What a monstrosity. I'm glad
this is NOT being done for DVDs.

Does it need to be though? I know there were laserdisc players that
would flip the laser to the other side of the disc, instead of flipping
the disc. Or some similar method where it was the laser that moved or
changed and not the disc.
 
AnthonyR,

As a rabid audiophile, I would have loved an optical pickup for vinyl LPs. I
fussed with anti-static solutions, dust brushes, ionic units to discharge
the vinyl, etc. and never got truly noise free disks. Moreover, the mass
versus compliance of a mechanical stylus inevitably leads to one or more
natural resonances which make the stylus very non-linear. Distortion and
frequency response dips were inevitable. And a really good Ortofon moving
coil cartridge was several hundred dollars in the early 1960's !!
Yikes.....what were we thinking then ??!!

Smarty
 
AnthonyR ([email protected]) wrote in alt.video.dvd:
well yes because LP's had that physical connection with the needle to make
but we've come a long way with electronics
since those days, a laser on either side and a switching circuit would be
all that is needed now but it would add to cost of manufacturing.

Sony made one "jukebox" changer where the laser was in the center of the
carousel. It would play either side of the disc depending on which side
the disc loaded from, and only needed one laser.
 
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