Da Vote: Move the Pricelessware site

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The domain Pricelssware.org is paid for, for the next 18 months.

Having had to change MY web address last November, I am more cognizant
than many of the difficulties involved re updating the entire web
to the new address.
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That gets to the heart of it. If Pricelessware is to remain where it
is, can Susan continue to do things the way she wants to?

Realistically, to my mind, Pricelessware depends on a committed and
able administrator, like Susan, much more than it does on a particular
site or even domain.

So far as I can see, there are no replacements for Susan making
themselves known. Even if one appeared, Susan's tried and tested. We
know we've got about as good as we can get.
 
Susan Bugher said:
It was hard to *find* the votes in the 200* posts in "Irreconcilable
Differences" thread.

Any additions/corrections?

Susan
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My vote goes with Susan moving the site if that is her wish as webmaster.
She has done an excellent job both on the Pricelessware site and the
newsgroup. I ALSO admire Genna and SOS for all their past work and am
saddened by the recent friction but , in my view, the person who now does
all the work on the site, voting process etc. should be supported for that
selfless effort.
 
ms said:
Susan, thanks for all the past work you did for the existing site. My
vote is to do what is best for you, as you are the one doing the work.
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I fully agree with that.
 
You can use my program (MACCC - see link below to do this). Here's how:
Copy the MP3s you are going to burn to Audio-CD into a new directory.
Burn your CD with your burning program. Run MACCC and point it to the
directory you created wit hthe MP3s. Use MACCC to format the output the
way you want (it wil lread the tags). Output the label in a number of
different formats. Print the case with either CDInsert or CDRLabel.
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MACCC was written for MP3 CDs (data CDs with MP3s on it), but it will
work for Audio CDs if done the way I explained above.
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Brian
Got MP3 CDs? Make nice jewel case CD Inserts with
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Thanks for the input Brian! Your program works very well - thanks for that.
It provides a text file for import to my labeler that works. I have only
started to play around with it but probably is the best solution for my
problem. Anyone else with a similar problem trying to make CD case cards
should take a look.

I would prefer a little difference in text file layout (personal opinion)
that would not require text file editing prior to making the labels *but* it
works! I made a few suggestions in your forum for additions that I think
would add desirable flexibility so won't repeat them here. CDRLabel only
outputs to full size CD case covers (at least in the freeware version I
have) so I can't use that. I find the CDInsert site very restrictive and
much prefer to use my own labeler.

Thanks again,
Ray
 
REM said:
He may not have stated flat out, but I'm pretty sure John Fitzsimons
was leaning to stay at the present site.
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LOL....yes, the subtlety was deafening.
 
Susan Bugher said:
This is my unresignation. Apologies for the previous over-reaction.

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others. TIA


It was hard to *find* the votes in the 200* posts in "Irreconcilable
Differences" thread.

Any additions/corrections?

Susan
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I'm sorry Susan, but this is really really starting to get lame now.

whatever choice you make i'm more than sure that acf regulars will support
you in whatever youd do.

good luck.


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My vote goes with Susan moving the site if that is her wish as webmaster.
She has done an excellent job both on the Pricelessware site and the
newsgroup. I ALSO admire Genna and SOS for all their past work and am
saddened by the recent friction but , in my view, the person who now does
all the work on the site, voting process etc. should be supported for that
selfless effort.
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My feelings exactly.

Colin
 
Susan Bugher said:
This is my unresignation. Apologies for the previous over-reaction.

Please mark your scorn and abuse responses [OT] out of consideration for
others. TIA
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Susan, if in order for you to continue, then I vote to movce the site.
If you can stay at pricelessware.org then it would be great as that is
a perfect name and easy to remember.

I support you 100%, I also appreciate the comtrubtions of Gena,
but maybe it's time to move on.

Bobby
 
Son Of Spy wrote on 26-6-2004 :
Welcome back, Susan. And apologies accepted :-).
The domain Pricelssware.org is paid for, for the next 18 months.

Having had to change MY web address last November, I am more cognizant
than many of the difficulties involved re updating the entire web
to the new address.
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The money that already has been paid for the domain is just one issue.
There are more:

Who will be responsible for the contents of the new site? As far as I
know now the contents of the site is copyrighted by ACF. How will this
be arranged in the future?

Who will have access to the (new) site? Depending this only on 1 (one)
webmaster seems to dangerous to me. There must be at least two members
of ACF have access to the (new) site. Having said this, who will have
the over-all responsibilty of this site?

How will Genna and/or SOS be refunded for the money they already paid
for the PL-site? They paid the money voluntarily for this site and I
think it would be fair when they are refunded for the time we don't use
that PL-domain anymore.

Moving the site to a place of Susan's choice, would that also give us
the gurarantee that Susan will manage this site for, let's say, the
next five years?

Who will pay for the new site?

Besides this, is there really no other way possible that we stay at the
current domain, use the domain that is already paid for, a domain that
is already known by a lot of (not only freeware-) folks all over the
world? I think there is. There must be ways possible that we can sort
out responsibilities regarding the owners and webmaster(s) of the
PL-site.

With kind regards,

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The Netherlands
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*ProteanThread* said:
I'm sorry Susan, but this is really really starting to get lame now.
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No shit. I vote that Susan buy the webspace and put up her own site
anywhere she wants and call it anything she wants, *except*
Pricelessware.org . She can set it up and organize it any way she wants,
without interference. She can be the Queen Bee *there* and everybody
else can sing her praises *there*.

This melodramatic, manipulative, control-driven power ploy doesn't
deserve further discussion.
 
Moving the site to a place of Susan's choice, would that also give us
the gurarantee that Susan will manage this site for, let's say, the
next five years?
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Volunteers don't come with a 5-year warranty. Hell, *employees* don't
come with a 5-year warranty. Let's not get totally ridiculous here.
 
Susan said:
It was hard to *find* the votes in the 200* posts in "Irreconcilable
Differences" thread.
Any additions/corrections?
Susan
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My vote: MOVE THE PL SITE
majales
 
This is my unresignation. Apologies for the previous
over-reaction.
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Nice to see you again, welcome back. :)
Please mark your scorn and abuse responses [OT] out of
consideration for others. TIA
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Here are the vote results:

DON'T MOVE THE PL SITE:
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Please put me in the "to stay" list, thanks.



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Any additions/corrections?

Susan
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put the site whereever the person WHO DOES THE DAILY WORK wishes it. As
long as it is a reliable place. (I guess this is a yes vote)
(and I wish there were no need to vote.)
 
Henk de Jong <[email protected]> says in

Henk, I actually feel very sad about the situation. You are
right.
Who will have access to the (new) site? Depending this only
on 1 (one) webmaster seems to dangerous to me. There must
be at least two members of ACF have access to the (new)
site. Having said this, who will have the over-all
responsibilty of this site?
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And, what if the two doesn't get along again? As a site that
have an ideal of serving a group shouldn't just move because
two volunteers doesn't get along. Do we need to go over this
type of vote everytimes?
How will Genna and/or SOS be refunded for the money they
already paid for the PL-site? They paid the money
voluntarily for this site and I think it would be fair when
they are refunded for the time we don't use that PL-domain
anymore.
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I didn't know that they actually had contributed that much.
And they definitely are devoted to pricelessware and want it
to be better, just want to say thanks to them.
Moving the site to a place of Susan's choice, would that
also give us the gurarantee that Susan will manage this
site for, let's say, the next five years?

Who will pay for the new site?
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Well, I guess someone might, but I really LOVE the domain
name, "pricelessware.org". Susan is certainly a very good
webmaster. However, being a webmaster is a big job and takes
up a lot of time (things can happen in personal life, you
know, even to a very PL devoted person). No one can say for
sure one can be webmaster for a definite long time every year,
but I really hope that we can keep the domain name.





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That gets to the heart of it. If Pricelessware is to remain where it
is, can Susan continue to do things the way she wants to?

Realistically, to my mind, Pricelessware depends on a committed and
able administrator, like Susan, much more than it does on a particular
site or even domain.

So far as I can see, there are no replacements for Susan making
themselves known. Even if one appeared, Susan's tried and tested. We
know we've got about as good as we can get.
Click to expand...

I agree,
Let's move,

Allen Tomlinson
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remove (now) from above
 
This is my unresignation. Apologies for the previous over-reaction.

Please mark your scorn and abuse responses [OT] out of consideration for
others. TIA
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I vote stay thank you.
GoodTime Barnie
 
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