cooling computer with refrigerator

[Big Bad Bob]

3) -300C can otherwise be expressed as approx -27K... in other words

_below_ absolute zero.

probably meant -300F (-184C) which perhaps could be cooled by liquid N?

 

[CBFalconer]

Nope. They were running whether the heat was on or not when I was
there. They said the humidity is so low it can cause skin problems.
BTW, what's with the name calling? Insecurity on your part?

It's all in the sig.

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[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Nope.

Yep, even the stupidest canuck doesnt cool in the winter.

They were running whether the heat was on or not when I was
there. They said the humidity is so low it can cause skin problems.

Only happens in their winter, stupid.

BTW, what's with the name calling?

No name calling, just an accurate description.

Insecurity on your part?

Nope, I've always been into accurate descriptions.

 

[HiEv]

That would be a very thermally and electrically inefficient way to cool the
computer. Do a search on computer cooling and you will find all sorts of
effective devices sold.

For example:

Asetek Vapochill LightSpeed [AC] CPU Cooling System
http://www.systemcooling.com/vapochill_ls-01.html

Asetek VapoChill LightSpeed [AC]
http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/cooling/Asetek_VapoChill_LS_1.html

It's basically a small "refrigerator" that connects a tube to the CPU
and cools it directly. It includes various precautions to prevent
condensation.

 

[WindsorFox]

Yeah but will it keep your beer cold? I think NOT!

I'm German

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[WindsorFox]

I'm not so sure that the cold air from an airconditioner has higher
humidity than the surrounding air.
The reason is that the colder air has less energy to maintain the water
as vapour.
Just look at an airconditioner set to cold, there is water dripping out
of the cold side after it has condensed on the coils.
If you wanted to maintain or increase the humidity of the cold air,
you'd have to use a device to add water vapour back into the air.
It's called a humidifier.

So basically he replied to me saying it would be more humid and he
replied to you agreeing it would be less humid, essentially (again)
saying everyone is always wrong and he is always right. How can you
trust someone who doesn't know high end audio equipment??? P


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Pyongyang sounds more like the sound effect an ACME catapult makes
as it goes off at precisely the wrong moment for Wile E. Coyote. -
Cadbury Moose

 

[WindsorFox]

That's when its heating, stupid.

I'm sorry, but if you're saying that you can only humidify air when
you are heating it, you are totally wrong. Maybe I misunderstood your,
um, thought.

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Pyongyang sounds more like the sound effect an ACME catapult makes
as it goes off at precisely the wrong moment for Wile E. Coyote. -
Cadbury Moose

 

[WindsorFox]

Yep, even the stupidest canuck doesnt cool in the winter.


Only happens in their winter, stupid.


No name calling, just an accurate description.


Nope, I've always been into accurate descriptions.

ASshat. No name calling, just an accurate description. And, you
apparently do not know a lot about some terribly dry climates.

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as it goes off at precisely the wrong moment for Wile E. Coyote. -
Cadbury Moose

 

[No One]

It's all in the sig.

Ah, I see now. Thanks.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

ASshat. No name calling, just an accurate description.

Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, child.

And, you apparently do not know a lot about some terribly dry climates.

I live in one thanks.

And Canada doesnt qualify either.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

I'm sorry,
Liar.

but if you're saying that you can only humidify air when you are heating it,

Corse I'm not.

you are totally wrong.

Having fun thrashing that straw man are you child ?

Maybe I misunderstood your, um, thought.

No maybe about it.

 

[GEO Me]

I live in one thanks.

And Canada doesnt qualify either.

I think any comments should be qualified as to where in Canada one
is refering to.

Geo

 

[Rod Speed]

I think any comments should be qualified
as to where in Canada one is refering to.

Nope, no part of Canada where many live qualifies as 'terribly dry'

 

[dj_nme]

Corse I'm not.


Having fun thrashing that straw man are you child ?


No maybe about it.

Ron, I don't understand how you can't grasp the simple concept of cold
air having less energy to be able to hold water vapour.
Unless you are using an evaporative (as opposed to the more usual
compressor type) air-conditoner, the cold air from an air-conditioner
will have less water vapour in it than the hot air it took in.
Unless you are under the mistaken impression that because whe the cold
air in your cold air-conditioned house cools the windows and water
condenses on the outside, it might look like the hot air can't hold as
much water vapour, but the condensed water has come out of the cooled
air next to the windows.
The air-conditioned air that has cooled the rest of your dwelling has
lost most of it's water when it was cooled by the cold side coils of
your air-conditoner, that is the condensed water that the drip pipe
conducts to the outside.

On the other hand, if you are using an evaporative air-conditoner, this
will add water while cooling the air.
They rely on the heat energy in the air to evaporate water and thus
become colder, the problem being if you are located in a high humidity
area and the dew point is the same as the ambient outside temperature
(due to the huge amount of moisture already in the air, ie 100%
humidity), it won't cool the air going through the evaporator.

 

[dj_nme]

So basically he replied to me saying it would be more humid and he
replied to you agreeing it would be less humid, essentially (again)
saying everyone is always wrong and he is always right. How can you
trust someone who doesn't know high end audio equipment??? P

Which "he" are you refering to?
If you had a duct straight from a compressor type air-conditioner
leading straight into the case of your computer, the cold dry air from
it would both cool and dry the inside of your computer and the cold
computer case would have some moisture condensing on the outside of it
from the surrounding (slightly warmer) air in the room.
I have tried this and that is exactly what happens.

 

[kony]

Ron, I don't understand how you can't grasp the simple concept of cold
air having less energy to be able to hold water vapour.

It's not a matter of less energy because of the relative
temp, it's a matter of how that air was cool(er), by passing
over the evaporative coil which causes the relative humidity
in the vicinity of the coils to rise thus condensing out the
water vapor.

 

[Rod Speed]

Rod Speed wrote

Ron, I don't understand how you can't grasp the simple concept of cold air having less
energy to be able to hold water vapour.

gutless, even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp that
when a particular chunk of air is cooled, the humidity will increase until
eventually its 100% humid and will start condensing at the dew point.

Unless you are using an evaporative (as opposed to the more usual
compressor type) air-conditoner, the cold air from an air-conditioner
will have less water vapour in it than the hot air it took in.

Wrong with the HUMIDITY.

Unless you are under the mistaken impression that because whe the cold air in your cold
air-conditioned house cools the windows and water condenses on the outside, it might
look like the hot air can't hold as much water vapour, but the condensed water has come
out of the cooled air next to the windows.

What was being discussed is the HUMIDITY.

The air-conditioned air that has cooled the rest of your dwelling has lost most of it's
water when it was cooled by the cold side coils of your air-conditoner,

Wrong again, its only lost SOME of the water, because
the cold side can be below the dew point of the air.

that is the condensed water that the drip pipe conducts to the outside.
Duh.

On the other hand, if you are using an evaporative air-conditoner,

Nope, that wasnt what was being discussed.

 

[Rod Speed]

It's not a matter of less energy because of the relative temp,
it's a matter of how that air was cool(er), by passing over the
evaporative coil which causes the relative humidity in the vicinity
of the coils to rise thus condensing out the water vapor.

In fact you only get any condensation when
the coil temp is below the dew point of the air.

You get the same effect with a chilled glass
that ends up with condensation on it.

Nothing to do with the energy content of the air,
everything to do with the dew point of the air.

 

[GEO Me]

Nope, no part of Canada where many live qualifies as 'terribly dry'

You definitely don't know what you talk about.

Geo

 

[Rod Speed]

You definitely don't know what you talk about.

Easy to claim, child.

Try listing the populated bits of Canada that are 'terribly dry'