As your example proves, for the average user, third party firewalls and
anti-malware programs cause more problems than they solve.
As your example proves, for the average user, third party firewalls and
anti-malware programs cause more problems than they solve.
You probably have an above average tolerance for nuisance alarms.
I tried ZA once, and was frustrated by all the benign stuff it alarmed on.
Yes, you can tell it to ignore certain apps, but that takes patience
and a learning curve. Most newbies have no clue as to whether they
should approve a specific SVCHOST process or not.
Questor said:ZoneAlarm traps programs (notably web browsers and email clients) by
holding them in the 'system' area which prevents 'user' programs such as
Task Manager and Process Explorer from killing them. In the ZA forum,
there are quite a few posts pertaining to this particular bug. They
appear to be working on it, but haven't come up with a solution yet.
Questor
Questor said:--->
Making a broad statement like that is not really a good idea. I've used
ZA for years from Win98 to XP Pro and haven't had one ripple of problem.
Other third party programs perform just fine on my machines. Once in a
while, a good program throws a clunker and needs to be fine-tuned. That's
all.
Questor
I.C. Greenfields said:If you have unwanted outgoing connections then your system is
already compromised.
It's compromised by WMP for example?
A resident Trojan virus can easily disable
the outgoing portion of the firewall. The primary wall of defense
should be prevention of incoming viruses and malware.
Please recommend software that monitors connections both ways that works
with Vista.
Ken Blake said:I used to recommend ZA because of its outward protection, I've more
recently become convinced that outward protection is an illusion. Once
one of the nasties gets into your computer, it can essentially do
whatever it wants, including circumventing the firewall. So the extra
protection that a firewall that monitors outbound traffic provides is
more apparent than real.
It blocks programs like WMP and other legitimate programs we don't want
accessing the net to not access it. Some of us want to chose what "gets out"
and what doesn't. And the this info doesn't work since there is nowhere to
make such a change there. No buttons. Nowhere to choose. Configure it -
HOW?
http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/windows-firewall-enable-outbound-filtering/
I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way
firewall.
Inline:
Any outbound connections eminating from WMP are benign (not
malicious). It's the malicious malware you should be cncerned about.
I know they are but don't want anything accessing the bet without
permission. I wan to know what's going on. (Scroll down)
Windows Firewall in Vista can be configured to monitor outbound
connections, should you be so inclined. See
http://www.vistastic.com/2007/03/09/windows-firewall-enable-outbound-filtering
*HOW? There's no choice in the Firewall window that opens. HOW and WERE
is the place you make that change?
It says "* Change Outbound connections from Allow (default) to Block"
but WHERE is the place where the change is made?
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I bet you didn't know that Microsoft Windows Vista includes a two-way
firewall.
Unfortunately, the outbound filtering has been disabled. I'm not quite
sure why Microsoft made this decision but from a security point of view
it would have made perfect sense to have it enabled by default. I
suspect it's due to Microsoft not wanting to frustrate customers when
their internet dependent applications suddenly stopped working.
Windows Vista Firewall: How To Turn On Outbound Filtering
* Click the Start Button (Windows Orb)
* In the search bar type "wf.msc" and press the Enter key
* Click the Windows Firewall Properties link
* Change Outbound connections from Allow (default) to Block
From the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security properties you can
also configure additional rules for incoming as well as outbound
connections.
You don't have a clue.
ZA sucks an egg.
The Windows Firewall is just as good.
Course, you think IE7 can't block ads !
Dipshoot !
What do you think is going out ?
Are you stopping a virus from calling out ?
How did you get the virus ?
Are you that friggen stupid to think you will stop it on the way out ?
LOL.
Or do you think it will keep porn from escaping ?
That's it !
Don't worry, your porn likes you now.
Gary VanderMolen said:You probably have an above average tolerance for nuisance alarms.
I tried ZA once, and was frustrated by all the benign stuff it alarmed on.
Yes, you can tell it to ignore certain apps, but that takes patience
and a learning curve. Most newbies have no clue as to whether they
should approve a specific SVCHOST process or not.
So, you agree with the idiot that IE7 can't block ads ?
He said Can't.
Well, I sure can, and millions of others can.
It is a very old method.
But he jumps on the firedfox bandwagon, just like ever other "put
firedfox buttons on your webpage" puke does.
Its is so devoid of thought process, it makes me wretch.
Hey....I have a Ford....you should too.
Chevies crash into trees and are dangerous !
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ There is your firedfox fanatic.
--->
Your automobile analogy is very apt. You are railing FOR a particular
car and another is railing FOR a different car. It is not a winnable
situation
Each person has to decide what they want on their computers. Once that
decision is made, and they like what they've done, then no amount of
preaching FOR or AGAINST a particular program is going to change their
minds. Decrying profanely every decision made by others while pushing
YOUR favorite program just make yourself look bad.
Put down your poison pen for a minute and try to see the other side of
the gap. SANE arguments FOR or AGAINST any application might just be
met with more than a healthy dose of skepticism.
Questor
MICHAEL said:Sort of like Vista's UAC, huh?