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Frank
He's like friggin clock work isn't he.much said:(e-mail address removed) says...
It appears to be a true story, and ... he's found the caps lock key! So
predictable.
Frank
He's like friggin clock work isn't he.much said:(e-mail address removed) says...
It appears to be a true story, and ... he's found the caps lock key! So
predictable.
THAT IS ZUKOWSKISHITzakezuke said:Well if there is you should have said so. You said, "if it ruins your
printer you did not save anything. This is not true. If my printer
blows up today I saved over $100. If my printerhead fails after 10
replacements that is the expected life of the printer in the first
place.
Mike said:Of course you're basing that solely on your own recollection of
the postings you've seen. Although I rarely speak up about it,
when I provided computer support for many departments at the
University of Illinois, we had terrible problems with third party
ink cartridges and toner cartridges. The dealers were willing
to swap the defective ones, but it wasn't worth out trouble
or excessive printer maintenance.
It seems like every lab had a grad student who insisted that
THEY used third party inks and toner without any problems, and
would order it for the lab, but my group was stuck fixing
the problems.
It doesn't make much sense to post that in this newsgroup because
it seems like the real proponents of third-party supplies are
convinced that their individual experience applies to everybody,
and my experiences with literally hundreds of printers don't
matter.
I also can't say with any certainty that there AREN'T good third
party ink and toner supplies. I never found them.
I do know that
ink chemistry is critical. Even on impact type printers (tele-
typewriters) the wrong ink on the ribbon could really gum things up.
Those machines were a lot more rugged than the modern printers.
It's also been my experience that most people are willing to replace
their hardware more frequently than I am.
Mike said:Well, of course I do. If I want to see "Batman Begins" but "Napoleon
Dynamite" is cheaper, I'll buy Napoleon Dynamite, knowing that I'm
saving money.
No, wait, that would be stupid.
The price and content aren't related.
Likewise, I might be able to shop around and find the one I actually
want slightly cheaper, and it would be wise to buy it there -- but I
know it will be absolutely identical to the more expensive one, with
absolutely no difference at all. It won't be on a cheaper material,
printed on cheaper paper, or stored in a crappy box.
So would assuming that all bread is exactly alike, regardless of the
price.
And I *know* that the ink chemistry differs.
People who shop exclusively for price get cat food instead of tuna.
Frank said:He's like friggin cock work isn't he.
Frank
LIKE THE CHURCH MEMBERS...
Jon said:Hmm. I seem to recognise the 'amusing' name you assigned to me in there.
You've evidently forgotten that I've told you I never use third-party
inks. Still, you never have been one to let facts get in the way of your
opinions, have you?
Just to remind you: My objection to your monomaniacal ravings is due to
/your/ never have used third-party inks, either. So you're claiming
expertise in a subject of which you have no personal experience. Which
makes your opinion worthless.
You can spit your dummy out now.
Jon.
<edit mine>that is zukowski<shinola>
Hmm. I seem to recognise the 'amusing' name you assigned to me in there.
You've evidently forgotten that I've told you I never use third-party
inks.
I HAVE SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR ALL OF THE PEOP[LE WHO HAVE BOUGHT
INKS FROM WHORES WHO HAVE HAD INK CLOGS AND OTHER ISSUES. THEY SAID IT
RIGHT HERE.
They are called passafiers on this side of the pond.
Yes, I find it amusing that i'm in the list as well.
third-party inks, as well as that of people who've had 'clogs and other
issues' with OEM inks.
Your opinion's worthless.
zakezuke said:<edit mine>
No, it isn't. It's one of the reasons I didn't buy a canon at first,
because the head was so spendy and the lifespan was limited. Ask Canon
your self if you don't believe me.
I saved so much thus far that I could buy another printhead or another
printer without loss. This is a fact.
JUST LIKE THERE ARE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQJon said:I HAVE SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR ALL OF THE PEOP[LE WHO HAVE BOUGHT
INKS FROM WHORES WHO HAVE HAD INK CLOGS AND OTHER ISSUES. THEY SAID IT
RIGHT HERE.
And you've ignored all the testimony of church memberswho've had lied and claimed no problems with third-party inks,
What's funny is the fact that he's using impressive logic.
a. 3rd party user has issue
b. 3rd party user seeks support
c. issue was the third party product
Failing to take into account
a. User has issue
b. User seeks support
c. Issue may or may not be ink related
Given at some point everyone will have an issue with their printer it's
easy to blame the ink. *I'm willing to believe the factory reccomended ink is going to in all likelyhood be more troublefree.* This is
reasonable. *And *for users who are not techsavy *it can be totally worth
it.
*
zakezuke said:What's funny is the fact that he's using impressive logic.
a. 3rd party user has issue
b. 3rd party user seeks support
c. issue was the third party product
Failing to take into account
a. User has issue
b. User seeks support
c. Issue may or may not be ink related
Given at some point everyone will have an issue with their printer it's
easy to blame the ink. I'm willing to believe the factory reccomended
ink is going to in all likelyhood be more troublefree. This is
reasonable. And for users who are not techsavy it can be totally worth
it.
Screw that moron meashershithead. We all know he's an idiot.zakezuke said:<edit mine>
No, it isn't. It's one of the reasons I didn't buy a canon at first,
because the head was so spendy and the lifespan was limited. Ask Canon
your self if you don't believe me.
I saved so much thus far that I could buy another printhead or another
printer without loss. This is a fact.
Frank said:Screw that moron meashershithead. We all know he's an idiot.
Frank
Meashershithead is either blind or can't comprehend what he reads. OrJon said:I HAVE SEEN OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR ALL OF THE PEOP[LE WHO HAVE BOUGHT
INKS FROM WHORES WHO HAVE HAD INK CLOGS AND OTHER ISSUES. THEY SAID IT
RIGHT HERE.
And you've ignored all the testimony of people who've had no problems with
third-party inks, as well as that of people who've had 'clogs and other
issues' with OEM inks.
Your opinion's worthless.
Jon.