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measekite
Taliesyn said:Canon doesn't disclose? . . . Well, it certainly doesn't. Measekite
knows better than to call them...
incorrect. go to their website and look at the pics. on the cart is
says canon.
incorrect. go to their website and look at the pics. on the cart is
says canon.
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TJ
I'm curious about the procedure you used to reach that conclusion. The
only valid way would be for you, personally, to use a significant amount
of aftermarket and OEM inks for a while, with the same printer, and
compare the results. I doubt that you have done that. Have you ever used
ANY aftermarket ink? If not, you're just taking the word of ink
relablers (Canon, Epson, HP, Lexmark), all of whom have a vested
interest in discouraging you from using anything but OEM. The PC World
article is outdated and should be discarded. Cite something more recent
and I'll be happy to take a look.
TJ
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TJ
Hmmm...Let's say that a "real" company...pick one - HP - develops a newmeasekite said:
ink that is perfectly waterproof and will last 500 years. They decide to
call the new formulation "Ultimate" ink. By your statement above, HP
will have to renumber the entire cartridge line if they are to use the
new ink in their existing printer base. They wouldn't, for example, just
relabel the old cart boxes to say something like, "New! Improved! NOW
with ULTIMATE ink!"
Get real, Measekite. Companies go the "new, improved" route all the
time. Sometimes they do it when no real improvement has been made.
TJ
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Bob Headrick
TJ said:
To suggest that the major printer manufacturers are nothing more than
"ink relabelers" indicates that you are either severely uninformed or
deliberately trying to mislead. Which is it?
- Bob Headrick
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Taliesyn
measekite said:
Pulling off a "Bob Headrick?"
I see you speak for your employer. One would only know this insider
information if one were a paid company employee. Thank you for admitting
your interest (raison d'etre) here in this group.
-Taliesyn
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Taliesyn
measekite said:
Translation: he couldn't create anything with a desktop publishing
program if his life depended on it.
Liar, you have NOT "found that out to be true." You've never used
aftermarket inks in your life. "Liar, liar pants on fire." Your own
words coming back to haunt you.
So who is your employer again - Canon or PCWorld? You sound confused at
times.
-Taliesyn
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Taliesyn
measekite said:
Canon relabels ink carts made by someone else. Where have I seen that
before? Have you called them yet . . . we're all waiting ;-).
-Taliesyn
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zakezuke
measekite said:
Ah, you are quoting frys again. You need to work on your reading
skills. Buy.com has the printer for $77.99 free shipping.
Which is less?
$80 + Tax
-or-
$77.99 + nothing
Which is better?
$80 + tax at a place with a limited amount of stores
-or-
$77.99 + nothing from a mailorder place.
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Hendo
measekite is correct anti-competition, no choice, no freedom of
association, is the AMERICAN WAY.
Bow down to the OEM. They control your life.
association, is the AMERICAN WAY.
Bow down to the OEM. They control your life.
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measekite
Taliesyn said:
now when will you graduate.
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measekite
Taliesyn said:
Translation: i can afford oem ink and i care to send the very best and
not waste my time.
mornings or afternoon. maybe i own canon
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measekite
Taliesyn said:
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measekite
Bob said:
this is typical of all of the church memebers. most cannot afford the
good stuff until they clog a printhead or two. the least risk of using
the generic ink is with the hp printers that use integrated carts.
other than occassionally ruining your printer with leaky carts they just
throw away the bad clogged cart that should have been thrown away anyway
and then go buy a real hp cart and the printer jumps back to life.
personally i prefer canon with oem ink for photos and for other
documents when i need special paper handling and i prefer MY HP printer
for most other business documents since the results of those text and
graphics documents are a little better even though canon is acceptable
in that regard also.
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measekite
TJ said:
hmmmm if it only lasts 400 years i think you should sue them
these are reputable companies not the relabelers that you favorites with
some of the misinformed
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measekite
if you think that canon, hp and epson are ink relabers and do not llike
them (apparent) i think that you should not use any printers made by them.
them (apparent) i think that you should not use any printers made by them.
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TJ
Bob said:
Severely uninformed and cynical. So how many of the major manufacturers
actually DO make their own ink? And how many farm it out to others?
TJ
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Bob Headrick
TJ said:
Of the two choices that is the preferred one
.I do not know how many *manufacture* their own ink, but I suspect they
all *design* their own ink. Of Epson, Canon, HP and Lexmark I am
certain that this is the case for at least half of them.
- Bob Headrick
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Gary Tait
Whell, it has been at least postulated (perhaps admitted), that certain
preservative agents (anti mould/bactierials I think) in OEM ink, ar omitted
in aftermarket ink in the matter of economy.
Outside of that there probably is nothing special about the composition
itself, just the buisness model the ink and printer are sold under keeps
the printer cheap and the ink expensive.
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measekite
they always cut cornersGary said:
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Taliesyn
Gary said:
HobbiColors discloses the following information on their website:
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Our WC-6 is one of our dye based refill ink products formulated for
thermo bubblejet printhead based inkjet printers. WC-6 inks are
specifically made to match against Canon's BCI-6 line of inkjet
cartridges. WC-6 inks contain colors of black, cyan, magenta, yellow,
photo cyan and photo magenta and are fully compatible with Canon
BCI-6BK, BCI-6C, BCI-6M, BCI-6Y, BCI-6PC and PCI-6PM inks.
"WC-6 Features: WC-6 inks contain the following advanced feature:
*Latest generation colorants for maximum color purity, vibrancy and wide
gamut to achieve optimal inkjet photo printing performance
*Rapid lubricant additive for cleaning printhead orifices to reduce
residual dye accumulation
*Ink volatility enhancer to speed up ink drying time to increase edge
sharpness
*Advanced additives of solubilizing agent, surfactant and penetrant
*Anti-evaporation additive (humectant) to inhibit ink volatilization and
prevent printhead clogging
*Anti-filtration additive to render reliably the vibrancy of the three
primary colors
*Precision spectral matching technology
*Biocide additive to prevent bacteria growing
WC-6 inks are very high quality inkjet inks specifically formulated for
very wide color gamut aimed at inkjet photo printing applications."
________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________
So what's in Canon's ink . . . ?
-Taliesyn