Canon won't disclose...

[zakezuke]

Sorry but Printrite is made by-:

Multi-Union Trading Co Ltd of Hong Kong produces Print Rite inks
amongst others.

That's right.... printrite is a baby companyof Multi-Union, or at least
that i's what I read before they chaned to a flashy flash website.
Close enough

 

[CWatters]

that is totally false. one of the reasons you pay more for an oem
product is to get the consistency they provide.

Perhaps but is there really any evidence for that?

I thought manufacturers were allways striving to improve their products.
How can they do they if the never change the formulation or their supplier?

 

[TJ]

Perhaps but is there really any evidence for that?

I thought manufacturers were allways striving to improve their products.
How can they do they if the never change the formulation or their supplier?

You won't get through to Measekite that way. Logic is lost on the obsessed.

TJ

 

[Taliesyn]

now that is something i agree with and i do understand. glad you
finally admitted that.

Glad we see eye to eye that my use of aftermarket inks was a tremendous
money saving idea - $1000 CDN last year (at least 10 cartridge sets).
Not nearly as much this year as I don't print much. However, I still can
print to my heart's content should I choose to do so, without worrying
about cost and yet still get the same wonderful results I'd get had I
used Canon re-labeled inks that cost 10 to 20 times more, depending on
volume bought. Very glad you saw the light.

-Taliesyn

 

[measekite]

Glad we see eye to eye

only on this and that is because you print a lot of high school term
papers but when you focus on arithmetic you will not print as much.

snip by request

 

[measekite]

canon did improve their ink and the letters bci were replaced with cli
in the part number. you see most of the time when a real company makes
a significant change in their product they have a new part number. some
of this is mandated and some is policy.

 

[zakezuke]

Measekite said: Snipped per request

I think the real question here is how do you know that canon has not
changed their formula when they won't disclose what it is. How do you
know if canon changed suppliers.

Sure we changed from bci-6 to pgi-5 and cli-8, and we also know there a
name for the new ink of "chromalife 100". But the truth of the matter
is beyond this you know nothing about it's formulation beyond what they
told you about chromalife100.

 

[Taliesyn]

Measekite said: Snipped per request

I think the real question here is how do you know that canon has not
changed their formula when they won't disclose what it is. How do you
know if canon changed suppliers.

Sure we changed from bci-6 to pgi-5 and cli-8, and we also know there a
name for the new ink of "chromalife 100". But the truth of the matter
is beyond this you know nothing about it's formulation beyond what they
told you about chromalife100.

Canon doesn't disclose? . . . Well, it certainly doesn't. Measekite
knows better than to call them ...

You see this makes me very uncomfortable not knowing who makes their ink
and what's in it; especially when I have to pay through the nose to buy
a set of cartridges. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT'S IN IT THAT COSTS SO MUCH
that others can sell a quart for the same price that Canon sells a
spoonful. Okay, a tablespoon.

-Taliesyn

 

[zakezuke]

Measekite said: Snipped per request

Odds are since we are talking $1000s of dollars, this would be in the
neighborhood of 15 cartridge changes each color. This is more than
your average highschool term paper.

I'm not sure about the printing needs of the feild of arithmetric, but
arithmetic can be done using a printer and word. It's nice when
getting into geometry, trig, calc, even if your only application is
printing off graph paper.

 

[Taliesyn]

Measekite said: Snipped per request

Odds are since we are talking $1000s of dollars, this would be in the
neighborhood of 15 cartridge changes each color. This is more than
your average highschool term paper.

Last year I printed many personal projects - greeting cards (at least 45
at double pages); many CD labels, liners and inserts; a couple of dozen
full color booklets (some containing 100 photos) ranging in size from 24
to 94 pages, full page folded in half; a couple of hundred digital
photos; and on and on...

This year everything is on hold as I'm concentrating only on my mp3
player - editing songs for loading. I have cartridges from last year
still in my printers, which shows you how rarely I've used them. Last
year I was changing them every 4 weeks on average. But even at 1 to 2
cartridge changes it doesn't pay to use OEM. Just two cartridge changes
alone cost more than the latest printer (which COMES with a set of new
cartridges!). The end.

I'm not sure about the printing needs of the field of arithmetric, but
arithmetic can be done using a printer and word. It's nice when
getting into geometry, trig, calc, even if your only application is
printing off graph paper.

Forget math if Measekite failed the economics of savings.

-Taliesyn

 

[zakezuke]

Forget math if Measekite failed the economics of savings.

No he hasn't... it's poitned out on a regular basis that the ip4200
costs little more than the OEM ink, and economicly speaking you might
as well buy another printer. This is very true as the OEM ink will run
you $70 or so and the printer today on buy.com is $77.99 with free
shipping. So based on measekite's own advice the net risk to the end
user is about $8.00.

 

[Davy]

zakezukewrote:
[quote:680949924c="zakezuke"] printrite is a baby companyof
Multi-Union, or at least

that i's what I read before they chaned to a flashy flash website.
Close enough [/quote:680949924c]

Ah, hence 'Multi Union', coin just dropped....... with a big clang.!

Davy

 

[Taliesyn]

No he hasn't... it's poitned out on a regular basis that the ip4200
costs little more than the OEM ink, and economicly speaking you might
as well buy another printer. This is very true as the OEM ink will run
you $70 or so and the printer today on buy.com is $77.99 with free
shipping. So based on measekite's own advice the net risk to the end
user is about $8.00.

So I got $1,000 CDN savings last year at the risk of $8. Ya gotta love
them odds, baby! Infinitely better than playing the lottery where my
only winnings last year was a damn free ticket!!!

-Taliesyn

 

[zakezuke]

So I got $1,000 CDN savings last year at the risk of $8. Ya gotta love
them odds, baby! Infinitely better than playing the lottery where my
only winnings last year was a damn free ticket!!!

-Taliesyn

Well, the deal is exceptional, but it's the one measekite rants about
to everyone... which I do have to agree it's one of the cheaper
printers to get into with reasonable operating costs.

For most people who shop at their local computer or office store we are
talking "street price" of $100. Canadian I'd guess $130ish for the
printer, $140ish for the ink.

 

[Zitty]

that is totally false. one of the reasons you pay more for an oem product
is to get the consistency they provide.

if you are in a country then you get a consistent product. no ifs ands or
buts.

No you don't. Look at the rows of ink carts available over the counter and
you'll soon see that the manufacturing plant used to source these items
varies wildly from one ink cart to the next (same model etc.). Sometimes
Japan or Mexico or Taiwan, or one of a few dozen manufacturing plants around
the world (who, by the by, no doubt make the same ink used by 3rd party
supplies too)

snip

Did you really HAVE to snip the link I provided in my posting? The one that
links to

http://www.alotofthings.com/inkjetinformation/Epsonoriginalinkconsistency.htm

and quite clearly shows there are differences??

Of course you did didn't you... as it blows your argument out of the
water... in much the same way as you blow crap out of you ass everyday here
in this group.

Here's the link again in case you missed it

http://www.alotofthings.com/inkjetinformation/Epsonoriginalinkconsistency.htm

Take one look at that again, and then try and tell me "one of the reasons
you pay more for an oem product is to get the consistency they provide."

[...]

 

[Taliesyn]

Well, the deal is exceptional, but it's the one measekite rants about
to everyone... which I do have to agree it's one of the cheaper
printers to get into with reasonable operating costs.

For most people who shop at their local computer or office store we are
talking "street price" of $100. Canadian I'd guess $130ish for the
printer, $140ish for the ink.

Yeah, Canadian printer price seems spot on; and the ink at Staples, I
believe went for $97 CDN. $97 for ink (with taxes). It boggles the
mind!!! I'm paying less than a 1/10th that right now for aftermarket ink.

-Taliesyn

 

[Frank]

Zitty wrote:



that is totally false. one of the reasons you pay more for an oem product
is to get the consistency they provide.



if you are in a country then you get a consistent product. no ifs ands or
buts.

No you don't. Look at the rows of ink carts available over the counter and
you'll soon see that the manufacturing plant used to source these items
varies wildly from one ink cart to the next (same model etc.). Sometimes
Japan or Mexico or Taiwan, or one of a few dozen manufacturing plants around
the world (who, by the by, no doubt make the same ink used by 3rd party
supplies too)

snip

Did you really HAVE to snip the link I provided in my posting? The one that
links to

http://www.alotofthings.com/inkjetinformation/Epsonoriginalinkconsistency.htm

and quite clearly shows there are differences??

Of course you did didn't you... as it blows your argument out of the
water... in much the same way as you blow crap out of you ass everyday here
in this group.

Here's the link again in case you missed it

http://www.alotofthings.com/inkjetinformation/Epsonoriginalinkconsistency.htm

Take one look at that again, and then try and tell me "one of the reasons
you pay more for an oem product is to get the consistency they provide."

[...]

I still can't figure out what dog meashershithead has in this oem vs
aftermarket fight! More and more though, it seems as if he is a paid
stooge for canon. Although I find it very difficult to believe that
canon is that naive or gullible as to pay a mentally retarded, derange
jackass like him.
But then again, stranger things have happened...I think!
Frank

 

[measekite]

No you don't. Look at the rows of ink carts available over the counter and
you'll soon see that the manufacturing plant used to source these items
varies wildly from one ink cart to the next (same model etc.). Sometimes
Japan or Mexico or Taiwan, or one of a few dozen manufacturing plants around
the world (who, by the by, no doubt make the same ink used by 3rd party
supplies too)

like i said canon controls the formulation and quality control and that
what provides for a consistent product.

snip

Did you really HAVE to snip the link I provided in my posting? The one that
links to

http://www.alotofthings.com/inkjetinformation/Epsonoriginalinkconsistency.htm

and quite clearly shows there are differences??

Of course you did didn't you... as it blows your argument out of the
water... in much the same way as you blow crap out of you ass everyday here
in this group.

Here's the link again in case you missed it

http://www.alotofthings.com/inkjetinformation/Epsonoriginalinkconsistency.htm

Take one look at that again, and then try and tell me "one of the reasons
you pay more for an oem product is to get the consistency they provide."

[...]

i found them to be unprofessionial. how long have you worked for them

 

[measekite]

when da printer is on sale is cost $80.00 plus sales tax and there is
not shipping

 

[measekite]

Last year I printed many personal projects - greeting cards (at least 45
at double pages); many CD labels, liners and inserts; a couple of dozen
full color booklets (some containing 100 photos) ranging in size from 24
to 94 pages, full page folded in half; a couple of hundred digital
photos; and on and on...

i send hallmark because i care enough to send the very best

This year everything is on hold as I'm concentrating only on my mp3
player - editing songs for loading. I have cartridges from last year
still in my printers, which shows you how rarely I've used them. Last
year I was changing them every 4 weeks on average. But even at 1 to 2
cartridge changes it doesn't pay to use OEM.

it certainly does. to get the best results, longevity, and best balance
of printer maintenance pcworld recommends oem ink and i found that to be
true