CANON WARRANTY REGARDING AFTERMARKET INK

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fb said:
Yeah that idiot actually considers himself to be an expert on all
things that have to do with printing.
What a joke he is! What a liar!
Frank

YOU SHOULD NOT TALK ABOUT YOURSELF DAT WAY
 
DIS MIZ TIZZY WHO IS BIZEE
1. A printer's warranty isn't void by the use of aftermarket inks. In
America this would be a violation of Federal Law {MAGNUSON-MOSS
WARRANTY IMPROVEMENT ACT) which should be handled by the FTC. Other
countries have similar provisions. Now if the damage was caused by 3rd
party inks and it can be proven the same damage wouldn't happen with
OEM ink... then yes they decline warranty service legaly. In practice
this does not happen.

2. *NOWHERE* and I mean NOWHERE does the warranty expressly say that
the use of third party products voids the warranty. Even if there
was... it would be in total violation of Federal Law in America... as
well as laws in other respective countries. Measekite was nice
enough to conferm that under Canon's warranty so long as the product
doesn't cause excessive returns the warranty is NOT void.

3. The only person having a tizzy is Measkite. This diatribulation is
all about some guy who thinks his warranty on his epson was void as a
direct result of 3rd party ink use. This is the sort of thing that
needs to be reported to the FTC because it can easily be proven that
Epsons like most inkjets do clog as a direct result of normal use.
 
Interesting. I'm not really sure what it is. Looking at the current one
with a flashlight, it looks like a dark thin trail or dried ink down
the side, and some lighter colored, fluffy stuff around the bottom of
it.

Careful, you might be growing a couple of ink trolls, there is one that
frequents this ng and we don't need any more.
I suggest that you wear some garlic and drive stakes through their hearts.
Harry Potter would probably help you if you need it <g>.
Tony
 
measekite said:
YOU SHOULD NOT TALK ABOUT YOURSELF DAT WAY

For the first time in 12 years of usenet, I've just killfiled someone
for persistently posting in all caps. Good times.
 
SINCE YOU HAVE SOME DIFFICULTY UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS GOING ON I WILL
TAKE SOME TIME TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU. FIRST I DO THINK THAT OEM INK IS
WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. I BELIEVE THEY COULD MAKE A GOOD PROFIT BY CHARGING
HALF THE PRICE AND NOT HAVE TO RAISE THE PRICE OF THE PRINTERS AT ALL.

HOWEVER, I DO RESENT A BUNCH OF TWO BIT LYING VENDORS WHO DO NOT
DISCLOSE PUBLICLY (THAT IS ON THEIR WEBSITE, ON THEIR LABELS AND ON
THEIR BOXES EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE SELLING. THIS ALLOWS SOME OF THEM TO
CHEAT AND THE CUSTOMER CANNOT FILE A LAWSUIT FOR FALSE ADVERTISING AND
LABELING BECAUSE THE DO NOT DISCLOSE.

ALSO IF AN AFTERMARKET MFG ESTABLISHED A BRAND AND SOLD THE PACKAGE
THRU MANY WEB RETAILERS AS WELL AS BRICK AND MORTAR STORES THEN THEY
WOULD DEVELOP A REPUTATION GOOD OR BAD. AND IF IT WAS BAD CUSTOMERS
COULD EASILY AVOID THEM.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS NOT THE CASE AT THE PRESENT TIME. THERE ARE A
BUNCH OF IDIOTS THAT DISAGREE AND CALL ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH THEN
NAMES. THEY ARE CERTAINLY AN ABUSIVE BUNCH.

SOMEBODY HAS TO TELL NEW VISITORS WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS INDUSTRY.
 
Todd - I'd even forgive the all caps postings if Measekite were civil, was
helpful to participants of the NG, and made sense. Three strikes PLUS all
caps. Yrrrrrr out!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
measekite wrote:




Who's having a tizzy? You are the only one screaming in capitals.





Not that you care, but I'm a she.


HE AS A SPECIAL CASE SO IT CAN BE SAID IT IS



Um. It is NOT a laboriou pain. I can fill an ink tank in less than 2
minutes. No big deal.
BOY THAT IS A QUICKIE
That's about a minute longer than getting out a
brand new one. And about 30 minutes LESS than it takes to drive to the
store and back. And considering that most of my ink tends to run out
when I am really busy, or late at night when the stores close, it's a
lot more convenient to have plenty of ink right here.

For the same price of a complete set of new OEM cartrudges, I can buy a
complete set of bottled ink - that's 8oz each of cyan, magenta,
yellow, photo cyan, photo magenta, and 16 oz of black.

I can refill all of the tanks in the house, including my spare set, in
less than 15 minutes. So, usually, I can switch out tanks rather than
fill each time I run out.

I realize you are obsessed with attacking this idea, but why do you
think it is so difficult to do? Isn't the trip to the store more of a
hassle?

I ALREADY STATED THE FOR HIGH VOLUME USERS LIKE YOURSELF YOU DO NOT HAVE
AN ECONOMIC CHOICE
 
Burt wrote:



Yes, I know. But I figure we have to undo his damage as others will be
searching these newsgroups looking for advice later, and I'd rather
they find a variety of success stories.

THAT IS NOT ENTIRELY TRUE. LOW AND MODERATE USERS WHO HAVE A LIGHT
PRINTLOAD CAN GET A CLOG FROM THE LIMITED USE OF THEIR PRINTER.
AFTERMARKET INK THAT IS NOT DESIGNED FOR THE PRINTER BY THE MFG HAS A
HIGHER RISK OF CLOGGING UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. WHILE THERE MAY BE
SOME INK OUT THERE THAT MAY BE OK IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL FOR CERTAIN
WHAT YOU ARE GETTING AND THE GOOD FROM THE BAD BECAUSE THE AFTERMARKET
INK VENDORS DO NOT DISCLOSE WHAT THEY ARE SELLING.
 
Taliesyn wrote:



Yes, it is odd, but two of them have had mold growing in them. Granted,
they were probably close to empty for awhile before I pulled them out.
I was really surprised about the first one. I didn't realize it was
possible. The second one, I just found a couple days ago. There is a
small amount of mold in it. So, I'll chuck it and get another one.
NEVER HEARDTHAT ONE WITH CANON, EPSON, OR HP INK BUT I GUESS IT HAPPENS
WITH AFTERMARKET INK.
 
I haven't seen anybody insist that YOU should start refilling ink. I do
see YOU trying to stop everybody from refilling ink.

Honestly, if you don't use your printers that much, why do you spend
so much time trolling a printer newsgroup?
He's probably drunk, on drugs or both. He is by far the dumbest
psychopath to ever post in any ng I've seen to date.
Frank
 
Measkite said: The usual snipped per request

Actually you freely admited that Formulabs was a brand
http://groups.google.com/group/comp...=st&q=brand+formulabs&rnum=1#3ed1833f50a9e2ce

The problem is you have such high standards for ink that Canon nor any
other manufacturer of printers could meet. In fact your standards are
so high that the only possible way any manufacturer of ink could meet
them is aftermarket ink. The other problem is your standards are just
that... your standards... not my standards or anyone else's.

In aftermarket ink you have a choice of bulk refill, bulk prefilled,
aftermarket brand, aftermarket house label, and serviced refilling.
Not to speak of recycled prefills. Big stores like Walmart and Office
Max carry brand named ink UPC 087486004814 [holding a Stanford MBA
you aught to be able to read the manufacturer from a barcode]. I can
either buy the brand with the label or buy the store label reflecting
the manufacturer's registered UPC code. 100% tracable except in
Measkite land.
there are a bunch of idiots that disagree and call anyone who disagrees with
then name. they are certainly an abusive bunch

Firstly we have this they attitude... which sugests that it's you who
believe that anyone who disagrees with you is against you.... when the
most plausable explanation is that you are simply wrong. And this
*they* conspircy... *they* are abusive? Look at you! What's worse is
you are talking about the honesty of these users... these users who
print more than you do. You have... and I mean this with the upmost
respect, no concept of the printer industry what so ever. You go on
about how epson designs printheads and ink to go with those printheads
when.... get this... it's freaking likely to get a Xaar printhead in an
Epson or even an Epson printhead in a Xaar printer. You assume because
it carries a brand name that everything inside was manufactured by
that "label" when in reality you have no idea what so ever who did
what. And to make things worse, you go on like ravid aardvark on
steroids about products you have never even used making wild claims
about how brand or label X will do damage when it's painfuly clear to
others who actually *USE* it it doesn't. You blame every single
malfunction... even software related ones... to aftermarket ink even
when the user isn't even using aftermarket ink but somehow in your mind
it's the aftermarket ink causing the monitor to be calibrated wrong.
Yet somehow you expect anyone to believe there is a conspiracy of
people out there who's entire purpose in life is to call you names when
it's you sir... you sir are the problem. You sir are the liar, and you
sir, you sir are the source of the abuse. And if this hurts your
feelings... too bad... try to be an adult for a change and don't lash
out at random people just because they disagree with you.
 
Referring to a non sequitur Measekite post.
And to make things worse, you go on like ravid aardvark on
steroids
<snip>

My compliments, what a beautiful piece of prose. I don't think I want to meet
one of those!
Tony
 
In message said:
It's a theory that Canon hired out a viral advertising agency who
employs people to spam the groups. It sounds silly but considering
that young people don't spend as much time watching TV as they once
did... they have to plug their product somehow and it's been known to
happen some joe/jane take a perfectly inocent blog site and make it
into the splitting image of the marketing spew on the offical website.
There is no evidence to back this up other than the fact that this
person plugs Canon 10 times a day, and plugs OEM inks every time
someone asks a technical support question... software related onces.

Personally, I think it is more likely that he is an employee of Epson or
HP, attempting to put people off Canon by providing an example of their
typical user!
 
He's probably drunk, on drugs or both. He is by far the dumbest
psychopath to ever post in any ng I've seen to date.

Oh I don't know, have you tried some of the scarier religious
newsfroups?
 
Oh I don't know, have you tried some of the scarier religious newsfroups?

ARE U REFERING TO DA CHURCH OF DA LATTER DAY INKIE STINKIES

OR DA CHURCH OF REFILLERS ANONYMOUS

DA ANONYMOUS IS DA INK DAY USE CUSE DAY DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS
 
ARE U REFERING TO DA CHURCH OF DA LATTER DAY INKIE STINKIES

OR DA CHURCH OF REFILLERS ANONYMOUS

DA ANONYMOUS IS DA INK DAY USE CUSE DAY DO NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS
Measekite speaking in tongues. He is the new textbook case for demonic
possession.
 
Ron said:
Measekite speaking in tongues. He is the new textbook case for demonic
possession.
WE NEED AN EXORCISM. WE NEED TO EXORCISE THE BAD PRINTER CLOGGING
AFTERMARKET IN FROM THE PRINTER AND REPLACE WITH GENUINE OEM CARTS
 
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