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Tom Lake
David Wright said:
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Tom Lake
如æ¤å¿…须我。
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abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
your Chinese is too bad. LOL. not the regular order. you should say "Èç´ËÎÒ±ØÐë¡°¡£ LOL¡£can your Vista show Chinese characters?
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Tom Lake
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz said:
Yes, it can in Unicode.
是, 它能。
Tom Lake
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Colin Barnhorst
I don't need to see Chinese characters...I'm reading one's posts. 
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Dale
And the OP may have, for all you know, tried those groups without getting an
answer. Your response was insensitive and inappropriate. As far as I am
aware, these news groups are open to users of all races and nationalities.
Dale
answer. Your response was insensitive and inappropriate. As far as I am
aware, these news groups are open to users of all races and nationalities.
Dale
Richard G. Harper said:Thank you. On occasion we do strive to be inappropriate though the best
we generally can achieve is simply embarrassing.
Lighten up, dude. The OP posted the same query yesterday and got several
pointers to newsgroups where Chinese is the primary language. For
whatever reason he didn't follow that advice and returned today with the
same request. The rest follows ...
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Dale said:
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Tom Lake
Dale said:
If a person expects an answer, though, he or she should ask and be able
to understand the language of the newsgroup to which (s)he posts. Unless
specified in the name of the newsgroup, the default language is English.
When the question is very complicated, the OP might not be able to
word it properly in English so is much more likely to get a proper answer
in a newsgroup dedicated to his/her native tongue.
Tom Lake
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Dale
Which would be exactly the reason the OP asked if anyone spoke Chinese.
His/her original requests about the bootable information for Vista DVDs,
etc. were all responded to with ridicule. That ridicule seemed appropriate
because the appearance was that it was someone trying to use Vista
illegally. What was not clear was that the questions seemed inappropriate
because of a language barrier. The OP, as far as I could tell, tried to
overcome that language barrier by asking if anyone spoke Chinese.
There are a lot of users in most user groups and news groups with varying
skills in English. Mocking them for their grammar or differences is not an
appropriate response.
Dale
His/her original requests about the bootable information for Vista DVDs,
etc. were all responded to with ridicule. That ridicule seemed appropriate
because the appearance was that it was someone trying to use Vista
illegally. What was not clear was that the questions seemed inappropriate
because of a language barrier. The OP, as far as I could tell, tried to
overcome that language barrier by asking if anyone spoke Chinese.
There are a lot of users in most user groups and news groups with varying
skills in English. Mocking them for their grammar or differences is not an
appropriate response.
Dale
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Richard G. Harper
Thank you for your opinion.
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Dale said:And the OP may have, for all you know, tried those groups without getting
an answer. Your response was insensitive and inappropriate. As far as I
am aware, these news groups are open to users of all races and
nationalities.
Dale
Richard G. Harper said:Thank you. On occasion we do strive to be inappropriate though the best
we generally can achieve is simply embarrassing.
Lighten up, dude. The OP posted the same query yesterday and got several
pointers to newsgroups where Chinese is the primary language. For
whatever reason he didn't follow that advice and returned today with the
same request. The rest follows ...
--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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Alan
You'd better be careful, Colin.
Dale seems to be our resident politically-correctness diversity enforcer and
you will incur his wrath. :>
Alan
Dale seems to be our resident politically-correctness diversity enforcer and
you will incur his wrath. :>
Alan
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Dale
No, Alan. It's not political correctness. There are two things I have
stood for here, and I stand for both of them in my life away from
newsgroups. One is theft, even the theft of software where no one sees you
steal it. The other thing I stood up for was against racist remarks made in
the name of humor.
Guess what, Alan. Racism is not funny and racist jokes are not funny.
Standing against them isn't about being politically correct or about
diversity.
Neither the theft of software issue nor the racial jokes are about being
politically correct. They're not about Republican or Democrat; they're not
about American or anti-American. They're not about God or atheism. They're
about character and human decency. All I can say, if you can't see that, is
that you should look inward, at yourself, and not at me.
Dale
stood for here, and I stand for both of them in my life away from
newsgroups. One is theft, even the theft of software where no one sees you
steal it. The other thing I stood up for was against racist remarks made in
the name of humor.
Guess what, Alan. Racism is not funny and racist jokes are not funny.
Standing against them isn't about being politically correct or about
diversity.
Neither the theft of software issue nor the racial jokes are about being
politically correct. They're not about Republican or Democrat; they're not
about American or anti-American. They're not about God or atheism. They're
about character and human decency. All I can say, if you can't see that, is
that you should look inward, at yourself, and not at me.
Dale
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Dennis Pack
Dale:
I agree with your reply completely. I would like to add one thing to
"They're about character and human decency."; being able to show people
respect including ones' self. The common language in this newsgroup is
American-English, much to the chagrin of the people outside the USA that
speak UK-English or other languages. It's also an extreme handicap to people
that American-English isn't a common or natural language. Grammatically
American-English is the opposite of most other languages which make
translation difficult and awkward.
I agree with your reply completely. I would like to add one thing to
"They're about character and human decency."; being able to show people
respect including ones' self. The common language in this newsgroup is
American-English, much to the chagrin of the people outside the USA that
speak UK-English or other languages. It's also an extreme handicap to people
that American-English isn't a common or natural language. Grammatically
American-English is the opposite of most other languages which make
translation difficult and awkward.
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Alan
Dale,
Would you think that someone who commented about Swedish meatballs to a
Swede, pizza to an Italian, escargot to a French person or Lutefisk, lefse
bread and sardines to a Norwegian was being "racist?"
Now, if someone uses words such as W*ps, D*gos, K*kes, N*ggers, Ch*nks,
M*cks, J*ps, W*gs, Sp*cs, etc., I would agree they are being racist. However
to claim that using terms such as "Chow Mein," and "Bok Choy" to a Chinese
person who asks if anyone speaks Chinese is -- in my opinion -- being
hypersensitive. Some might claim that you're even looking to pick a fight.
As Freud states: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Your looking for
perceived-insults where there aren't any, not putting things into
perspective, and having absolutely no sense of humor are traits that you
should not go out of your way to cultivate in your life.
You'll find that you'll be constantly tilting against windmills...and most
people will avoid you like the plague.
Alan
Would you think that someone who commented about Swedish meatballs to a
Swede, pizza to an Italian, escargot to a French person or Lutefisk, lefse
bread and sardines to a Norwegian was being "racist?"
Now, if someone uses words such as W*ps, D*gos, K*kes, N*ggers, Ch*nks,
M*cks, J*ps, W*gs, Sp*cs, etc., I would agree they are being racist. However
to claim that using terms such as "Chow Mein," and "Bok Choy" to a Chinese
person who asks if anyone speaks Chinese is -- in my opinion -- being
hypersensitive. Some might claim that you're even looking to pick a fight.
As Freud states: sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Your looking for
perceived-insults where there aren't any, not putting things into
perspective, and having absolutely no sense of humor are traits that you
should not go out of your way to cultivate in your life.
You'll find that you'll be constantly tilting against windmills...and most
people will avoid you like the plague.
Alan
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Alan
Does the word "please" exist in Chinese?
Alan
Alan
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz said:
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Ray
Who are we to determine what is or isn't a racist remark until we're on the
receiving end. What we perceive as harmless may be quite insulting to
another person, speaking as a Brit living in Canada, I have been the centre
of a few remarks over the years. I take them with a regard as to who and
where they came from, but nevertheless they have caused me some discomfort.
There are so many variables in a situation like this that it is best to
leave any remarks out of the conversation, at least until you know the
person very well, and are sure that joking remarks are not given, or taken,
with anything but the best of intentions.
Ray
receiving end. What we perceive as harmless may be quite insulting to
another person, speaking as a Brit living in Canada, I have been the centre
of a few remarks over the years. I take them with a regard as to who and
where they came from, but nevertheless they have caused me some discomfort.
There are so many variables in a situation like this that it is best to
leave any remarks out of the conversation, at least until you know the
person very well, and are sure that joking remarks are not given, or taken,
with anything but the best of intentions.
Ray
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Daern's Instant Fortress
Dennis said:
I think you mean "English" not "UK English".
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Dennis Pack
Daern:
I did mean UK-English. The language is English but included within
the language there is UK-English and American-English, there are spelling
and grammatical differences. This doesn't include dialectical differences
locally. There have been a few posts about UK-English not being available in
Vista or Office 2007 yet because of the differences.
I did mean UK-English. The language is English but included within
the language there is UK-English and American-English, there are spelling
and grammatical differences. This doesn't include dialectical differences
locally. There have been a few posts about UK-English not being available in
Vista or Office 2007 yet because of the differences.
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Daern's Instant Fortress
Dennis said:
That's a Microsoft-centric view. The language is "English" and any US
derivative can and should be called "US English".
Just because Windows is centred on Redmond, it doesn't mean that the
rest of the world is...
Daern
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Dale
Well, the differences are becoming fewer with the American press being so
ashamed of their national origin that they can't wait to jump on any phrase
they can adopt from Great Britain. As a case in point, "Went missing" was
almost never heard in American English dialects until CNN started using it
in the Chandra Levy case. Now, in the interests of seeming more
"international" and less "American", the phrase has become so common that
the word "disappeared" has gone missing (LOL) from our language.
There are differences and those differences should be celebrated and
enjoyed, not ignored, and not eliminated. They should also be
differentiated in the localization of Windows.
IMO,
Dale
ashamed of their national origin that they can't wait to jump on any phrase
they can adopt from Great Britain. As a case in point, "Went missing" was
almost never heard in American English dialects until CNN started using it
in the Chandra Levy case. Now, in the interests of seeming more
"international" and less "American", the phrase has become so common that
the word "disappeared" has gone missing (LOL) from our language.
There are differences and those differences should be celebrated and
enjoyed, not ignored, and not eliminated. They should also be
differentiated in the localization of Windows.
IMO,
Dale
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MICHAEL
That is one of the dumbest things I have read in this newsgroup.
You've said some decent things, even if you are at times
a bit sanctimonious.
That twaddle below looks spewed by some ludicrous popinjay.
-Michael
You've said some decent things, even if you are at times
a bit sanctimonious.
That twaddle below looks spewed by some ludicrous popinjay.
-Michael