Can a hard disk shrink? Or did ****USA steal my HD?

Rod Speed · Oct 18, 2003

Amazing that you would say that some one who's been
thru the system several times doesn't know how it works.

There's plenty of bone heads that never to manage
to grasp those basics no matter how many times
they show up before a particular system.

Are you that threatened by some one who has a
different reading on what's happening than you do?

Or I choose to rub bone head's noses in the legal basics.

Not that that necessarily achieves much most of the time.

It does ensure that others dont take what the bone head
claims as gospel tho. Which is often quite desirable.

Is that why you go on the attack so readily?

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of
your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk.

Rule of Holes.

Sure, that's why I win.

Bet you done always win, or you're a pathological liar.

Becaus I don't know what I'm doing.

The system is designed to work in spite of pig
ignorance of the basics by those that appear
before it. It does work surprisingly well there.

Doesnt matter a damn if you can ever grasp those basics
on proof yourself, what matters is that the judge etc has.

You cant even manage the simplest stuff like what he
may or may not have a receipt for, let alone the more
complicated stuff like the formal standard of proof required.

"I have the receipt for the original HD (was an
upgrade) and registered its serial no., but the
repair center says that it's not enough proof."

QED, you dont know for example whether
the receipt he has for the hard drive includes
installation into that particular system etc.

The hard drive was bought seperately from the system.

Doesnt say a damned thing about whether it was later
installed in that system and whether the receipt shows that.

From the OP's original post.
Duh.

Not so.

Fraid so.

ANY hard drive that will boot will work,

Wrong. Even you should be able to
grasp what an intermittent fault is about.

and any repair center wiorth anything (and wanting to
maximize profits) will have at least one sitting around.

Sure, and that may have been the 40GB drive that
didnt get replaced by the original 80GB drive when
it turned out that swapping the original power supply
was with another with the same design problem.

But you don't need to duplicate the drive's
content to see if the drive is the problem.

Wrong with an intermittent fault that only shows
up as a freeze or bsod every couple of days or so.

Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out
where the fault is by just swapping something like a
hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare.

Really?

Yes, really.

How short a time can this be done?

Depends on a number of variables, but it isnt something
you have to sit around waiting for, you can set the clone
op up and go on with something else while it clones.

It shouldn't be to difficult to figure out, using
a simple max speed of the drives involved.

Anyone with a clue knows roughly how long that
takes because its the sort of thing thats done often
when the original drive is replaced by a bigger one.

Quite a few operations clone for free in that
situation, because its so effortless to setup, even
when the margins on hard drives is so low now.

Oops! It takes more time that would be considered
negligible when you're charging by time.

You dont even know that they were
charging by time if its a warranty claim.

IOW, the shop would charge for it as diagnostics.

You dont even know that either.

You're right. But that's not t5he first thing that
would be checked , is it? Of course not.

And wasnt the first thing that was checked. The first thing
that was checked was the much more likely possibility, the
power supply. Turned out that the replacement had the same
design problem as the original and so when that swap didnt
make the problem go away, something else was tried.

Why waste the time if the drive can be replaced
with a known good drive for much less time?

Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where
a fault that intermittent is by just swapping something like
a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare.

Easy to say. I note that you give nothing to back up your theory.

Obvious lie. I clearly did just that.

Where did the OP say any of that?
Did you actually *READ* the original post?
"I took my Compaq equipped with 80 gig
HD to ****USA but got back a 40 gig."

He said rather more than just that later.

I don't think CompUSA does warranty work on Compaqs.
In fact, I know they don't.

They may well do if they were paid to upgrade that PC with
an 80GB drive and the system was unstable after that upgrade,
freezing and bsodding every couple of days after the upgrade.

Come back when you've actually read the OP.

Go and shove your head up a dead bear's arse.

john · Oct 18, 2003

Affammuoc a chit'e' muort !

Rod Speed said:
There's plenty of bone heads that never to manage
to grasp those basics no matter how many times
they show up before a particular system.

Or I choose to rub bone head's noses in the legal basics.

Not that that necessarily achieves much most of the time.

It does ensure that others dont take what the bone head
claims as gospel tho. Which is often quite desirable.

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of
your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk.

Rule of Holes.

Bet you done always win, or you're a pathological liar.

The system is designed to work in spite of pig
ignorance of the basics by those that appear
before it. It does work surprisingly well there.

Doesnt matter a damn if you can ever grasp those basics
on proof yourself, what matters is that the judge etc has.

You cant even manage the simplest stuff like what he
may or may not have a receipt for, let alone the more
complicated stuff like the formal standard of proof required.

QED, you dont know for example whether
the receipt he has for the hard drive includes
installation into that particular system etc.

Doesnt say a damned thing about whether it was later
installed in that system and whether the receipt shows that.

Fraid so.

Wrong. Even you should be able to
grasp what an intermittent fault is about.

Sure, and that may have been the 40GB drive that
didnt get replaced by the original 80GB drive when
it turned out that swapping the original power supply
was with another with the same design problem.

Wrong with an intermittent fault that only shows
up as a freeze or bsod every couple of days or so.

Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out
where the fault is by just swapping something like a
hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare.

Yes, really.

Depends on a number of variables, but it isnt something
you have to sit around waiting for, you can set the clone
op up and go on with something else while it clones.

Anyone with a clue knows roughly how long that
takes because its the sort of thing thats done often
when the original drive is replaced by a bigger one.

Quite a few operations clone for free in that
situation, because its so effortless to setup, even
when the margins on hard drives is so low now.

You dont even know that they were
charging by time if its a warranty claim.

You dont even know that either.

And wasnt the first thing that was checked. The first thing
that was checked was the much more likely possibility, the
power supply. Turned out that the replacement had the same
design problem as the original and so when that swap didnt
make the problem go away, something else was tried.

Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where
a fault that intermittent is by just swapping something like
a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare.

Obvious lie. I clearly did just that.

He said rather more than just that later.

They may well do if they were paid to upgrade that PC with
an 80GB drive and the system was unstable after that upgrade,
freezing and bsodding every couple of days after the upgrade.

Go and shove your head up a dead bear's arse.

Bill Funk · Oct 18, 2003

There's plenty of bone heads that never to manage
to grasp those basics no matter how many times
they show up before a particular system.

Or I choose to rub bone head's noses in the legal basics.

Not that that necessarily achieves much most of the time.

It does ensure that others dont take what the bone head
claims as gospel tho. Which is often quite desirable.

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of
your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk.

Ah, you fall back on your attack mode again!
How predictable!
You lose again.

Rule of Holes.

Bet you done always win, or you're a pathological liar.

See? Another attack.
You don't know me. or my record in small claims court, but you attack,
calling me a liar.
What else can be expected from someone who's so unsure of himself that
he can't bear to have his pronouncements challanged?

The system is designed to work in spite of pig
ignorance of the basics by those that appear
before it. It does work surprisingly well there.

Doesnt matter a damn if you can ever grasp those basics
on proof yourself, what matters is that the judge etc has.

That's really funny.
You're saying that the judge is a mind reader.

You cant even manage the simplest stuff like what he
may or may not have a receipt for, let alone the more
complicated stuff like the formal standard of proof required.

Sure I can. I read the OP's post, which you obviously didn't.

QED, you dont know for example whether
the receipt he has for the hard drive includes
installation into that particular system etc.

It's a real shame that your reading comprehension is so low.
If the receipt included installation in that system, there'd have been
little reason for CompUSA to say that the receipt wasn't proof that
the system came in with the 80 Gig drive.

Doesnt say a damned thing about whether it was later
installed in that system and whether the receipt shows that.

While it doesn't say that the drive was or wasn't installed, the
receipt didn't say that, or the OP would have mentioned it, and
CompUSA would have responded differently.

Duh.

Well, yeah, "Duh."
It's still a fact that you hadn't understood that.

Fraid so.

Wrong. Even you should be able to
grasp what an intermittent fault is about.

I also grasp how troubleshooting is done.

Sure, and that may have been the 40GB drive that
didnt get replaced by the original 80GB drive when
it turned out that swapping the original power supply
was with another with the same design problem.

Wanna try that again in English?

Wrong with an intermittent fault that only shows
up as a freeze or bsod every couple of days or so.

If it was done that way, it's troubleshooting, and would have been
charged for.
You don't understand this well, do you?

Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out
where the fault is by just swapping something like a
hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare.

Really? Why is that? Because it makes you think that you're right?
Get real, and step back from your prior responses, and look at the
situation in an objective manner. Stop trying to desperately prop up
your mistakes.

Yes, really.

Depends on a number of variables, but it isnt something
you have to sit around waiting for, you can set the clone
op up and go on with something else while it clones.

Anyone with a clue knows roughly how long that
takes because its the sort of thing thats done often
when the original drive is replaced by a bigger one.

Quite a few operations clone for free in that
situation, because its so effortless to setup, even
when the margins on hard drives is so low now.

Really? Who?
The repair places I know about try to actually make money, and charge
for their diagnostic services.

You dont even know that they were
charging by time if its a warranty claim.

What warranty claim?

You dont even know that either.

Right.
No one tries to charge for work done.
In your world, at least.
In the real world, it doesn't work that way.
And CompUSA is, indeed, in the real world.

And wasnt the first thing that was checked. The first thing
that was checked was the much more likely possibility, the
power supply. Turned out that the replacement had the same
design problem as the original and so when that swap didnt
make the problem go away, something else was tried.

Ah, so it was donbe as a diagnostic method, but wasn't charged for.
At CompUSA? Get real.

Only an incompetant fool would attempt to work out where
a fault that intermittent is by just swapping something like
a hard drive and checking that it will boot with the spare.

Says you. But then, says you, no one charges for this work, either.

Obvious lie. I clearly did just that.

Where?
WHat you said was that only an idiot would try that, but then, you
also say that diagnostic work isn't charged for, too. Why believe you
when what you say doesn't match reality?

He said rather more than just that later.

They may well do if they were paid to upgrade that PC with
an 80GB drive and the system was unstable after that upgrade,
freezing and bsodding every couple of days after the upgrade.

Where do you get this stuff? From the same place that says diagnostic
work isn't charged for?

Go and shove your head up a dead bear's arse.

Oh, that makes you sound FAR more authoritative.
Same ol. same ol. You can't *STAND* to be challanged, can you?

Rod Speed · Oct 19, 2003

Affammuoc a chit'e' muort !

Soorree, not into wog 'languages'

Rod Speed · Oct 19, 2003

Ah, you fall back on your attack mode again!

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

How predictable!

How pathetic!!

You lose again.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

See?

Nothing to see, Funk.

Another attack.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

You don't know me. or my record in small claims court,

I do know that no one ever wins every time, unless they
have appeared a completely trivial number of times.

but you attack, calling me a liar.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

What else can be expected from someone who's so unsure of himself

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

that he can't bear to have his pronouncements challanged?

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

Anyone with a clue can check that basic on the
standard of proof required in civil actions, Funk.

You cant even manage something as simple as that ?

Your problem. As always.

That's really funny.

That's really pathetic.

You're saying that the judge is a mind reader.

Wrong. As always. I JUST said that the judge may well
understand what standard of proof is required in civil matters,
even if you're that terminally stupid that you can't, Funk.

Sure I can.

Pity you can't manage to work out what
he actually did say and what he never said.

I read the OP's post, which you obviously didn't.

Pathetic, really.

It's a real shame that your reading comprehension is so low.

Pathetic, really. Even you should be able to manage
better than that pathetically hoary old line, Funk.

If the receipt included installation in that system, there'd
have been little reason for CompUSA to say that the receipt
wasn't proof that the system came in with the 80 Gig drive.

Pathetic, really.

While it doesn't say that the drive was or wasn't installed, the
receipt didn't say that, or the OP would have mentioned it,

More drivel. He barely even mentioned that, so you cant
assume that he absolutely certainly would have mentioned that.

and CompUSA would have responded differently.

You dont know that either.

Well, yeah, "Duh."
It's still a fact that you hadn't understood that.

Pity there was more than just the original post from him.

I also grasp how troubleshooting is done.

Obviously not with the sort of fault being discussed.

Not a clue.

Wanna try that again in English?

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to read
and comprehend that, even if you cant ever manage to
grasp what standard of proof is required with civil claims.

If it was done that way, it's troubleshooting,
and would have been charged for.

You dont know that either if he paid to have the 80GB
drive installed in that system and was making a warranty
claim when it froze or bsoded every couple of days.

You don't understand this well, do you?

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of
your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk.

Really?

Yes, really.

Why is that?

If you dont already know why, its completely
pointless trying to explain it to you.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp that
the system with the fault still present would always boot fine.

The problem was that it would freeze or bsod in a couple of days.

Because it makes you think that you're right? Get real, and step
back from your prior responses, and look at the situation in an
objective manner. Stop trying to desperately prop up your mistakes.

Pathetic, really.

Have you the remotest concept of what a
spectacular fool you are making of yourself, Funk ?

Obviously not, even you cant actually be that stupid.

Really? Who?

Most of the lower cost operations that flog hard drives.

The repair places I know about

What was obviously being discussed there
was operations THAT SELL HARD DRIVES.

Do at least TRY to keep up, Funk.

try to actually make money, and
charge for their diagnostic services.

And plenty of operations make money flogging the
hard drives and clone them for free because its so
damned easy to do if you know what you are doing.

What warranty claim?

The word IF is there for a reason, Funk.

Right.
No one tries to charge for work done.
In your world, at least.

Now you are clearly lying.

I never ever said anything like that,
particularly with warranty claims.

In the real world, it doesn't work that way.

Fraid it does if you have paid for the 80GB drive to be
installed and it then bsods or freezes every couple of days.

And CompUSA is, indeed, in the real world.

Pathetic, really.

Ah, so it was donbe as a diagnostic method,
but wasn't charged for. At CompUSA? Get real.

If you have paid for the 80GB drive to be installed
and it then bsods or freezes every couple of days...

Says you. But then, says you, no one charges for this work, either.

Now you clearly are a liar.

You wont be able to point to even a single example
of me ever saying no one charges for this work.

Where?

Pointless pointing it out to your, you're just a pathological liar.

WHat you said was that only an idiot would try that,

Another lie.

but then, you also say that diagnostic work isn't charged for, too.

Another lie.

Why believe you when what you say doesn't match reality?

Why take any noticed of a pathological liar like you, Funk ?

Where do you get this stuff?

He clearly said that was an upgrade.

From the same place that says diagnostic work isn't charged for?

More of your pathological lying.

Oh, that makes you sound FAR more authoritative.
Same ol. same ol. You can't *STAND* to be challanged, can you?

Pathetic, really.

No one takes any notice of proven pathological liar, Funk.

Bill Funk · Oct 19, 2003

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

How pathetic!!

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

See what I mean?
Oh, no, you don't.
THAT'S pathetic.

Nothing to see, Funk.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

Again.
Yet, you still don't see it.
But then, you and reality aren't on handshaking terms.

I do know that no one ever wins every time, unless they
have appeared a completely trivial number of times.

What's your definition of trivial?
I do my best to not have to go to court.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

And yet again.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

It's getting boring. Spice it up a little.

Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, Funk.

Do you have this in your clipboard?

Anyone with a clue can check that basic on the
standard of proof required in civil actions, Funk.

I have.
The word "preponderance" is in there.

You cant even manage something as simple as that ?

What makes you think I don't?
Exactly? Or are you fantasizing again?

Your problem. As always.

"As always"? Do you know me? I don't think so.
As you have demonstrated here time and again, you just can't handle
anything not going your way.

That's really pathetic.

Wrong. As always. I JUST said that the judge may well
understand what standard of proof is required in civil matters,
even if you're that terminally stupid that you can't, Funk.

What makes you think that?
Exactly?
Let's pretend you are actually trying to make a point, and see what
you've got. Go ahead. Expound on this. Tell us all just how much you
know about my forays into small claims court.

Pity you can't manage to work out what
he actually did say and what he never said.

Explain it then.
If you can without contradicting what you've said.

Pathetic, really.

Pathetic, really. Even you should be able to manage
better than that pathetically hoary old line, Funk.

Thare's the stock answer when you're stuck.

Pathetic, really.

Why, exactly? Make your point instead of just writing something to
take up time.

More drivel. He barely even mentioned that, so you cant
assume that he absolutely certainly would have mentioned that.

Yet you bring up a warranty, when there's absolutely no mention if it?
Do you actually read what you write?

You dont know that either.

It makes sense.
Much more sense than what you're trying to defend.

Pity there was more than just the original post from him.

So go ahead, quote the relevant part that says he has proof the 80
gigger was in the system, and that the system was under warranty, and
that CompUSA was doing warranty work.

Obviously not with the sort of fault being discussed.

And yet you have no evidence at all about the type of work you say was
done.

Not a clue.

More than you, it would seem.

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to read
and comprehend that, even if you cant ever manage to
grasp what standard of proof is required with civil claims.

That's amazing. You know absolutely nothing about my small claims
suits, but you can say this.
Further proof that you just make this up as you go along.

You dont know that either if he paid to have the 80GB
drive installed in that system and was making a warranty
claim when it froze or bsoded every couple of days.

Are you actually trying to say that CompUSA installed the drive?
Are you actually trying to say the system was in for warranty work?
Where did you garner this information?

Even you should be able to bullshit your way out of
your predicament better than that pathetic effort, Funk.

The standard reply when out of anything resembling a coherent answer.

Yes, really.

If you dont already know why, its completely
pointless trying to explain it to you.

Ah, the old "I can't explain it, so I'll just call you dumb" trick.
Wow. You really aren't much above a 10-year-old level of maturity, are
you?

Even someone as stupid as you should be able to grasp that
the system with the fault still present would always boot fine.

And it couldn't be the drive itself?
Do you always go fo the more time-intensive fix when you don't know
what the problem is?
Do you do this for money?

The problem was that it would freeze or bsod in a couple of days.

And yet, if it would take a couple of days to find this, you say
there'd be no charge for doing the diagnostics for this. By CompUSA.
Amazing.

Pathetic, really.

Oops, hit a nerve, eh?

Have you the remotest concept of what a
spectacular fool you are making of yourself, Funk ?

Not yet. Try explaining in detail how you have figured out that
CompUSA installed the drive, and that they were doing warranty work on
it. And how, desoite this, they insist the system came in with a 40
gig drive, when the OP had the receipt that showed (according to you)
that they had installed the drive.
Go ahead, humiliate me by showing all this.

Obviously not, even you cant actually be that stupid.

Most of the lower cost operations that flog hard drives.

What was obviously being discussed there
was operations THAT SELL HARD DRIVES.

Do at least TRY to keep up, Funk.

Keep up?
CompUSA has every reason to charge for diagnostic work, than charging
for the cure, too. Especially when people bring them their systems for
diagnostic work.
Or are you trying to saythat CompUSA is a charitable organization, who
does work for free?

And plenty of operations make money flogging the
hard drives and clone them for free because its so
damned easy to do if you know what you are doing.

Not CompUSA.

The word IF is there for a reason, Funk.

You brought up a warranty claim, not me.
Backpeddling now is useless.

Now you are clearly lying.

Yet you say so.
That's the crux of your argument here.

I never ever said anything like that,
particularly with warranty claims.

What warranty claims?
Lose sight of the ball?
There's no warranty claim here, much as you'd like there to be one to
account for the lack of charging for work done.

Fraid it does if you have paid for the 80GB drive to be
installed and it then bsods or freezes every couple of days.

That's a big "if". It doesn't apply here.
I can understand you're flogging the warranty claim, though. It's the
only way you can back upo your argument. The problem is, there's no
warranty involved.

Pathetic, really.

No, it really is! Look in the phone book!

If you have paid for the 80GB drive to be installed
and it then bsods or freezes every couple of days...

Another "if". It would be nice if it applied here.

Now you clearly are a liar.

Say that often enough,and even you'll believe it.

You wont be able to point to even a single example
of me ever saying no one charges for this work.

Pointless pointing it out to your, you're just a pathological liar.

You really are a hoot!
Other than a lot of "if" attempts, you've not backed up any part of
your argument.

Another lie.

Another lie.

Try again.
That's your whole argument.

Why take any noticed of a pathological liar like you, Funk ?

Hmmm, maybe that "pathological liar" is you, since you keep trying to
sayt that "if" is a truth.

He clearly said that was an upgrade.

Yes, he did.
What he clearly did NOT say is that CompUSA did the upgrade.

More of your pathological lying.

Try again. Thius time stick to the fascts.

Pathetic, really.

You're right.
It really is pathetic that you resort to personal attacks when you
don't get your way.

No one takes any notice of proven pathological liar, Funk.

Prove I'm lying when I say that you've been flogging a warranty issue
to explain no charging for diagnostic work done.

Rod Speed · Oct 19, 2003

Some pathological liar claiming to be

See what I mean?
Oh, no, you don't.
THAT'S pathetic.