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Jeff said:
You believe in Java and Santa Claus, not me.

And that is just one example of why
there are no shortcuts to cross-platform coding.
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Then you must support Linux, which is compiled to each individual CPU.
Right?

Or else, would you not suspect a /compiled-once/ /run-anywhere/ operating
system such as Windows?
 
Jeff said:
You believe in Java and Santa Claus, not me.

And that is just one example of why
there are no shortcuts to cross-platform coding.
Click to expand...

Then you must support Linux, which is compiled to each individual CPU.
Right?

Or else, would you not suspect a compiled-once run-anywhere operating
system such as Windows?
 
Hi Tony LoBianco ( Johhny ),

Re: Java's myth of portability.

You wrote,
" Then you must support Linux,
which is compiled to each individual CPU. Right ?

" So why wouldn't you reject
a compiled-once run-anywhere operating system
such as Windows ? "

I write programs for two reasons:
1. For my own personal computer, and
2. Professionally, for other Windows users.

Number 2 is something I have little control over.

Sure Windows XP sucks,
but custom code more than makes up for that,
the OS is mostly irrelevant.

What does matter is the development system,
and the devices it supports.

And Windows XP has Linux beat in that area.
( As far as I can tell )

P.S.
Yet again, It's way past my curfew,
I'll be signing off soon.
 
Jeff said:
What does matter is the development system,
and the devices it supports.
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Other than Visual Studio ( which you don't use ) every major development
platform for Windopes exists in Linux.

And yet, you fail to answer the question.

You rant and rave about code /compiling/ on each hardware device, but when I
casually mention that Linux is compiled to the individual's hardware -- you
turn and walk away.

Do angels whisper in your ear? Or is that just bad drugs?
 
Tony said:
Other than Visual Studio ( which you don't use ) every major
development platform for Windopes exists in Linux.

And yet, you fail to answer the question.

You rant and rave about code /compiling/ on each hardware device, but
when I casually mention that Linux is compiled to the individual's
hardware -- you turn and walk away.
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Why shouldn't he walk away from you, you ****tard? There is a subtle
difference between _is_ and _can be_. Maybe you'd like to give it another
go, you self-defeating, shaking hose bag? Hmmm?
 
Guys ... this is really just noise in the
microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb and comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
groups - I really don't see how this or any of your previous postings relate
in any way to visual basic. Could you help improve the S/N ratio and please
drop the ms and basic groups for future discussions/rants?

--

Randy Birch
MVP Visual Basic
http://vbnet.mvps.org/
Please respond only to the newsgroups so all can benefit.


: Hi Raghar,
:
: Re: How to do full-window painting
: for a high-res maximized window,
: when the taskbar turns on the cursor,
: thus dropping junk on that window,
: as it hoards all the mouse messages.
:
: You wrote,
: " Cite from mickerosoft documentation.
: After someone aquires input device in exclusive mode,
: windoze don't know where they should draw a cursor,
: so they won't draw any cursor. "
:
: That's quite true, and I've actually tried that...
: Have you ?
:
: The problem is that the the cursor still must be drawn...
: Would you draw on the taskbar ? Huh ? I want to know.
:
: Did you know that the mouse messages are
: _ Still _ hoarded by the taskbar,
: even when the input is captured as you described ?
:
: Maybe you read the documentation, maybe...
: but that just makes you stupid. I tested it, so I know.
:
: You believe in Java and Santa Claus, not me.
:
: And that is just one example of why
: there are no shortcuts to cross-platform coding.
: And one more reason why Java is a very bad joke.
: ( " Visual " programming being another... Shudder )
:
: Re: How the system cursor prevents VRAM-to-VRAM blts.
:
: You commented,
: " cite from NVIDIA.
: This graphic card supports hardware cursor with full
: alpha up to xxxxxx pixels. "
:
: Drawing cursors are no big deal.
:
: So long as at least one fiftieth of a second has passed,
: I draw the entire full screen window ( hi res )
: every time the mouse moves...
: I works like a dream, never a delay to scroll a dump.
: So any delays must be due to something else...
: Like waiting for data from a server.
:
: It looks kind of like the following ( C++ ),
: This is the event loop:
:
: #define LOOP while ( 1 )
:
: LOOP {
: LOOP { Paint_Maybe();
: if( ! ShowTime ||
: PeekMessage( & Msg, 0,0,0, PM_NOREMOVE ) ) break ; }
: GetMessage( & Msg, 0,0,0);
: TranslateMessage( & Msg ); DispatchMessage( & Msg );
: ....
:
: This is Paint_Maybe(),
:
: typedef LARGE_INTEGER Quad ;
:
: double Secnd_Dub, _Secs ;
:
: __int64 _Tics, Secnd ;
:
: // QueryPerformanceFrequency( ( Quad * ) & Secnd );
: // Secnd_Dub = Secnd ;
:
: #define Tics \
: ( QueryPerformanceCounter( ( Quad * ) & _Tics ), _Tics )
:
: #define Secs ( _Secs = Tics / Secnd_Dub )
:
: Paint_Maybe () { static double Next ;
: if ( Secs < Next ) { Sleep( 0 ); return; }
: Next = _Secs + 1 / 50. ;
: In_Taskbar(); // This is too complex to describe here.
: if ( ! Paint_Req || ! ShowTime ) return;
: Sur_Draw->Blt(
: & Rec_Me, 0,0, DDBLT_COLORFILL, & ErBlack );
: WriteTxt( 0, 0, Bar );
: ....
:
: You wrote,
: " Common knowledge would also say to us that
: preferred method of graphic
: manipulation is a page flipping. "
:
: I am drawing to a back buffer,
: and I would page flip,
: but I don't want to draw on the taskbar
: and I only have 8 megs of VRAM... Not enough.
:
: My crappy PC emulates having 64 megs by
: using " shared system memory ".
:
: All the video stuff is on my Intel motherboard,
: not a card.
:
 
Randy said:
Guys ... this is really just noise in the
microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb and comp.lang.basic.visual.misc
groups - I really don't see how this or any of your previous postings
relate in any way to visual basic. Could you help improve the S/N ratio
and please drop the ms and basic groups for future discussions/rants?
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Keep your FUD out of our newsgroup, troll.
 
Hi Tony LoBianco,

You think I don't use Visual Studio 6 ?

I do, I just never use the visual part.
All my windows are created by hand,
using things like SystemParametersInfo().
( See )

And now that I have XP,
I should see if I can get new SDK's on CD's.

The .NET development system sucks,
from what I've heard.

You commented,
" You rant and rave about
code Compiling on each hardware device,
but when I casually mention that
Linux is compiled to the individual's hardware --
you turn and walk away. "

I agree, that's a fantastic feature of Linux.

But, just like you, my job requires Windows.

I haven't really tested other development systems,
but I didn't like the Gnu stuff that I saw.

And Linux simply doesn't offer
the same range and quality of devices and software.
 
Jörn W. Janneck said:
if you want your average programmer to be as qualified as your average
customer service representative, sure.
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The other option is to outsource to places with lower wages
and trained developers.
 
Hi Herfried,

Please do not answer this messages.
You gave me once the advise now you get it back from me.

It adds nothing to this communitiy in my opinion.

Cor
 
* "Cor Ligthert said:
Please do not answer this messages.
You gave me once the advise now you get it back from me.

It adds nothing to this communitiy in my opinion.
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LOL -- but it shows us how friendly those Java guys are.

;-)
 
* WiFanatic said:
Non of this applies to LINUX.

Please stop your TROLL and LEAVE our newsgroup, Herfriend.
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It seems that you missed the fact that the thread has been crossposted
to the MSFT public newsgroups where the terms of conduct apply. So
please don't include these groups when replying to the message. Thank
you!

Just my 2 Euro cents...
 
Herfried said:
It seems that you missed the fact that the thread has been crossposted
to the MSFT public newsgroups where the terms of conduct apply.
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All I see is a lot of messages from you that have *NOTHING* to do with
Linux, Linux Advocacy or languages like mono.

In the future, would all of you contribute something more pertinent. It
would represent you and your Company.

Sincerely,
Got Monkeys?
 
Got said:
All I see is a lot of messages from you that have *NOTHING* to do with
Linux, Linux Advocacy or languages like mono.

In the future, would all of you contribute something more pertinent. It
would represent you and your Company.

Sincerely,
Got Monkeys?
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It would be really nice if we could uninvent cross posting. As it is I
only know where I am reading the message not where other participants
(or complainers) are reading it. So if I want to reply to Mr Relf I have
to reply to all newsgroups. However it is possible to set follow ups,
but it this is easy to forget (and trolls of course don't do it on
principle).

I have set follow ups on this message, but as there probably be no
replies it isn't likely to help.
Oh well.

Mark Thornton
 
* Got Monkeys ? said:
In the future, would all of you contribute something more pertinent.
It would represent you and your Company.
Click to expand...

What company?!

EOT
 
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