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Bobby Fischler
Neil Maxwell said:
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Ron Reaugh
Neil Maxwell said:Yes, if you want to be 100% non-invasive, imaging from the boot disk
will do it. If it won't go across the 'net, a USB external drive
provides the lowest-risk backup.
OR an SATA drive in a removable tray.
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Neil Maxwell
OR an SATA drive in a removable tray.
They've had some issues with SATA drives, though they're releasing an
updated version that they claim will clear up some of the problems. I
don't run SATA, so I have no first-hand experience, but it's been a
common question on their support board. I believe the odds of success
are better with USB or FW.
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Al Dykes
They've had some issues with SATA drives, though they're releasing an
updated version that they claim will clear up some of the problems. I
don't run SATA, so I have no first-hand experience, but it's been a
common question on their support board. I believe the odds of success
are better with USB or FW.
I've had zero luck so far trying to burn a TI image to a USB-connected
CD from the the boot disk.
I haven't tried from XP but since burning 10 CDs to backup my machine
isn't much fun, and I don't trust CDs, anyway, I set myself up to
backup all my machines to a 160B disk in one desktop. I back the
decktop's C drive to that disk, also. I can keep a couple generations
of 3 machines on this disk. High compression is great.
I've sucessfully restored over ethernet and disk-to-disk
from the TI boot CD.
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Ron Reaugh
Neil Maxwell said:They've had some issues with SATA drives,
Who says and don't cite that tiny discredited website that has NO
substantiation?
though they're releasing an
updated version that they claim will clear up some of the problems.
Nonsense. Who is they?
I
don't run SATA, so I have no first-hand experience,
Didn't think so.
but it's been a
common question on their support board. I believe the odds of success
are better with USB or FW.
Clueless.
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Neil Maxwell
I've had zero luck so far trying to burn a TI image to a USB-connected
CD from the the boot disk.
If you want to determine if it's the USB controller or the CD that's
the problem, you could connect a USB HD to the same port and see if it
recognizes it. It's handled all the various USB and FW controllers
I've tried, but I haven't attempted to go direct to CD or DVD. I've
had more luck with Ghost burning direct to CD, but it has enough other
drawbacks that I don't use it.
I haven't tried from XP but since burning 10 CDs to backup my machine
isn't much fun, and I don't trust CDs, anyway, I set myself up to
backup all my machines to a 160B disk in one desktop. I back the
decktop's C drive to that disk, also. I can keep a couple generations
of 3 machines on this disk. High compression is great.
DVD burners are getting cheap now, and help that a lot. The long-term
lifetimes of CD and DVD are not reliable, but for multi-generation
short-term backups, the risk is pretty low. Still, using a HD makes
everything much simpler and more transparent.
My preference is to burn backups to another HD, like you do, and limit
them to 4.5G, then copy those to DVD now and again to have an off-disk
backup.
I've sucessfully restored over ethernet and disk-to-disk
from the TI boot CD.
Yep, it's pretty durn effective with supported hardware. I'm a
convert.
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Neil Maxwell
I've had zero luck so far trying to burn a TI image to a USB-connected
CD from the the boot disk.
Hmm... Interestingly, their new updated release is now TI8. Not much
detail on their web about the differences; many of the docs are
search-and-replace TI7 conversions.
It allows exclusion of hibernate and paging files and changing of the
process priority, as well as having better built-in verification.
I'll let the early adopters run it around a bit first.
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Bobby Fischler
Neil Maxwell said:I buy most of my hardware from www.newegg.com these days, but there's
a lot to be said for a local vendor if there's not a big price
difference. Returns are much quicker and easier, if necessary.
I able able to use the TI 7.0 boot disk and NT/Acronis see the WD 120
Gig external (E) drive plugged into the 1.1 USB.
1. I select Disk Clone in TI 7.0.
2. TI sees the internal drives on the Old HP and sees the WD External.
3. It says I have some partitions on the WD external - it is brand
new. Says it has to wipe them to proceed. No problem because the ext
drive is empty.
4. I get to the final step. Has the Source and Target selected
correctly. It asks me 3 choices. Wipe the old drive, make some
changes (??) or leave source alone. I obviously want to leave the C
source drive alone but it mentions that by leaving alone I can store
the old drive like put it in a box??? I just want to copy the data
from the C Pavilion drive to the E WD External. I don't want to
disturb the C at all. Comments?
I want an exact clone on the external. Once I have that I will open
the old HP Pavilion and put in a second Internal and back that up too.
Am I doing it right or do I want to "Create an Image."
Also: Western Digital says be extra careful when unplugging the
External from the machine. It says use the XP "Eject Hardware" icon.
NT 4.0 SP 6 does not have such an icon. Do I power down the HP
machine then power down the external drive and then unplug and unplug
the USB?
Anyone know if Acronis will let me pay them $40 a hour or something to
walk me through for 10 minutes?
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Al Dykes
I able able to use the TI 7.0 boot disk and NT/Acronis see the WD 120
Gig external (E) drive plugged into the 1.1 USB.
1. I select Disk Clone in TI 7.0.
2. TI sees the internal drives on the Old HP and sees the WD External.
3. It says I have some partitions on the WD external - it is brand
new. Says it has to wipe them to proceed. No problem because the ext
drive is empty.
4. I get to the final step. Has the Source and Target selected
correctly. It asks me 3 choices. Wipe the old drive, make some
changes (??) or leave source alone. I obviously want to leave the C
source drive alone but it mentions that by leaving alone I can store
the old drive like put it in a box??? I just want to copy the data
from the C Pavilion drive to the E WD External. I don't want to
disturb the C at all. Comments?
I want an exact clone on the external. Once I have that I will open
the old HP Pavilion and put in a second Internal and back that up too.
Am I doing it right or do I want to "Create an Image."
Also: Western Digital says be extra careful when unplugging the
External from the machine. It says use the XP "Eject Hardware" icon.
NT 4.0 SP 6 does not have such an icon. Do I power down the HP
machine then power down the external drive and then unplug and unplug
the USB?
Anyone know if Acronis will let me pay them $40 a hour or something to
walk me through for 10 minutes?
Gack!!! Nt40 (Actually NT40 did lots of good work for me.)
Maybe the old hardware you're running has USB problems. I can't
believe it's USB2 and In my experience USB1 runs at about
1 MB/sec.
I've lost track of our goal here. Is it to migrate data to anothe r
machine or to do backups, or something else.
I'd put the 120GB disk on an IDE controller in the machine
and boot TI and image your machine that way.
Try plugging your USB/120GB disk into the newest machine
you can get your hands on and see if you can boot TI
and image the C drive.
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Artless Malefactor
My WD hard drive came with a cd-rom of utilities that includes
copying lots of files from the old HD to the new HD, including
cloning the old one if you want to make the new HD your boot drive.
If you didn't get any utilities in the box, contact your customer support
copying lots of files from the old HD to the new HD, including
cloning the old one if you want to make the new HD your boot drive.
If you didn't get any utilities in the box, contact your customer support
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Michael Hawes
Bobby Fischler said:I buy most of my hardware from www.newegg.com these days, but there's
a lot to be said for a local vendor if there's not a big price
difference. Returns are much quicker and easier, if necessary.
I able able to use the TI 7.0 boot disk and NT/Acronis see the WD 120
Gig external (E) drive plugged into the 1.1 USB.
1. I select Disk Clone in TI 7.0.
2. TI sees the internal drives on the Old HP and sees the WD External.
3. It says I have some partitions on the WD external - it is brand
new. Says it has to wipe them to proceed. No problem because the ext
drive is empty.
4. I get to the final step. Has the Source and Target selected
correctly. It asks me 3 choices. Wipe the old drive, make some
changes (??) or leave source alone. I obviously want to leave the C
source drive alone but it mentions that by leaving alone I can store
the old drive like put it in a box??? I just want to copy the data
from the C Pavilion drive to the E WD External. I don't want to
disturb the C at all. Comments?
I want an exact clone on the external. Once I have that I will open
the old HP Pavilion and put in a second Internal and back that up too.
Am I doing it right or do I want to "Create an Image."
Also: Western Digital says be extra careful when unplugging the
External from the machine. It says use the XP "Eject Hardware" icon.
NT 4.0 SP 6 does not have such an icon. Do I power down the HP
machine then power down the external drive and then unplug and unplug
the USB?
Anyone know if Acronis will let me pay them $40 a hour or something to
walk me through for 10 minutes?[/QUOTE]
Where did you get USB driver for NT4? USB1.1 will take AGES! Why can't you
just plug in extra IDE drive and clone to that?
Mike.
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Al Dykes
Where did you get USB driver for NT4? USB1.1 will take AGES! Why can't you
just plug in extra IDE drive and clone to that?
Mike.
He's booting the TI7 cdrom which is very modern software that
supports USB. NT4 is out of the loop. I agree
it'll be slow.
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Bobby Fischler
Gack!!! Nt40 (Actually NT40 did lots of good work for me.)
Maybe the old hardware you're running has USB problems. I can't
believe it's USB2 and In my experience USB1 runs at about
1 MB/sec.
I've lost track of our goal here. Is it to migrate data to anothe r
machine or to do backups, or something else.
I'd put the 120GB disk on an IDE controller in the machine
and boot TI and image your machine that way.
Try plugging your USB/120GB disk into the newest machine
you can get your hands on and see if you can boot TI
and image the C drive.
Thanks for your patience and kindness.
I am all set on the USB 1.1.
I am trying to just make a back up copy/image to the external. My
goal is if the old machine or hard drive dies - I have the exact image
& settings. I want the old machine and hard drive to be left alone to
keep running.
I thought I wanted Disk Clone but I think I really want Create Image.
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Bobby Fischler
Michael Hawes said:Where did you get USB driver for NT4? USB1.1 will take AGES! Why can't you
just plug in extra IDE drive and clone to that?
Mike.
I wanted to make a exact image before I opened the machine and
connected a dupe IDE. Using the TI 7.0 boot disk, it sees the USB 1.1
in NT 4.0 - I am all set there. I need to copy/exact image about 15
gig.
Once I have this done I will shut down, open her up and plug in an
extra IDE. Just trying to be extra careful.