Anyone use Acronis Drive Image 7.0?

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Will Dormann said:
If you want a backup system for that particular machine, then put
another hard drive in the system and image to that. Should your main
drive fail (or a virus hits or whatever), you'll have a backup image on
your secondary drive.

If you want the drive to be usable in more than one system (or just want
to be able to swap out the drive), then get a removable drive bay along
with the drive.


-WD
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The machine I am running is a 3 to 4 year old HP Pavilion with NT 4.0
SP6.

I would like to image using Acronis 7.0 to a new machine and keep the
new spare as the back up or maybe the old one as the back up.

The problem is if I go out and buy a new Dell or HP - I can take the
new drive out and copy an image with Acronis.

If I plug the new drive in - I will have hardware problems or will I?

If I will have hardware problems should I:

1. Try to find a used old Pavilion of the same model?

2. Open the old Pavilion and try to find the motherboard, BIOS and
chip set? Is HP motherboard and stuff proprietary?

Thanks for any input.
 
FransHals said:
The machine I am running is a 3 to 4 year old HP Pavilion with NT 4.0
SP6.

I would like to image using Acronis 7.0 to a new machine and keep the
new spare as the back up or maybe the old one as the back up.

The problem is if I go out and buy a new Dell or HP - I can take the
new drive out and copy an image with Acronis.

If I plug the new drive in - I will have hardware problems or will I?
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You probably will. Forget about trying to match the hardware. If
you back up the system with TrueImage (or whatever), all your data will
be there.

If the hardware changes are significant enough that the OS won't even
boot, then you can try doing an "in-place" OS installation over top of
what you've got and it should detect any new hardware. Or just install
whatever OS you like cleanly and then extract the important files from
the TrueImage backup file.


-WD
 
If it is SCSI or RAID, the system will not boot unless the adapter is moved to
the new system. IDE will have no problems, unless you aren't using Microsoft
ATAPI.
 
It is IDE. Thanks guys. I should have the (paid for) copies of NT
4.0 SP 6 if I need to install NT as he other fellow mentioned. I
guess I can also probably buy a copy on eBay.
 
Or just install
whatever OS you like cleanly and then extract the important files from
the TrueImage backup file.
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This is the technique I use when I help non-techies upgrade. Back up
the existing system to an image, perform a clean install of the new
OS, and install an extra backup drive, either internal or external.
The image of the old system stays on the backup drive, where they can
mount it and browse stuff they've discovered missing. It works well,
and is easy to walk someone through.
 
Neil Maxwell said:
This is the technique I use when I help non-techies upgrade. Back up
the existing system to an image, perform a clean install of the new
OS, and install an extra backup drive, either internal or external.
The image of the old system stays on the backup drive, where they can
mount it and browse stuff they've discovered missing. It works well,
and is easy to walk someone through.
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Many, many thanks to you guys.
 
Neil Maxwell said:
This is the technique I use when I help non-techies upgrade. Back up
the existing system to an image, perform a clean install of the new
OS, and install an extra backup drive, either internal or external.
The image of the old system stays on the backup drive, where they can
mount it and browse stuff they've discovered missing. It works well,
and is easy to walk someone through.
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For the spare machine should I get a $349 Dell desktop or one of their
$399 servers.

They will actually come out and copy over 3 gig of selected files for
$85 but I have more than that.
 
For the spare machine should I get a $349 Dell desktop or one of their
$399 servers.

They will actually come out and copy over 3 gig of selected files for
$85 but I have more than that.
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I don't see any info about a USB on the server. I assume the desktop
will have it. The server also does not have an O/S. Can I copy over
the NT 4.0 SP 6 in my image from he other machine. I guess I could
plug in the Dell drive in the Old HP Pavilion hough I really don't
want to take the HP apart.
 
FransHals said:
(e-mail address removed) (FransHals) wrote in message


I don't see any info about a USB on the server. I assume the desktop
will have it. The server also does not have an O/S. Can I copy over
the NT 4.0 SP 6 in my image from he other machine. I guess I could
plug in the Dell drive in the Old HP Pavilion hough I really don't
want to take the HP apart.
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I presume you're talking about the 400SC (which incidentally starts at
$249US at the moment). Has 6 USB 2.0 ports.

Comparing that with the Dimension 2400, which I presume is the "$349 Dell
desktop", the 400SC holds 4 gig ECC RAM vs 1 gig non-ECC on the Dimension,
the 400SC has Rage XL video vs Intel integrated on the 2400. The 400SC has
2 3.5" internal bays vs 1 on the 2400. The 400SC doesn't include an
OS--the ones available are 2K/2K3 server variants and RedHat Linux, all for
server OS prices.

While you may be able to get your NT4 to run on it, there's no USB support
in NT and you'll be running the chipset on generic drivers.

Personally if I was forced to go with one of those two machines I'd go with
the 400SC, but for me the OS is not an issue at the moment.
 
J. Clarke said:
I presume you're talking about the 400SC (which incidentally starts at
$249US at the moment). Has 6 USB 2.0 ports.

Comparing that with the Dimension 2400, which I presume is the "$349 Dell
desktop", the 400SC holds 4 gig ECC RAM vs 1 gig non-ECC on the Dimension,
the 400SC has Rage XL video vs Intel integrated on the 2400. The 400SC has
2 3.5" internal bays vs 1 on the 2400. The 400SC doesn't include an
OS--the ones available are 2K/2K3 server variants and RedHat Linux, all for
server OS prices.

While you may be able to get your NT4 to run on it, there's no USB support
in NT and you'll be running the chipset on generic drivers.

Personally if I was forced to go with one of those two machines I'd go with
the 400SC, but for me the OS is not an issue at the moment.
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Thanks.
 
JPD said:
(e-mail address removed) (Al Dykes) wrote"

Not mine. It won't write to my SATA 36 GB Raptors.
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What controller exactly is the 36GB Raptor attached to? How does it fail,
please?
 
Ron Reaugh said:
What controller exactly is the 36GB Raptor attached to? How does it fail,
please?
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The controller is integrated in ICH5R on the MSI 875P Neo_FISR
motherboard:
http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=875p_Neo-FISR&class=mb

The error message occurs when I try to restore any image I make with
TI7. I open TI7 in Windows, execute the first several steps in the
restoration procedure, then hit the PROCEED button. Immediately comes
the error message: "Failed to write to the sector 0 of the hard disk
2."

Thank you for responding!
 
Neil Maxwell said:
There's a very good chance the True Image boot disk will recognize
your USB1.1 port and allow you to make a non-invasive backup from
this. I've done this several times on systems with old OS's. Power
down, plug in the external USB drive, boot to the TI cd or floppies,
and back up directly to the external drive. Slow, compared to USB2,
but very low risk.
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This sounds stupid but do I load Acronis True Image 7.0 on the old
machine or do I just use the True Image boot disk that I made?

Do I "back up" or run the True Image "disk clone" or "create image."

Thanks for your help.


Once I have the Image (backup) on the Western Digital external - I
want to open the Pavilion and put and second drive in and image that.

Finally, I will remove the new Dell machines drive and plug it in to
image.
I will then put it in the Dell and hope it boots. Acronis suggests
going to MSFT and has some suggestions on making it work on different
hardware.

I may also call Dell to see if they will come out to do imaging.
 
Learn to read first off.

Bobby Fischler said:
There's a very good chance the True Image boot disk will recognize
your USB1.1 port and allow you to make a non-invasive backup from
this. I've done this several times on systems with old OS's. Power
down, plug in the external USB drive, boot to the TI cd or floppies,
and back up directly to the external drive. Slow, compared to USB2,
but very low risk.
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This sounds stupid but do I load Acronis True Image 7.0 on the old
machine or do I just use the True Image boot disk that I made?

Do I "back up" or run the True Image "disk clone" or "create image."

Thanks for your help.


Once I have the Image (backup) on the Western Digital external - I
want to open the Pavilion and put and second drive in and image that.

Finally, I will remove the new Dell machines drive and plug it in to
image.
I will then put it in the Dell and hope it boots. Acronis suggests
going to MSFT and has some suggestions on making it work on different
hardware.

I may also call Dell to see if they will come out to do imaging.[/QUOTE]
 
Will Dormann said:
TrueImage is a great program.
Incremental backups, scheduling, Linux filesystem support, and native
"Network Neighborhood" support are a few of my favorite features.

The only place you might run into a snag is that since the recovery CD
is Linux-based, you might have trouble if you have some hardware which
isn't supported by Linux.

I question your "cloning" backup strategy, though. First, cloning is
intended for use between drives in a single machine. Even if you could
get some way to clone across machines, the hardware would need to be
pretty much the same between the machines. And I'm sure you'll
probably run into licensing/activation issues with XP if that's your OS.

Wouldn't it make more sense to do an "Image" backup. That way you can
take advantage of the scheduling, incremental, and other features of
TrueImage. Plus you can keep multiple levels of backups, depending on
your storage availability and backup needs. Heck, you can even
dispense with the whole older machine. Save on power costs, if that's
all that you'd be using it for. Just get an external USB2 or Firewire
drive. (Or even a spare internal drive)


-WD
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How do I get it to the new machine? You say dispense with the older
machine. ???

I talked to Dell and they said that cloning from the old HP Pavilion
to the new Dell 400 SC will not work because of the hardware
differences. I am running NT 4.0 SP 6.

Acronis says:

"If the new machine hardware configuration differs from the old one,
than you should use sysprep utility before backup creation.

Please read the following article:
http://www.acronis.com/products/trueimage/faq.html#17"
 
doS said:
Learn to read first off.
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Thanks for the non help. I am lerry about putting True Image 7.0 on
the old machine as I don't want any regsitries changed. I doubt TI
7.0 will do that but if I can use the boot disk it would be better. I
loaded Nero on another machine once and it fouled up the registries.
 
Bobby Fischler said:
"doS" <[email protected]> wrote in message

Thanks for the non help. I am lerry about putting True Image 7.0 on
the old machine as I don't want any regsitries changed.
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Anytime you install a program, the registry changes.


I doubt TI
7.0 will do that but if I can use the boot disk it would be better.
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Ok, but wouldn't you have to install TI on the machine to create the
bootdisk...

I
loaded Nero on another machine once and it fouled up the registries.
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I doubt Nero fouled up anything. Make sure the machine meets the
requirements.
 
Thanks for the non help. I am lerry about putting True Image 7.0 on
the old machine as I don't want any regsitries changed. I doubt TI
7.0 will do that but if I can use the boot disk it would be better. I
loaded Nero on another machine once and it fouled up the registries.
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If you boot TI from the CD it's not going to make ANY changes to
the disk. With luck it will recognize your ethernet card and you
will be able to image to another machine, or if you have two disks
you can image from one to the other.
 
If you boot TI from the CD it's not going to make ANY changes to
the disk. With luck it will recognize your ethernet card and you
will be able to image to another machine, or if you have two disks
you can image from one to the other.
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Yes, if you want to be 100% non-invasive, imaging from the boot disk
will do it. If it won't go across the 'net, a USB external drive
provides the lowest-risk backup.
 
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