So you would rather have a PSU fail (at an inconvenient moment)
have to take it out of the case, box it up, call for an RMA number,
address the box, and either call UPS or take it to UPS yourself.
*ON TOP* of the shipping charges. Your time must not be worth
very much. And, if no spare was handy, you'd have a dead computer
while your "bargain" PSU was repaired and sent back to you.
And, of course you compare the *retail* price of the
PCP&C unit to the discounted Internet price of this other PSU when
you talk about this massive premium. OK...
And what tells you that the three PCP&C PSUs pictured (I'll take
your word that they're PCP&C PSUs) were manufactured by Seasonic?
You have posted URLs for pictures that somebody labeled as "360"
and "410" on the heatsinks, and are comparing them with another
PSU only labeled as "PC Modding Malaysia" with different heatsinks
(is that the one you say is a Seasonic?) and are saying that *this*
is proof that the Silencer 610 is actually a Seasonic S12-600?
That is a stretch even for you. Please explain your "logic."
In other words, that's all you got.
kony said:Yes, one was a Seasonic, the other two the corresponding PC
P&C products I typed right after the links, same as was
written on their 'sinks.
kony said:Actually, the ENTIRE WORLD prefers this, because the chance
of it happening is so remote relative to the cost savings.
I compare actual purchase price.
I encouraged you to link a competitive price but you didn't.
You can't even recognize a PC P&C PSU?
I give up, we have nothing more to discuss.
Ah, now you are speaking for the ENTIRE WORLD. Apparently, the
world disagrees, as premium PSU vendors flourish.
Yes. RETAIL purchase price for the PCP&C PSU versus discounted web
price for the Seasonic. Hardly a fair comparison, and you know it.
I posted a link to a vendor that sold BOTH units (an orange/orange
comparison) and invited you to do the same. The PCP&C Silencer 610
was $4 cheaper than the Seasonic S12-600. Can you find any vendors
that carry BOTH PSUs that charge much more for the PCP&C PSU?
Your reading disorder surfaces again. I said that I'd take your word
that the supplies are PCP&C supplies, although there is nothing in
the photos identifying them as such. Besides, according to you they
are actually rebadged Seasonic supplies. Hell, they could be
SS-400HS Active PFC units for all the pictures show.
Don't go away yet. You haven't admitted you were wrong yet.
But NONE of them are the Silencer 610, are they?
So the question
remains (and you keep avoiding it)
where is your evidence that
the Silencer 610 is actually a Seasonic S12-600?
Why are you avoiding answering this?
kony said:The only possible fair price comparison is what we can
ACTUALLY BUY, ACTUALLY PAY. Your random thoughts are
nonsense if not followed by real examples of a product that
can be purchased.
Pretty weak argument you're making, do you have a gun to
your head so you could only purchase from this one vendor?
If not, it's quite irrelevant whether a vendor carries both.
You are such a confused person.
kony said:Yes, one was a direct link from the PC P&C product page for
the Silencer 610.
... don't you mean that you keep denying reality?
Here's something for you to ponder:
If it weren't, that still doesn't support your notion of it
being worth more $,
which I have already demonstrated is the
case with several REAL EXAMPLES of products that can be
purchased.
The only possible fair price comparison is by using a vendor who
sells both products,
thereby ensuring equal overhead, etc.
You
have yet to provide such a site where the Silencer 610 sells
for more than the Seasonic S12-600. I have provided a URL that
sells them both, and the PCP&C product was $4 cheaper than the
Seasonic product.
You evidently haven't clicked on that link. And which photo is of
the Seasonic? The one labeled "PC Modding Malaysia" ?? And which
model Seasonic is that?
kony said:Nope, and you know you're wrong.
A buyer does not care what kind of arbitrary stipulations
you want to pose, they'll buy where they choose to.
It's sad that you now grasp at straws.
Do you really believe anyone out there is going to feel it's
necessary to buy either of these units from a place that
sells both? Of course not, all we have to care about is the
bottom line.
When you go to buy a car, is it necessary that the dealer
sells both Toyota and Honda for you to make a price
comparison?
It seems that now even you concede you are wrong and without
any reasonable argument, pose this silly requirement. We
both know better and you're now trolling.
kony said:You pretend to have knowledge about PC P&C units but can't
even recognize their link, can't even recognize a picture of
one, and most funny is you can't tell whether the pictures
are Seasonic or PC P&C while arguing there is no evidence
they're made by same company.
LOL
Wasn't it a clue when I POSTED THE MODEL NUMBER WITH THE
LINK?
Are you stupid?
You continue to edit out the truth.
LOL.
Nope.
Comparing the relative expense
of two similar items, ...
...and the actual purchasing of the items, are
TWO SEPARATE THINGS. Would you compare the price of one cereal at
a discount supermarket with the price of a different cereal at a
7-11 type convenience store? Of course not.
You'd compare the prices
at the same store.
I've never said I could identify a PCP&C PSU from a photo of a
PSU with its cover removed.
As far as recognizing a link, what
does that mean? The tiny PSU pictured in the URL you gave could
be anything. I'm supposed to *assume* it's a Silencer 610? Because
you say so? Your original message *and* the URL identify it as a
Silencer 470. Forget what you posted?
MESSAGE-ID <[email protected]>
I contend that there is little or no evidence that the PSUs in
your second URL (the ones marked "360" and "410" were made by
the same manufacturer as the PSU in the first URL (PC Modding Malaysia.)
You continue to edit out the truth.
LOL.
Nope.
Comparing the relative expense
of two similar items, ...
...and the actual purchasing of the items, are
TWO SEPARATE THINGS. Would you compare the price of one cereal at
a discount supermarket with the price of a different cereal at a
7-11 type convenience store? Of course not.
You'd compare the prices
at the same store.
Exactly. Please don't cross post to (alt.comp.hardware),
kill two trolls (kony and Rod Speed) with one stone.
kony said:LOL.
Nope.
Well now we're getting somewhere, you've admitted they're
similar.
If buying a power supply,
...I'd compare the price of each
contender at any and all places I'd consider buying a power
supply from.
IT DOES NOT GET ANY MORE RELEVANT THAN THAT.
kony said:Fortunately you didn't have to, because I'd mentioned what
they were.
However, the picture in question was linked from
PC P&C product page so there's really no excuse for
ignorance about it, and further, anyone with half a clue
could see the link had the PC Power & Cooling website URL in
it. These are very basic things which you are subjectively
choosing to ignore because they don't support your half
baked arguments.
Did you go to the PC Power & Cooling website ever in your
life?
If so, you'd notice there are links... dare I suggest
you do the tiniest bit of research on what you already
pretend to be knowledgeable about?
Ok, I'm content with your contention and apathy now ends my
post.