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and that would probly cost more than a new MB! its not 1965 anymore
these days we junk and buy a new one.
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and that would probly cost more than a new MB! its not 1965 anymore
these days we junk and buy a new one.
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Rod Speed
and that would probly cost more than a new MB! its not
1965 anymore these days we junk and buy a new one.
Not everyone does, most obviously with bad caps.
J
JAD
Folkert Rienstra said:That happens when the driver is not loaded.
also when a user disables all bootable devices except the CD rom then
removes the bootable CD.
R
RussellS
Folkert Rienstra said:in message
Nonsense. Either they support CS or they don't. There is no such
preference.
All that is needed is that the CS line is grounded at the MB connector.
Don't these 2 sentences basically say the same thing? Not being sure
whether his controller card supports CS, it was suggested that he use the
Master/Slave jumpering system, as all IDE controller cards support that.
Whatever that's supposed to mean.
That's supposed to mean that many IDE controller cards do not support ATAPI
devices, like an optical drive, and are meant for IDE hard disks, as
mentioned in a previous post. Seems like Mr. or Ms. Rienstra just prefers
to contribute bitterness to the newsgroup, and doesn't actually want to
help.
-Russell
http://tastycomputers.com
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RussellS
-----------------------------------------------------------------------Seems like Mr. or Ms. Rienstra just prefers
to contribute bitterness to the newsgroup, and doesn't actually want to
help.
-Russell
http://tastycomputers.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=Folkert+Rienstra+troll
Wow, almost 1,100 relevant hits. Seems like F.R. has made a career out of
belittling others in public newsgroups and sponsored forums. I'd suggest
others add Folkert to their kill file, as I've just done.
-Russell
http://tastycomputers.com
S
Sam
: > People use to call me Al (Bundy) at one time....
:
: A Jap would at least have the decency to disembowel
: itself, dont make a mess of the carpet |-)
Or get Hanibal Lector to do it for me.....
:
: >> Thats what XP does with a bad cable, turns DMA off for the safety
of your data.
:
: >> You have to manually delete the controller in the Device Manager
: >> and let XP install it again to get the DMA back again.
: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817472/
:
: > Done that, it didnt work.
:
: Then its still using the bad cable.
ANOTHER bad cable? That's quite rare, isn't it?
:
: >>> Yeah, I think so. For speed I'll use the Laptop..but that's a
joke.
: >>> The drive is only 4200 rpms but the CPU is 2.8. ghz. I guess I
: >>> could upgrade to a 5400 or 7200 rpm but that probably run very
hot inside.
:
: >> And it still wont be that fast.
:
: > Really? Even with a 7200 rpm?
:
: Yeah, laptop drives dont have enough sectors per track to
: give anything like the performance of a 3.5" 7200 rpm drive.
I am now glad I never bought one then....
:
: A Jap would at least have the decency to disembowel
: itself, dont make a mess of the carpet |-)
Or get Hanibal Lector to do it for me.....
:
: >> Thats what XP does with a bad cable, turns DMA off for the safety
of your data.
:
: >> You have to manually delete the controller in the Device Manager
: >> and let XP install it again to get the DMA back again.
: >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/817472/
:
: > Done that, it didnt work.
:
: Then its still using the bad cable.
ANOTHER bad cable? That's quite rare, isn't it?
:
: >>> Yeah, I think so. For speed I'll use the Laptop..but that's a
joke.
: >>> The drive is only 4200 rpms but the CPU is 2.8. ghz. I guess I
: >>> could upgrade to a 5400 or 7200 rpm but that probably run very
hot inside.
:
: >> And it still wont be that fast.
:
: > Really? Even with a 7200 rpm?
:
: Yeah, laptop drives dont have enough sectors per track to
: give anything like the performance of a 3.5" 7200 rpm drive.
I am now glad I never bought one then....
S
Sam
:
: > I thought you can't do that sort of thing with a PC board?
:
: Its not trivial to do, but it is possible.
:
: > Is it expensive to do so?
:
: The hard part is finding someone who is capable of doing it.
that's what i was afraid of... I couldnt even find the ide connector
online to see how much they cost, I assumed most people just dump their
board when something like this happens.
: > I thought you can't do that sort of thing with a PC board?
:
: Its not trivial to do, but it is possible.
:
: > Is it expensive to do so?
:
: The hard part is finding someone who is capable of doing it.
that's what i was afraid of... I couldnt even find the ide connector
online to see how much they cost, I assumed most people just dump their
board when something like this happens.
S
Sam
: > Now that is the best news I heard in a long time....
: > think of all the insurance money I'll get. Ahhhhh.....if only.....
:
: Yeah, thats what I thought when I headed out for a longish trip away.
:
: My insurance is 'new for old forever' which basically means that
: I get a complete set of brand new toys regardless of how old
: they are if the house burns down or it gets looted by druggys etc.
:
: I was a bit tempted to put a sign on the door saying that I would
: be away for weeks, but decided that it would be just my luck that
: one of the neighbours might tell the insurance company about the
: the sign and they might well tell me that I could take a long run
: off a short pier as far as my insurance claim was concerned.
Yeah, that's typical....the good people are the one's that always get
screwed or caught if they even remotely try to do something not "right".
Take for example speeding. If I speed, I am always the one to have a
cop around the corner and nail me. When I ask the cop, "how come you
didn't get the guy behind or next to me who was also speeding?" The
response I got one time was "when you go fishing, you don't expect to
catch every fish".
: > think of all the insurance money I'll get. Ahhhhh.....if only.....
:
: Yeah, thats what I thought when I headed out for a longish trip away.
:
: My insurance is 'new for old forever' which basically means that
: I get a complete set of brand new toys regardless of how old
: they are if the house burns down or it gets looted by druggys etc.
:
: I was a bit tempted to put a sign on the door saying that I would
: be away for weeks, but decided that it would be just my luck that
: one of the neighbours might tell the insurance company about the
: the sign and they might well tell me that I could take a long run
: off a short pier as far as my insurance claim was concerned.
Yeah, that's typical....the good people are the one's that always get
screwed or caught if they even remotely try to do something not "right".
Take for example speeding. If I speed, I am always the one to have a
cop around the corner and nail me. When I ask the cop, "how come you
didn't get the guy behind or next to me who was also speeding?" The
response I got one time was "when you go fishing, you don't expect to
catch every fish".
S
Sam
: > Yes, but that's the same as with my Abit, Award Bios but
: > of course the two are different. The ECS uses a Phoenix.
:
: Did you actually install XP on a drive on the Promise in the Abit ?
Yup...no problems at all, no hickups or anything. I didnt even have to
press F6 to identify the drivers. Everything was fantastic.
: > And autostreamer will convert an ISO to a readible CD along with the
SP?
:
: Yes, it effectively installs the SP onto the install CD and
: produces a new CD that has the SP installed on the CD.
Ok, good to know...I saw no mention of ISO in the pics and the online
instructions
:
: >>>> I'd run a diagnostic on the drive with it attached to the Promise
card to
: >>>>> check if the drive is working fine on the Promise card and if it
: >>>>> isnt, according to the diagnostic, fix that problem before going
: >>>>> any further.
:
: >>> I dont recall seeing this option anywhere...
:
: >> Yeah, its not an option, you need to download the diag
: >> for the hard drive from the hard drive manufacturer's web
: >> site or run it online with some hard drive manufacturers.
:
: > Done that...the Powermax floppy didnt recognize my
: > controller or the drive while my maxtor was attached to it.
:
: Try one of the other decent diags like Hitachi's Drive Fitness Test
: or Seagate's. Some do a better job of finding the drive on a card
: instead of on the motherboard ports
You mean DFT? Yup, tried that that too. I used this before to quiet
down my Maxtor cuz it was annoying accessing info. Works well, but didnt
help me this time.
: > I dont like that a 2.2 CPU costing as much as P4 3.4
w/hyperthreading.
: > I'll really notice the diffence in speed when doing video rendering.
:
: No you wont
Really? Convince me and I may just take the plunge, after I buy a new
tv set for Xmas, probably Plasma.
: > Maybe I should look at Gigabyte. I read where others have
: > regretted getting the Asus P5W DH Deluxe (Intel 975x chipset).
:
: I dont like Gigabytes much myself, the ship too early and you
: end up with lots of revisions of the motherboard and bios.
Ok good, narrowing down the choices. Which ones do you like? Asus,
Abit, MSI?
:
: I've got a sufficiently warped sense of humor that I might even piss
myself laughing |-)
:
: I did when the Roman Catholic Church spent weeks deciding on a new
Pope,
: all that silly stuff about black and white smoke etc, and then once
they had
: finally decided on one silly senile old fart, the bugger went and died
on them
: within days, and they had to thru the entire rigmarole all over again.
Fortunately
: the catholic who told me about it at work one evening could see the
joke too |-)
That's too funny...I remember that Pope thing way back when. Of course,
I was young then and into Sci-Fi and conspiracy theories. I wish I
could laugh that hard to piss myself or come close to it . But, with my
kind of luck, it's pretty hard to laugh sometimes.
: > of course the two are different. The ECS uses a Phoenix.
:
: Did you actually install XP on a drive on the Promise in the Abit ?
Yup...no problems at all, no hickups or anything. I didnt even have to
press F6 to identify the drivers. Everything was fantastic.
: > And autostreamer will convert an ISO to a readible CD along with the
SP?
:
: Yes, it effectively installs the SP onto the install CD and
: produces a new CD that has the SP installed on the CD.
Ok, good to know...I saw no mention of ISO in the pics and the online
instructions
:
: >>>> I'd run a diagnostic on the drive with it attached to the Promise
card to
: >>>>> check if the drive is working fine on the Promise card and if it
: >>>>> isnt, according to the diagnostic, fix that problem before going
: >>>>> any further.
:
: >>> I dont recall seeing this option anywhere...
:
: >> Yeah, its not an option, you need to download the diag
: >> for the hard drive from the hard drive manufacturer's web
: >> site or run it online with some hard drive manufacturers.
:
: > Done that...the Powermax floppy didnt recognize my
: > controller or the drive while my maxtor was attached to it.
:
: Try one of the other decent diags like Hitachi's Drive Fitness Test
: or Seagate's. Some do a better job of finding the drive on a card
: instead of on the motherboard ports
You mean DFT? Yup, tried that that too. I used this before to quiet
down my Maxtor cuz it was annoying accessing info. Works well, but didnt
help me this time.
: > I dont like that a 2.2 CPU costing as much as P4 3.4
w/hyperthreading.
: > I'll really notice the diffence in speed when doing video rendering.
:
: No you wont
Really? Convince me and I may just take the plunge, after I buy a new
tv set for Xmas, probably Plasma.
: > Maybe I should look at Gigabyte. I read where others have
: > regretted getting the Asus P5W DH Deluxe (Intel 975x chipset).
:
: I dont like Gigabytes much myself, the ship too early and you
: end up with lots of revisions of the motherboard and bios.
Ok good, narrowing down the choices. Which ones do you like? Asus,
Abit, MSI?
:
: I've got a sufficiently warped sense of humor that I might even piss
myself laughing |-)
:
: I did when the Roman Catholic Church spent weeks deciding on a new
Pope,
: all that silly stuff about black and white smoke etc, and then once
they had
: finally decided on one silly senile old fart, the bugger went and died
on them
: within days, and they had to thru the entire rigmarole all over again.
Fortunately
: the catholic who told me about it at work one evening could see the
joke too |-)
That's too funny...I remember that Pope thing way back when. Of course,
I was young then and into Sci-Fi and conspiracy theories. I wish I
could laugh that hard to piss myself or come close to it . But, with my
kind of luck, it's pretty hard to laugh sometimes.
A
Arno Wagner
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage RussellS said:Seems like Mr. or Ms. Rienstra just prefers
to contribute bitterness to the newsgroup, and doesn't actually want to
help.
-Russell
http://tastycomputers.com
Exactly. Has been doing that for a long time.
Recently he has started to fake posting by others, it seems
in an attempt to ignite a flame-war. He also frequently
posts under different names, in a pathetic attempt to be
listened to. Usually he is identified pretty fast.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=Folkert+Rienstra+troll
Wow, almost 1,100 relevant hits. Seems like F.R. has made a career out of
belittling others in public newsgroups and sponsored forums. I'd suggest
others add Folkert to their kill file, as I've just done.
Already done....
Arno
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Sam
:: >>> the Promise may not be compatible with the board.
:
: >> No evidence of that yet.
Possible....it's a safe blanket answer.
:
: >>> They also wrote to try to get the IDE1 repaired. Is that
possible?
:
: >> Yes.
I just got an RMA request form to complete. Didnt they know that the
board is a few years old? They have a disclaimer saying that the board
warranty is only a year. I thought [good MBs] had a longer warranty?
:
: >> No evidence of that yet.
Possible....it's a safe blanket answer.
:
: >>> They also wrote to try to get the IDE1 repaired. Is that
possible?
:
: >> Yes.
I just got an RMA request form to complete. Didnt they know that the
board is a few years old? They have a disclaimer saying that the board
warranty is only a year. I thought [good MBs] had a longer warranty?
S
Sam
:
: and that would probly cost more than a new MB! its not 1965 anymore
: these days we junk and buy a new one.
It isnt as simple as unsoldering the socket and soldering a new
connector?
: and that would probly cost more than a new MB! its not 1965 anymore
: these days we junk and buy a new one.
It isnt as simple as unsoldering the socket and soldering a new
connector?
R
Rod Speed
Yup...no problems at all, no hickups or anything. I didnt even
have to press F6 to identify the drivers. Everything was fantastic.
Ok, good to know...I saw no mention of ISO in the pics and the online instructions
You mean DFT?
There's two quite different utes with those initials,
you appear to be talking about the Feature Tool.
Yup, tried that that too. I used this before to quiet
down my Maxtor cuz it was annoying accessing info.
Thats Feature Tool, different animal entirely, Murph.
Works well, but didnt help me this time.
Really? Convince me and I may just take the plunge,
after I buy a new tv set for Xmas, probably Plasma.
Go and have a look at some benchmarks.
Ok good, narrowing down the choices. Which ones do you like? Asus, Abit, MSI?
I prefer Asus myself.
That's too funny...I remember that Pope thing way back when.
Of course, I was young then and into Sci-Fi and conspiracy
theories. I wish I could laugh that hard to piss myself or come close
to it . But, with my kind of luck, it's pretty hard to laugh sometimes.
You could just cut to the chase and top yourself, after getting suitably pissed |-)
R
Rod Speed
Or get Hanibal Lector to do it for me.....
Too messy. With your luck you'd end up with that
fella that cut people up and put them in his freezer.
ANOTHER bad cable? That's quite rare, isn't it?
Not if you reef that cable off the drive by yanking on the ribbon itself.
R
Rod Speed
Sam said:Possible....it's a safe blanket answer.
I just got an RMA request form to complete. Didnt they know that the
board is a few years old? They have a disclaimer saying that the
board warranty is only a year. I thought [good MBs] had a longer
warranty?
Havent noticed any, but then I havent need to do an RMA either.
R
Rod Speed
It isnt as simple as unsoldering the socket and soldering a new connector?
Its not trivial to get a 40 pin connector off. You cant even easily cut all
the legs off and pull each pin out one by one like you can with a 40 pin ic.
You can do the equivalent tho,
R
Rod Speed
that's what i was afraid of... I couldnt even find the
ide connector online to see how much they cost,
They cost peanuts, thats not the problem.
I assumed most people just dump their
board when something like this happens.
Yep.
X
x5
:
: > I thought you can't do that sort of thing with a PC board?
:
: Its not trivial to do, but it is possible.
:
: > Is it expensive to do so?
:
: The hard part is finding someone who is capable of doing it.
that's what i was afraid of... I couldnt even find the ide connector
online to see how much they cost, I assumed most people just dump their
board when something like this happens.
1 IDE left is better than nothing. but if u need another IDE buy an
IDE controller card.
or for a cheap fix maybe an old ISA board with IDE/FLOPPY/Serial...
from a 486 may do the job. I did to replace a non working serial
port one pentium.
of course u wont get UDMA and awsome speed transfert.
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Sam
:
: > ANOTHER bad cable? That's quite rare, isn't it?
: Not if you reef that cable off the drive by yanking on the ribbon
itself.
NOPE, I have NEVER done that.
: > ANOTHER bad cable? That's quite rare, isn't it?
: Not if you reef that cable off the drive by yanking on the ribbon
itself.
NOPE, I have NEVER done that.
S
Sam
: > I just got an RMA request form to complete. Didnt they know that
the
: > board is a few years old? They have a disclaimer saying that the
: > board warranty is only a year. I thought [good MBs] had a longer
: > warranty?
:
: Havent noticed any, but then I havent need to do an RMA either.
:
Now they come back and tell me that the MB is too old to repair after i
tell them the MB is about 2.5 years old. Hell, I wrote the model and
revision number to them initially, I guess they weren't paying
attention.
the
: > board is a few years old? They have a disclaimer saying that the
: > board warranty is only a year. I thought [good MBs] had a longer
: > warranty?
:
: Havent noticed any, but then I havent need to do an RMA either.
:
Now they come back and tell me that the MB is too old to repair after i
tell them the MB is about 2.5 years old. Hell, I wrote the model and
revision number to them initially, I guess they weren't paying
attention.