"aero" is a bunch of hot air....

[Alias]

I said "more secure". So far no computer system can really be declared
wrapped up and done "secure" as they all have vulnerabilites to some
extent.

I can see you know nothing about Linux and Macs.

So I stand by what I said: Windows Vista is more secure than
Windows XP.

Saucy Lemon

And I stand by what I said: the jury is still out on that one. What do
you mean by secure, being secure that if you change hardware, you will
go through Vista's Genuine Hell? Being secure that with this OS, like
XP, you will be asked to prove you are not a thief every time you
reinstall it? Or are you just secure that most people will buy it
because they don't know any better? Or all of the above?

Alias

 

[jim]

Vista is not more secure than XP because it will become a bigger target.

Why? Hackers love challenges... lol

so as you can see even if vista "tried" to be more secure, having XP will be
MORE
secure than vista because it will no longer be the main target.

Understand?

 

[Saucy Lemon]

It's selling like hotcakes down at Best Buy. And it will be on every new PC
computer for years hereafter. Don't worry or anything. Be happy as it is way
too much effort to argue with the success of a product that, for all the
hype, merely gives a computer some instructions to enable you to write and
run programs.

And yes I should get a UPS - thanks.

Saucy Lemon

 

[Saucy Lemon]

Macs suck, is all anyone need know about a Mac. And as far as Linux goes?
The GNU GPL is the tie that binds ...

Saucy Lemon

 

[Alias]

It's selling like hotcakes down at Best Buy.

Well, Best Buy is in the country that voted for Bush so it isn't
surprising that the sheeple line up to buy Vista.

And it will be on every new

PC computer for years hereafter.

Um, in Spain, many stores are offering to build you a computer with
Linux on it but this isn't a country that voted for Bush

Don't worry or anything. Be happy as it

is way too much effort to argue with the success of a product that, for
all the hype, merely gives a computer some instructions to enable you to
write and run programs.

Don't for the you-are-a-thief-until-you-prove-otherwise trip that both
XP and Vista do.

And yes I should get a UPS - thanks.

Saucy Lemon

I need to get one too, no grounds on the wiring in this building.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Macs suck, is all anyone need know about a Mac.

Gosh, what a professional appraisal.

And as far as Linux
goes? The GNU GPL is the tie that binds ...

Saucy Lemon

Can you respond to the other points I made? I like Linux. I especially
like the EASE with which it installs and the fact that one doesn't have
to go through the WPA/WGA/WGA(N) or ISS nonsense that only
inconveniences paying customers and does nothing to stop piracy.

Alias

 

[Nina DiBoy]

no, your hardware just cant handle it. aero and vista in general FLIES
for me. faster than xp ever was. if you cant say the same, you shouldnt
be running vista until you can afford some new hardware

Try actually reading the post before you respond. He's talking about
'classic' not aero.



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Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"Nope. Just CLUELESS CUNTS LIKE YOU too stupid to work it out. Thank
the bittorent brigade."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

 

[Nina DiBoy]

and the problem is that classic is slower than classic on XP.....

another thing vista messed up!

Hi Jim. It's could be Vista, or it could be something else. What are
the specs of the machine you are running it on?

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the bittorent brigade."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot

 

[Saucy Lemon]

INLINE:

Gosh, what a professional appraisal.

But that's all one need know.

Can you respond to the other points I made? I like Linux.

I'm terribly sorry. Spain is a poor country. Learning to pretend to like
junk such as Linux must be a strategy one develops to get by. When I was
there - quite a few years ago, they didn't let us out of the hotel at night
as so many theives were roaming about who'd mug ya.

I especially like the EASE with which it installs and the fact that one
doesn't have

An OS that misses more than half one's hardware probably does go on easily.
It's after it's on - when one finds the printer doesn't do anything and
there's no Linux driver ever written for it - that when things get
difficult. Having to fire up a compiler and asking/begging/demanding the
printer manufacturer for the specs just to print a text file is hardly what
one can call ease of use. And when you've done programming the driver,
you've probably had to make use of GPL'd components so now you are bound up
tighter than a drum and can't sell your software for profit.

to go through the WPA/WGA/WGA(N) or ISS nonsense that only

They have a right - and even probably the social responsibility - to attempt
to protect their products from piracy, at least to some extent.

inconveniences paying customers and does nothing to stop piracy.

Alias

I heard differently, that Vista is catching 'em already.

Saucy Lemon

 

[Mike]

Translation: Vista is only for the rich folks.

Alias

Translation: Alias is bitter because he can't afford a video card
released in the last 2 years.

I bought a used ATI AIW X800 XT with 256 megs RAM on eBay for $150
including shipping - 6 months ago! New ones at the time were going for
$200 plus shipping. Plain X800 XTs were going for much less of course,
but I needed an AIW for it's video capture stuff.

Vista (and OS X) flies on this box - 3 GHZ P4 with 2 GB ram. This is
"state of the art" about 3 years ago.

MB, CPU, RAM, video card cost: around $550.

Watching Alias whine about how "you have to be rich to run Vista":
priceless.

Mike

 

[Mike]

Um, in Spain, many stores are offering to build you a computer with
Linux on it but this isn't a country that voted for Bush

That's right - Spain is the country full of pansies who immediately
voted for the government the terrorists wanted after your little train
station explosion.

Yeah, that's where *I* want to live!

Mike

 

[Alias]

Translation: Alias is bitter because he can't afford a video card
released in the last 2 years.

I have two 256MB video cards and one 128 so you were saying?

I bought a used ATI AIW X800 XT with 256 megs RAM on eBay for $150
including shipping - 6 months ago! New ones at the time were going for
$200 plus shipping. Plain X800 XTs were going for much less of course,
but I needed an AIW for it's video capture stuff.

Bully for you. Bragging again?

Vista (and OS X) flies on this box - 3 GHZ P4 with 2 GB ram. This is
"state of the art" about 3 years ago.

MB, CPU, RAM, video card cost: around $550.

Watching Alias whine about how "you have to be rich to run Vista":
priceless.

Mike

Just because you and I can afford Vista doesn't mean everyone can.

Alias

 

[Alias]

That's right - Spain is the country full of pansies who immediately
voted for the government the terrorists wanted after your little train
station explosion.

We voted for a government that wasn't doing Bush's bidding and the new
government did what the people wanted them to do: get out of Iraq. The
terrorists had nothing to do with it, nor did the attack.

Yeah, that's where *I* want to live!

Mike

You probably think the illegal war in Iraq is a good thing.

Alias

 

[Alias]

INLINE:





But that's all one need know.

No, if you're going to criticize something, you should be prepared to
back it up with more than "it sucks".

I'm terribly sorry. Spain is a poor country.

Actually, it isn't a poor country and our deficit is MUCH less than the
USA's. Have to checked out how much the wimpy dollar is worth vs. the
euro and the pound?

Learning to pretend to like

junk such as Linux must be a strategy one develops to get by. When I was
there - quite a few years ago, they didn't let us out of the hotel at
night as so many theives were roaming about who'd mug ya.

LOL! The USA has a MUCH higher crime rate than Spain in particular and
Europe in general. It also has the draconian medieval death penalty.

An OS that misses more than half one's hardware probably does go on
easily. It's after it's on - when one finds the printer doesn't do
anything and there's no Linux driver ever written for it - that when
things get difficult. Having to fire up a compiler and
asking/begging/demanding the printer manufacturer for the specs just to
print a text file is hardly what one can call ease of use. And when
you've done programming the driver, you've probably had to make use of
GPL'd components so now you are bound up tighter than a drum and can't
sell your software for profit.

I haven't had those kinds of problems and I'm a Linux newbie.

They have a right - and even probably the social responsibility - to
attempt to protect their products from piracy, at least to some extent.

It doesn't stop piracy one iota. You've been conned.

I heard differently, that Vista is catching 'em already.

Saucy Lemon

You heard wrong. Cracked copies of Windows do not need to be activated
or genuined and you can't provide one source where MS has caught one
pirate using WPA/WGA/WGA(N) or ISS. Not one. You can, however, find
hundreds of people on this news group, the xp general newsgroup and
other forums who were inconvenienced by having to prove that one bought
something one knows one bought. Guilty until proven innocent is against
the US constitution but you obviously care more about MS' rights to
violate the US constitution than the rights of the consumer.

Alias

 

[Mike]

We voted for a government that wasn't doing Bush's bidding and the new
government did what the people wanted them to do: get out of Iraq. The
terrorists had nothing to do with it, nor did the attack.

Keep telling yourself that.

You probably think the illegal war in Iraq is a good thing.

What's "illegal" about it? Bush asked Congress, Congress approved it.
That some nitwit in Spain doesn't like it doesn't make it "illegal".

Mike

 

[Mike]

Translation: Alias is bitter because he can't afford a video card
released in the last 2 years.

I have two 256MB video cards and one 128 so you were saying?[/QUOTE]

So what are you whining about then?

Mike

 

[Saucy Lemon]

INLINE:



Yes, Alias is bitter bitter bitter and has a real skunner against Microsoft
and the USA (which he blames for Mexico's independance).

I have two 256MB video cards and one 128 so you were saying?

He's talking about what you've legitimately bought, not what you've ripped
off the tourists.

Bully for you. Bragging again?

No, he's just showing you up.

Just because you and I can afford Vista doesn't mean everyone can.

Alias

You live in Spain, Alias, you can't afford Vista.

Saucy Lemon

 

[Alias]

I have two 256MB video cards and one 128 so you were saying?

So what are you whining about then?

Mike[/QUOTE]

I have never whined in my life so I don't know to what you are referring.

Alias

 

[Alias]

INLINE:




Yes, Alias is bitter bitter bitter and has a real skunner against
Microsoft

Actually, I only have a "real skunner" against some of their practices.
I use their software every day.

and the USA (which he blames for Mexico's independance).

Huh? I used to live in Mexico and they don't hate Spain at all. The USA,
however, is a much different story.

He's talking about what you've legitimately bought, not what you've
ripped off the tourists.

Tourists run round with video cards? Or you, as a tourist, run round
with video cards in your hands? Do you even know how ridiculous your
accusation is?

No, he's just showing you up.

No, he's bragging.

You live in Spain, Alias, you can't afford Vista.

Saucy Lemon

Your blatant prejudice towards another country is noted. Is it fun being
a bigot, Saucy? I bet you call French Fries, Freedom Fries, doncha?

Alias

 

[Alias]

Keep telling yourself that.

It's the facts, ma'am.

What's "illegal" about it? Bush asked Congress, Congress approved it.
That some nitwit in Spain doesn't like it doesn't make it "illegal".

Mike

Are you for real? No WMD. No threat to the USA. Hundreds of thousands of
innocent Iraqi civilians murdered. Thousands of Americans killed. The
country is about to totally self destruct and you think that's a good
thing? If the President of the United States purposely lies to the
congress to con them into supporting a war, that is, my friend, ILLEGAL.

Alias