XP system restore and Go Back

[Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)]

Apparently you don't know GoBack!

If you DON"T disable system restore, prior to installing GoBack, the
tremendously huge system restore folder is backed up into the GoBack image,
making it pretty damn useless for anything else. The maximum size of the
GoBack information is 4 gig (doesn't matter what partition format is being
used). System restore information can easily approach that amount.

Give advice when you know, not when you think. Or at least prequallify your
statement with the phrase "I believe".


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Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

 

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Jim Marshall wrote: ....
I'd stick with system restore. Why do you wish to install something that
could cause potential problems?

He doesn't; that's why he posted here!

 

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Have you got any details about why GoBack is not compatible with WinXP,
please?

I was considering using GoBack on WinXP because it deals with everything,
not just system files. I used GoBack for some years with Win95, and found it
useful, enabling it only when I was doing something critical.

For what it is worth, you will see the Symantec web site says "GoBack is
completely compatible with Windows Me\XP System Restore".

And it is. Runs prefectly here. I think what we may have
is a person who tried to use an old GoBack on XP, before the
prog was made compliant. I love having both Restore and
GoBack available - good options.
Only downside I can imagine would be if you are low on hd
space.

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"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User)"

You only need to be sure you have a compatible version of Go Back, however,
as I stated in this thread, if you are going to use Go Back, you need to
turn off System Restore.

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/

Not true in my experience. They live quite well together,
at least for the past year.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

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To carry on in the vein of this thread I would like to point out that
System Restore in XP under most circumstances is a waste of system
resources and space. Restore is at best completely unreliable and is
affected by everything from defragging to anti-virus scans.

This is complete nonsense. System Restore is a valuable tool that
has several times enabled me to quickly and easily fix problems.

No, it's not perfect. But it's foolhardy to spurn a valuable tool
just because it could be better than it is.

Anyone
using System Restore for a dependable backup is in for a rude
awakening.

To even suggest that System Restore *could* be used as a backup
demonstrates that you have no idea what it is. It is *not* a
backup tool and is not meant to be a backup tool. The most
important thing that backup tools backup is your data, and System
Restore does nothing for data. What it does is for the system
only.

Nobody would suggest that System restore be used as any kind of
substitute for backup. It's an additional tool that supplements
your regular backup program.

NT Backup is the ony reliable backup in XP

Delete the word "reliable" from that sentence. It's the *only*
backup in XP.

and can be
counted on to be unaffected by any external program.

Although NTBackup is the program that comes with XP, it's
probably the poorest backup tool available. There are many other
third-party tools available that are much better tools.

Once you have a
backup and if you decide to schedule a daily backup using the append
feature you will always have a dependable restore option especially
if the backup of your files and programs is made to a CD. So in short
Restore should be turned off

Nonsense. Depending on what problems you experience, it may or
not help you, but it's foolhardy to turn off a feature that may
help you.

and I hope in future releases of an MS
OS removed,

I certainly hope not.

 

[Unknown]

Absolute garbage.

Turn off system restore and reboot "prior" to installing GoBack. You don't
need, or want, them both. GoBack is the more robust and reliable of the two
utilities.

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Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

 

[Bill Sharpe]

I have found System Restore somewhat unreliable. Occasionally I find
that there the utility cannot restore my system to a previous restore
point.

I have recently installed GoBack, which came with SystemWorks 2004. No
problems at all so far. It appears on my system that the two programs
can co-exist, but it seems unnecessary to have both of them available.

Bill

message No disrespect taken. I've seen the document. I've also seen issues
with
other users. Those issues are by no means universal nor are the issues
I
had. By the same token, neither is your experience. There are simply
too
many configurations and environments across the wide bed of XP users to
make
blanket statement and go on the assumption they do not conflict when
real
world evidence, suggest, at least under some conditions they do
conflict.
Note the qualifier, under some circumstances and conditions.

I cannot pinpoint those but I can tell you what I have seen, the
Symantec
article notwithstanding.

 

[Peter A. Stavrakoglou]

You should disable System Restore if you are going to use Go Back. To do
so, open Control Panel, open System, go to the System Restore tab, place a
check next to "Turn off System Restore on this drive," click apply and ok.

System Restore is essentially "Go Back" lite and only covers system settings
and the system state. "Go Back" can cover everything.

I last used GoBack 3 when Roxio owned the software. IIRC, once GoBack
was successfully installed, it automatically disabled System Restore
for the user prompting the user that it had done so.

 

[Unknown]

Apparently you don't know 'system restore'.

Apparently you don't know GoBack!

If you DON"T disable system restore, prior to installing GoBack, the
tremendously huge system restore folder is backed up into the GoBack image,
making it pretty damn useless for anything else. The maximum size of the
GoBack information is 4 gig (doesn't matter what partition format is being
used). System restore information can easily approach that amount.

Give advice when you know, not when you think. Or at least prequallify your
statement with the phrase "I believe".


--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

 

[Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)]

I seem to recall one of their versions did that as well though that didn't
necessarily mean a user was required to leave it turned off as the
discussion in this thread would indicate.

 

[Peter A. Stavrakoglou]

If I were to use GoBack again, I would probably leave System Restore
disabled. What would be your personal preference?

 

[Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP Windows Shell/User\)]

Not an easy question for me to answer given my own experience which doesn't
necessarily equate to everyone else. Because of my experience with the
product in the past, I would turn off System Restore.

That said, my preference is to use System Restore, not use Go Back and rely
on backups and images for more drastic rollbacks if necessary. I consider
this type of thing a first line of defense and System Restore only covers
the system state and settings. Go Back, depending upon what the user sets
for it to "protect" is more than I want or need.

Had I not had any issues with it myself, my preference would be to use both
unless I could set Go Back to function exactly the same as System Restore as
well as to use it for more robust purposes. In other words, if I could have
the option within Go Back to use it for both purposes, I'd still turn off
System Restore feeling that it was an unnecessary redundancy.

 

[Guest]

I have used both, and GoBack saved my bacon a couple of times when restore would not work. But something has happened and it won't let me do a restore and I can't remove it. I have had system restore disabled for quite some time. It appears I'll have to do a clean boot to remove it.